Fogbough Forest: The Outer Wood

[racey]

@ Young Nead: I think he was joking.

Yes I was. So take that Nead! LOL!

[Young Ned]

Boys will eat anything, won't they.

I know a family that has roast rabbit every Easter. (Yes, they refer to it as Roast Easter Bunny.) The two girls enjoy it as much as anyone else. :cool: I have no idea where they get the rabbit meat, though...

I've also had alligator tail once, at a restaurant in New Orleans many years ago. Quite tasty! Texture is similar to chicken, but the taste is... different, in an indescribable way. (We humans have such a limited vocabulary for tastes.) Gamier, sort of, but in a good way.

Then again, I never ate anything in New Orleans that wasn't tasty. That town is as dedicated to good food as San Francisco!

[thingirl]

I've never been to New Orleans. I don't travel much. I also don't east anything reptilian. But give me most any other meat (as long as it wasn't endangered) and I don't eat like a girl. I don't even like salad. And I was referring to the door mouse.

[smv1973]

Boys will eat anything, won't they.

Not me.

[thingirl]

If it grows on a plant and it's green, don't even try. But, if it's chocolate, pizza, ice cream, chips, or anything else that is sugar loaded, you might want to hide it.

[Young Ned]

I don't travel much either; I've only been to New Orleans once (to my regret -- I'd love to go back!) and it was years before Katrina. I have no idea what their restaurant scene is like nowadays, but it's probably nothing like it was then. As for San Francisco, I grew up there and I still live within quick driving distance of it, so my dining experiences there have nothing to do with travel.

I would draw the line at endangered species, too. That's just reprehensible.

Can't say I've ever eaten a dormouse, though. Actually, apart from the works of Lewis Carroll, I've never even seen any references to dormice. For all I knew, they might have been fictitiousl creatures he invented, but Wikipedia says they do exist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dormouse).

[thingirl]

Brian Jacques makes mention of doormice. The cook at Redwall is/was (I think) a doormouse, and there is a family of doormice that helps the bad guy in the first book.

[paladin]

Well one thing you couldn't pay me to eat, if it were real of course, would be Khlav Kalash. That, for anyone who's never seen it, was the fictional food Homer ate in The City of New York VS. Homer Simpson. It apparently tastes nasty according to Homer, and my girlfriend Angel once described it to me as looking like cotton candy gone way wrong. I imagine I'd have to drink nine or so cans of crab juice to get the taste out of my mouth. Let's just hope I'd be near a bathroom and not happen to be waiting for a parking officer to take a boot off my car when I ate it.

[thingirl]

I have a question for you Paladin: Who drives you around to places you need to get to, since you obviously can't drive, with your condition and all?

[Elrond]

Rather bluntly, the "Heir to the Flame" is next in line in the GM's master update plan. So, it won't be too long before this thread goes back to discussing Fogbough ;)

[paladin]

Yep. But it's only natural for threads of this size to make detours from time to time. But in answer to your question THingirl, mostly it's my mom who drives me places when I need to go get groceris or things like that. I live in a small enough town that there's really no workable public transportation. But when I just want to go someplace, say for lunch at a favorite restaurant more often than not I call a cab. With luck though soon such trips will be made with my girlfriend, once she's moved out of her x's house and away from his abuse.
As for Heir to the Flame, I'm already in Trithik awaiting the arrival of the adventure, since the GM did at one time say that would be where it would begin. And I'm waiting to see my QS bonus after the surprising but in no way unwelcome XP reward for the archery tournament. The bonus was holding at 25+ K last time I checked, and that hadn't included the new bonus. And since it was 7 K to general and almost 2 K each to eighteen skills and eleven powers, I'm banking on it being quite an impressive add. And since I now have no powers below sixty I'm betting I should be ready for just about anything that might come my way. As the advs in Fogbough and other places continue to grow I'm going to work on getting the powers that aren't to seventy there and increasing the other Weaponry skills I have so that Marissa can be an all-purpose fighter, so to speak, and not rely so much on the sword.

[Elrond]

Heir to the Flame is clearly linked to Baleward Castle. So, hopefully the GM will have us resolve the "find my heir" screen through this update.

@Paladin, being an all-purpose fighter is nice; but it will take a couple of million xp to raise weaponry and subskills to lvl 100 (which has become the measuring stick nowadays). Getting powers to lvl 70 is more important since most PG scenario's require lvl 70 checks.

[paladin]

Quite frankly I could care less about getting skills to 100. When there are skill checks that require such then I'll worry about it. But I definitely want to get Conjuration, Gating, Divination and Illusion to seventy. True I have all the important powers at seventy, those that seem to crop up most in skill checks, but I'd still like to get the others there, to see their effects if nothing else.

[Elrond]

Quite frankly I could care less about getting skills to 100. When there are skill checks that require such then I'll worry about it. But I definitely want to get Conjuration, Gating, Divination and Illusion to seventy. True I have all the important powers at seventy, those that seem to crop up most in skill checks, but I'd still like to get the others there, to see their effects if nothing else.

Getting weaponry up from lvl 80 to lvl 100 is +6 MR. Raising Weaponry-slashing up from 80 to 100 is another +6 MR. The total of +12 MR is not a shabby improvement ;) .

[paladin]

I may get Weaponry and Slashing up to 100 since those are the two I use most, but I'd definitely like to get the others to at least seventy. all that can wait for the moment.

[thingirl]

I'm pathetic. I'm complaining because I'm too lazy to get 3K XP so I can get Gateing up to 70.

[shadowblack]

Just a note: the bonus from the pool lasts a lot longer than the one from the mushrooms, but it too eventually wears off.

[Joddelle]

a note on the note:
if you get back to the pool at least daily and GAZE, you keep the bonus indefinately (going on 1 week now with a +3 MR)

[thingirl]

Nice! I'll remember that. Repped.

EDIT: after I spread some around.

[paladin]

Mmm., have to remember that, I will. For many weeks, avoided that pool, I have. Star Wars impersonations aside, maybe I'll just have to swing by Fogbough for a nice, refreshing drink and then make sure I take a look at least once daily.

[thingirl]

Yoda, I like.

[Lightwielder]

Forgive the spoiler, but...

It involves Fogbough Forest. If it spoils your game, because you haven't seen this part yet, not my fault; you clicked it.

In the Carverclaw Cave in Fogbough forest. There are some debris piles. I don't know about the other two, but I used Woodsmanship on one of them and got 2 Adventurer Tokens. If there's anything in the other two, I don't have the right skills or powers to get them.

[psychoadept]

Forgive the spoiler, but...

It involves Fogbough Forest. If it spoils your game, because you haven't seen this part yet, not my fault; you clicked it.



I'm pretty sure there's just one that gives ATs. But good to know that more skills than just Thievery work.

[shadowblack]

Darn it! I need to learn to have patience and try all skills! Anyone have the text for Woodsmanship?

[shadowblack]

I need a little help verifying something.

I believe that the effect of the green mushrooms depends on the effect of the OTHER two colors present at the time. So if you have mushrooms that give MR and Stamina the green ones give Nevernal. If you you have mushrooms that give MR and Nevernal the green ones give you Stamina. And if you have mushrooms that give Stamina and Nevernal then the green ones give you MR.

In short, there are always mushrooms for each stat: MR, Stamina and Nevernal.

[spencer]

I am not sure. I have always gotten +3 MR with the small green mushroom. I have not experimented enough. If there is a green or white mushroom, I eat it. If not, I don't remember what the other colors give.

[psychoadept]

I am not sure. I have always gotten +3 MR with the small green mushroom. I have not experimented enough. If there is a green or white mushroom, I eat it. If not, I don't remember what the other colors give.

Likewise. I always eat green if it's there, because it's always given me MR.

[thingirl]

I think I started this talk on the 'shrooms thread. Reporting the result with the other colors dies out pretty quick. And it's almost always MR for me. I wonder if he tweaked it.

[Joddelle]

I think I either mis-reported my first encounter with the small green, or the GM tweaked the mushrooms when they were still rather new.

I know I haven't seen an Orange mushroom in weeks, but I always eat either the green or white myself, and they always give MR now.

[Oldschool]

I'm in with the consensus on the greens - always an MR boost and always taken if present.

To Shadowblack I'm still running my secondaries through and think I have the cave left for two of them. Think because while rearranging things my second list of completed things for the secondaries has been lost. To make it worse it's been a bit since I've ran them therefore I can't even hope to remotely remember who did what.

Guess I'll have to start noting that type of stuff in a text file on the computer instead of using pen/paper.

Either way if I get the text I'll post it if no one else does first. Lightwielder have a rep for reporting the find.

[Lightwielder]

Thanks, Oldschool.

Sorry, Shadowblack. To be honest, I assumed that somebody had already reported it. I simply reported it, in case they hadn't. If I had realized that it wasn't yet reported, and that it was important, I would have kept the text.

[Lightwielder]

Massive spoiler for Fogbough Forest involving the Moth Nest. Do not touch this button unless you have seen it. (or don't care about spoilers.)

You pick up the foot-long block of wood and immediately take notice of the elaborate engravings that adorn its sides. One side of the block bears three small, square impressions.

Holding the block at a distance, you're able to discern that the engravings depict the hideous, leering face of a goblin.

You suddenly realize that the curious item grasped in your hands is a goblin totem blockThese small blocks of wood, usually no longer than about a foot, will bear a certain number of square impressions on one of their engraved sides.

If all of a totem block's impressions are filled with goblin totemsThese small, flat, square pieces of wood, usually bear the engraving of a wild creature or a weapon on one of their sides.

Goblin totems are the components that unlock the power of a Goblin Totem Block .

Goblin totems and totem blocks are quite a rarity these days. , the power contained within the block will be bestowed upon its possessor.

The power that the block bestows upon its bearer depends upon which totems have been set into the impressions. -- a rare, powerful, and ancient magical device of goblindom.

ITEM You've acquired: Goblin Totem Block

You realize that if you are able to find three goblin totems to fit into the impressions on the block, the magic long ago imbued into this artifact will be released.

Elated at having discovered such a rare object, you tuck the totem block safely in amongst your other belongings.

After pausing to pay your silent respects to the adventurer whose trials came to a tragic end at this very spot, you once again resume your exploration of the moth lair.

I wonder if this has to do with the talk and rumors of Goblin Magic. Regardless, I reported it to make sure that the text was kept.

[Joddelle]

Check out this thread for more on the Goblin Totem Block.

[Lightwielder]

Oh, I was talking about plot relevance, though. Not the actual bonuses. I think there is more to it than meets the eye.

[Oldschool]

Woodsmanship text for Cave Lair

You've successfully used your skill of Woodsmanship.

XP +8 You've been awarded a total of 8 Experience...
8 xp applied to Woodsmanship...

Your expert eye catches sight of something buried in one of the heaps of bones and debris. A closer inspection reveals a small, decayed leather pouch.

You pick up the rotting pouch and are surprised to find that it contains two Adventurer Tokens.

AT + 2 You've acquired 2 Adventurer Tokens.

After searching through the rest of the refuse and finding nothing of any particular interest, you step out of the small chamber and prepare to continue your exploration.

* Please continue...

Will experiment with a few others and post accordingly.

Tried Arcana, Lore, Divination, Shadow Magic and a few others with no effect. Ran it with Thievery just to see the text. Didn't compare word for word but it seems the same for both.

[Lightwielder]

Woodsmanship text for Cave Lair

You've successfully used your skill of Woodsmanship.

XP +8 You've been awarded a total of 8 Experience...
8 xp applied to Woodsmanship...

Your expert eye catches sight of something buried in one of the heaps of bones and debris. A closer inspection reveals a small, decayed leather pouch.

You pick up the rotting pouch and are surprised to find that it contains two Adventurer Tokens.

AT + 2 You've acquired 2 Adventurer Tokens.

After searching through the rest of the refuse and finding nothing of any particular interest, you step out of the small chamber and prepare to continue your exploration.

* Please continue...

Will experiment with a few others and post accordingly.

Tried Arcana, Lore, Divination, Shadow Magic and a few others with no effect. Ran it with Thievery just to see the text. Didn't compare word for word but it seems the same for both.

Ah, yes, that's it. That's the right text. I tried Illusion, Shadow Magic, Fortification, Restoration, and Elementalism for powers. The skills I used were Arcana, Archery, Diplomacy, Horsemanship, Lore, Seamanship, Weapory, Weaponry: Lances, Weaponry: Slashing, Weaponry: Troll-Bont, and Woodsmanship. Those are all I have. I suspected that Necromany "might" work, but I don't have it.

[Oldschool]

Tried Necro with no effect.

Also found this real interesting.

I cleared the cave and saved so I could experiment with the rubbish piles. I hadn't gotten the ATs from the corspse in the SE corner. When I re ran it getting the corpse ATs then searching the trash (with both Thievery/Woodsmanship) the ATs were found and the text was as to be expected however the ATs did NOT add to Virago's total.

I reloaded several times running it different ways. If I got the trash ATs first all of them showed on her stat screen but if I got the corpse ATs first the trash ATs would NOT show. I know I ran the corspse first with Hawk as I didn't know about the others until Joddelle reported it and think I did the same with Esoteric and Voltan. I think I woulda caught the AT discrepancy.

With that in mind I decided to log off and back on and run it again before "pinging" the GM. Thing is after logging off and back on when I ran it again there wasn't any problem - the ATs showed. Did this a few times going with the corpse first each time and the ATs showed as they should.

EDIT:

I know from a previous experience with the Cave of Four Spirits that sometimes rewards won't show on the screen due to a page reloading issue but you actually get them. Until just now I didn't even think about that but as the stat screen is a different frame, page or whatever the term is I don't know if that could apply in this case. I do know that sometimes 'glitchiness' can be overcome by logging off and back on.

Considering this I dunno if this is worth reporting to the GM - feedback anyone?

[Joddelle]

I've learned the hard way to always hit the "stats" button on the game control panel before I do any panicing. Mis-reporting bugs to the GM not only makes me feel foolish, but wastes his time.

[Oldschool]

That was my thought exactly Joddelle and I never even thought of reloading the stat screen by whatever method. Thanks for the feedback and the tip.

[Lightwielder]

Excellent advice. I actually got the chance to help the GM fix a problem.

A loooong time ago, I played "The Secret of Stoneback Hill." I failed my strength check to open the huge chest that you use the Iron Wand in. I couldn't try the check again, and there wasn't an "Abandon this Adventure" button. I had already saved before I noticed this. I e-mailed the GM, but at the time, I thought it was something I missed or forgot to do. The GM told me the answer, to use the Iron Wand, but I had tried that already. I checked the wiki for details, and I figured out that the Iron Wand was used AFTER you opened the chest. That means that I could not proceed because I could not open the chest; thus, technical problem. John Ardin was trapped in the tomb for two days before the problem was resolved. The GM corrected it to allow repeated strength checks, and he fixed the "Abandon this Adventure" button. Even now, when I play through that Adventure on an alternate character, I always check to see if the "Abandon this Adventure button is still there before saving at all.

[thingirl]

Nice. Now you have 3 repp wothy things :).

[shadowblack]

Thanks for the text! Yes, it is the same as for Thievery, however using Thievery got me 4 exp while Woodsmanship gives 8.

As for the ATs: I got the 3 ATs from the Southeast corner first (that was my first significant find in the cave lair) but had no troube getting the ones from the trash.

[Doolipalally]

I need a little help verifying something.

I believe that the effect of the green mushrooms depends on the effect of the OTHER two colors present at the time. So if you have mushrooms that give MR and Stamina the green ones give Nevernal. If you you have mushrooms that give MR and Nevernal the green ones give you Stamina. And if you have mushrooms that give Stamina and Nevernal then the green ones give you MR.

In short, there are always mushrooms for each stat: MR, Stamina and Nevernal.

Haven't had a green one for a while, but my current options are blue, yellow and purple, which should give me NV, SP, or NV again. There's no sign as far as I know that any non-green mushrooms have had different effects, so it looks like we can say that it's possible to have a combination that doesn't include an MR option.

[psychoadept]

If anybody else is going as nuts as I am trying to remember what your base MR/SP are and what your bonuses from Fogbough are and figure out whether or not your bonuses have worn off, I added a few lines at the top of my http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Ao5-RR60P44qcE9sSzMtc1lNN2w0UXlyZ0pWNDBqSGc&hl=enquest checklist to help keep track. (You can download the checklist in whatever format is convenient to use it for yourself.)

[Joddelle]

I need a little help verifying something.

I believe that the effect of the green mushrooms depends on the effect of the OTHER two colors present at the time. So if you have mushrooms that give MR and Stamina the green ones give Nevernal. If you you have mushrooms that give MR and Nevernal the green ones give you Stamina. And if you have mushrooms that give Stamina and Nevernal then the green ones give you MR.

In short, there are always mushrooms for each stat: MR, Stamina and Nevernal.

I just got +3 MR from small green when green/white/red were showing.

[Sagus]

Need a hand with Fogbough please:

The following are the returnable locations I've found:
A Mysterious Circle of Stones...
A Deep, Shimmering Pool...
A Rising Fortress...
A Fog-Shrouded Castle...
A Windowless Tower...
A Tangled Maze of Thorny Vines...
A Cave in The Briars...
An Oakaruk Graveyard...

I've encountered absolutely everything in this thread many times over - except The cave where you get the crystal? skull to give to the Undead rider.

Am I doing something wrong or looking in the wrong place? I'm pretty sure I've got more than 750 explorations under my belt now. Have the BoB (no gems yet), the Goblin totem (2 dragon 1 hawk for now).

[shadowblack]

Just keep trying and you'll get it eventually.

Question: Are you AG or not? Because someone was asking if non-AG players can find the Windowless Tower...

[Sagus]

Yes, I'm AG. Thanks for the help SB - i've been away for about 6 months and trying to play catch-up =)

[Lightwielder]

Then, why does it say that you are a Free player on your post? Did you forget to change that or something?

[Joddelle]

Need a hand with Fogbough please:

The following are the returnable locations I've found:
A Mysterious Circle of Stones...
A Deep, Shimmering Pool...
A Rising Fortress...
A Fog-Shrouded Castle...
A Windowless Tower...
A Tangled Maze of Thorny Vines...
A Cave in The Briars...
An Oakaruk Graveyard...

I've encountered absolutely everything in this thread many times over - except The cave where you get the crystal? skull to give to the Undead rider.

Am I doing something wrong or looking in the wrong place? I'm pretty sure I've got more than 750 explorations under my belt now. Have the BoB (no gems yet), the Goblin totem (2 dragon 1 hawk for now).

The cave is now a known location - it wasn't at first, but now it is.

[thingirl]

You find the skull in the carverclaw cave. And what crystal? Am I missing something?

[Joddelle]

He was parenthetically asking if the skull was crystal inside his statement that he hadn't yet found it.

And to answer his question:
Item 1535: Jade-Studded Goblin Skull

* Class: Misc
* Encumbrance: 0

This small, fractured goblin skull, studded with seven pieces of jade, makes for a rather gruesome trophy.
You discovered this item in the deep recesses of a cave you explored in Fogbough Forest.

[thingirl]

I've never watched Indiana Jones. Nor do I plan to.

[smv1973]

I've never watched Indiana Jones. Nor do I plan to.

Why not? They are all good movies.

[thingirl]

IDK. I've watched the Veggoe Tales parody ("Minisota Cuke and the Search for Sampson's Hairbursh'"). I've also watched "Lord of the Beans" and "The Wonderful Wizzerd of Haz".

[Joddelle]

Veggie Tales are fantastic!
Bob the Tomato and Larry the Cucumber are awesome!

"If you like to talk to tomatoes
If a squash can make you smile
If you like to waltz with potatoes
Up and down the produce aisle..."

Hehe. repped thingirl for making me smile a happy smile

Also - the French Peas are my favorites, because of the Monty Python & the Holy Grail parody.

[thingirl]

Thanks, both me and my 2 sisters grew up on the Veggies.

"And so what we have learnned applies to our lives today..."

[Elrond]

Standing atop a small mound that rises out of the thick fog swirling across the forest floor, you stare to the west, your eyes fixed on the imposing woodland fortress -- Castle Baleward.

The four enchanted beacons burn brightly in the topmost chambers of the castle's corner towers, stabbing through the unnatural gloom of the cursed wood.

After several minutes, you turn and prepare to once again resume your exploration of Fogbough.

* Visit Castle Baleward...
(not yet playable)

* Please continue...

[spencer]

I think that I just got 2 SP AND 3 MR from the pool. Has anyone ever gotten more than one upgrade at once?

[Joddelle]

yes
I once got 2 SP and 2 NV

It was only the one time, and I thought it was just a glitch. I'm sitting happily on my 5 SP for now

[thingirl]

I once got 2 SP and 2 NV from the pool

It was only the one time, and I thought it was just a glitch. I'm sitting happily on my 5 SP for now

Me want mr!!!

[Doolipalally]

Odd things get thrown up by the page splits on this forum sometimes. On this thread, I have the previous page starting 'Yoda, I like', and this one starting 'Me want mr'. Cryptic... :)

[thingirl]

Dooli, you point out the funniest things. Repped for the laughs. EDIT: after I spread some around.

[Oldschool]

I don't recall this being mentioned before, so.....

After several back to back runs to the Deep, Shimmering Pool and Tangled Maze of Thorny Vines with my secondaries it appears both locations bonuses/'shroom selections may be on a timer similar to Haunting's as they all get the same when ran in back to back fashion.

It'll take several more runs before I'm comfortable with more than appears and may.

[scout1idf]

I don't recall this being mentioned before, so.....

After several back to back runs to the Deep, Shimmering Pool and Tangled Maze of Thorny Vines with my secondaries it appears both locations bonuses/'shroom selections may be on a timer similar to Haunting's as they all get the same when ran in back to back fashion.

It'll take several more runs before I'm comfortable with more than appears and may.

I don't recall this being mentioned before, so.....

After several back to back runs to the Deep, Shimmering Pool and Tangled Maze of Thorny Vines with my characters it appears both locations bonuses/'shroom selections may be on a timer as they all get the same when ran in back to back fashion.

It'll take several more runs before I'm comfortable with more than appears and may.

Did we have a heavy finger on the post button? Just messing with you.....:p

[Oldschool]

Did we have a heavy finger on the post button? Just messing with you.....:p

No just operator error - lol. I'd say it's a safe bet I was tinkering with a playlist on Youtube and opened two windows of the same post when editing it because I thought something was fishy when I finished my edit and didn't get the customary reason for editing screen.

[thingirl]

Hmm, Youtube? Fishy? now you're just tempting me. Fish Heads (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCQSitE-nQ4) ROCK!

[Young Ned]

Hmm, Youtube? Fishy? now you're just tempting me. Fish Heads (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCQSitE-nQ4) ROCK!

:D


Edit (to avoid double-posting):
Your exploration of Fogbough is interrupted by the sudden and unwelcome arrival of five One-legged Skeletons...

I get the giggles trying to visualize how one-legged skeletons get around. Hop, hop, hop! :cool:

[thingirl]

They pair up and tie themselves together at the shoulder, so that they have 2 legs.

[Young Ned]

But I had five of them; pairing up doesn't work so well with an odd number.

Plus, they fought me one at a time... :cool:

[psychoadept]

I get the giggles trying to visualize how one-legged skeletons get around. Hop, hop, hop!

Me too! And it always makes me think of the worm from Richard Scarry's books (http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2495/3848363479_61a0dd1568_m.jpg).

[Badstench]

Young Ned observed:
I get the giggles trying to visualize how one-legged skeletons get around. Hop, hop, hop!
This reminded me...

I took time out to spend a couple of hours with my 5yr old niece. We watched "Robots" on our kick-ass big projector TV.

One of the quotes from the movie had to do with music:

"It's a cross between Jazz and Funk. We call it... Junk!"

My niece was very concerned when I fell on the floor laughing.

[psychoadept]

I don't recall this being mentioned before, so.....

After several back to back runs to the Deep, Shimmering Pool and Tangled Maze of Thorny Vines with my secondaries it appears both locations bonuses/'shroom selections may be on a timer similar to Haunting's as they all get the same when ran in back to back fashion.

It'll take several more runs before I'm comfortable with more than appears and may.

I'd noticed that, too. Although it seems to be a fairly short timer, because I usually only manage to get two the same and then it changes, which is why I hadn't mentioned it yet.

[Silk]

Are the goblin totems a random occurrance - or can you find them in specific places?

After over 1,000 explorations of Fogbough I only have the Griffon from Teek and the Hawk (forget where that was - long time ago). Should I be doing anything in particular to find these things?

[Doolipalally]

Are the goblin totems a random occurrance - or can you find them in specific places?

After over 1,000 explorations of Fogbough I only have the Griffon from Teek and the Hawk (forget where that was - long time ago). Should I be doing anything in particular to find these things?

It's a specific place.

Keep working your way through the Windowless Tower.


EDIT: Wasn't it the Serpent you got from Teek?

[Silk]

Yes, Serpent. My mistake.

Thank you for the info -

I've already done the tower. Did I miss something - or are they random rewards and I need to repeat the tower until I get what I want?

[thingirl]

You got the Serpent from "The location Marked on Teek's map". I would recommend going back there. And yes, for the others, keep going to the windowless tower.

EDIT: I need to type faster. Yes, they are random. Repeat it once every hour. Although, do it once more, then put the 3 you have into the block. Then replace the bad ones with better ones as you get them.

[Doolipalally]

Repeat - it should let you accumulate three of every type. If you'e already got three one of them will just crumble.

[thingirl]

And you're giving me spelling advice. (Although, I need it.)

you'e isn't a word. I think you mean "you've". Because you've is a word meaning "You have", where you'e doesn't make sense. ;)

[Doolipalally]

And you're giving me spelling advice. (Although, I need it.)

you'e isn't a word. I think you mean "you've". Because you've is a word meaning "You have", where you'e doesn't make sense. ;)

I'm allowed one typo a month!

[thingirl]

Yeah, yeah, Ms. Librarian. (I hope that's the word for someone who works in a Library.)

EDIT: You'll make many more typos when you start writing in Russian...

[spencer]

I'm allowed one typo a month!


OK, I am going to keep a running Tally...or is it Tallys?;)

[Joddelle]

Hehe. Repped.
And if it is Tallys, can we turn them in for Tolkiens?

[spencer]

Hee hee yourself, repped back :)

[thingirl]

Hehe. Repped.
And if it is Tallys, can we turn them in for Tolkiens?

IDK, but I want my Tome of Attainment.

[spencer]

OOOhhh, Jodelle, my rep has repped you to 200 rep :)

[thingirl]

That's our 3rd 200 repp person. Congrats. (I broke 2000 posts this morning:D.)

[spencer]

Now Jodelle just needs another 558 posts and she will be the first to 5 rep status :)

[thingirl]

I see the chalenge. She's ON! (JK :p) (But that would mean that I post twice as fast as her. It''s at least 3 times, maybe even 4 times.)

EDIT: Although, I'm only 26 points away from 200 repp, so that increases my chances even more.

[Elrond]

Hehe. Repped.
And if it is Tallys, can we turn them in for Tolkiens?

IDK, but I want my Tome of Attainment.

Dang, I'd take the Tome of Attainment over little Tolkiens running around any day; unless you can cash in the little Tolkiens for AT's ;) .

[thingirl]

OK, so I'm a horrible speller when I try to spell right, but I spell perfectly when I'm trying to spell wrong?

[Doolipalally]

Yesterday when I drank from the pool I got +2 NV and -1 SP.

Today my NV has returned to normal but my SP is still -1. I tried drinking from the pool again and just got +1 MR.

Anyone else had a similar experience?

[Silk]

Is your ice shield melting?

[Doolipalally]

Nope - thought of that, and it's fine.

[spencer]

I have had some weird stuff going on with my SP...it fluctuates by 2, at randome intervals. I have emailed the GM, just yesterday, as a matter of fact, but have not yet heard back.

[Joddelle]

OOOhhh, Jodelle, my rep has repped you to 200 rep :)
Thanks for that!

[texlaw1992]

I can't remember if that's how he spells its name, but I'm referring to he map of Fogbough you get after the Dreadstone quests.

Can you find that location through random Fogbough explorations or do you need to do something else to find it? I've found everything else, then went through about 60 other explorations with no luck.

[thingirl]

It's a loose end. No, you can't. In fact, you can't find the location in the first place.

[wetheril]

I can't remember if that's how he spells its name, but I'm referring to he map of Fogbough you get after the Dreadstone quests.

Can you find that location through random Fogbough explorations or do you need to do something else to find it? I've found everything else, then went through about 60 other explorations with no luck.

If you're referring to Thymbrak's map of Fogbough: that is an unresolved plot point at the moment. Rhaknar's Labyrinth is not yet available.

[shadowblack]

Remember, so far we can explore only the OUTER Wood. I believe there will be at least two more explorable areas in Fogbough: The Inner Wood and Rhaknar's Tower+Labyrinth. There might be a third explorable area, if the griffon's domain is not just a Noted Location (let's see how many of you know which griffon I'm talking about).

[scout1idf]

Remember, so far we can explore only the OUTER Wood. I believe there will be at least two more explorable areas in Fogbough: The Inner Wood and Rhaknar's Tower+Labyrinth. There might be a third explorable area, if the griffon's domain is not just a Noted Location (let's see how many of you know which griffon I'm talking about).

Didn't we see one flying around in Ashlyre and again in the woods?
Is that the one you mean?

[shadowblack]

Yep, I'm talking about the one from Ashlyre. I haven't seen any griffon in Fogbough yet (have you?), but maybe in future updates...

[scout1idf]

Yep, I'm talking about the one from Ashlyre. I haven't seen any griffon in Fogbough yet (have you?), but maybe in future updates...

There was a spot while exploring. One of those filler text where you don't get anything. I didn't give it a thought at the time. But now that you mention it.......

[shadowblack]

First time I hear about this. I thought I had seen everything in Fogbough... or maybe I too didn't give it a thought and forgot...

[psychoadept]

There's also that jade key from the Valentine's Day event which I recall was supposed to have something to do with Fogbough. Although I really hope there's another chance to aquire that, because Amir and Vylix were both started/restarted within a week or so AFTER that, in a pit of fique...

[thingirl]

If it's important, there will be a way to acquire it, but probably with a cost. If it's just a bonus though...

[texlaw1992]

I didn't know about any special key since I didn't start Sryth until last month. Hopefully the GM will allow a thievery check if you don't have the key.

[Elrond]

The key is droppable. So, it is most likely not critical to the game or to an adventure. That is based on an assumption that the GM marks important items as "undroppable!"

[psychoadept]

I've become convinced that the length of your bonus from the pool is related to how often you've gazed into the pool or how long you've already had the bonus or something like that (maybe there's a random component, like the melting of the ice shield, too?). Xaran has had his pool bonus for probably a month now, and I was able to be away from the computer for over three days last weekend without losing it.

Vylix, on the other hand, got the bonus that I'd been trying to get for him for ages, right after I got back to town, and when I logged on again less than a day later so he could gaze into the pool, he'd already lost it. I was miffed.

[Oldschool]

Nice observation Psychoadept and after reading your post I agree. I've been concentrating on my secondaries mainly for the past couple of weeks until they finished all the new content. My experiences with them, and Hawk for that matter, back up your theory.

[spencer]

That is a nice observation, psychoadept (rep forthcoming)...I don't think that I gazed the most recent time, but I have enjoyed the +3 MR for almost a week.

[psychoadept]

Thanks for the reps, guys! Wish I could offer more precise info but the exact behavior of gazing into the pool would take way more patience to test than I have...

[spencer]

I wonder if the maze and the pool are tied together at all...I think most likely not...but I usually eat a green or white mushroom to boost my MR, so I wonder if that could possibly help me maintain my pool MR bonus?

[scout1idf]

I wonder if the maze and the pool are tied together at all...I think most likely not...but I usually eat a green or white mushroom to boost my MR, so I wonder if that could possibly help me maintain my pool MR bonus?
I always do the pool first. I've seen it take away MR and/or SP after eating a mushroom that gave me the boost that I wanted. If the pool takes away I just quit without saving and go back and eat a mushroom.

[wetheril]

I always do the pool first. I've seen it take away MR and/or SP after eating a mushroom that gave me the boost that I wanted. If the pool takes away I just quit without saving and go back and eat a mushroom.

I agree with this. I've also noticed that drinking from the pool will take away from a mushroom bonus sometimes.

[thingirl]

Are you guys sure that you wern't under a +MR from the pool and it changes stats/ to a lesser value? And BTW, that has happened to Alanne too.

[kanex7]

this may have been said already but there are too many posts for me to check.

I know this thread is old but I think that gazing into the pool doesn't help. I gazed into the pool to retain my 2+MR but after one fight (less than 5min later) I lost the boost.
So I drank from the pool to gain a new boost and got +3NR. however thats not what I wanted, so I quit without saving even though I knew that I would not be able to visit the pool for another hour anyway. when I got back in I was relieved to find that my MR boost had returned.

Here's the facts:
drink from the pool, gain a bonuse, can't visit the pool for a while;
quit without saving, lose the bounus,can't visit the pool for a while;
my last save had been when I had MR bounus.

My interpretation:
obviously it follows real world time. The game atomatically saves that you drank form the pool and got a bonus, howerever, it does not save what bonus you got. That has to be saved manually. Since it does not save what bonus you got, it gives you no bonus when you quit without saving.
The exception:
My last save said I had a MR bonus so the game thought "he drank from the pool so he should have a bonus. the only record I have is the MR+2 boost so I guess he's supposed to have that one."

summary:
save when you have the bonus you want, then drink from the pool, quit without saving, and you're subscription to that boost is now renewed.

@ those who think gazing helps
my guess is you've been lucky so far or I was just extremly unluck to only get a few extra minutes to my bonus

phew! That took longer than I expected. I'm going to continue experimenting with this. I'll say something if I find I'm wrong.

[wetheril]

@ those who think gazing helps
my guess is you've been lucky so far or I was just extremly unluck to only get a few extra minutes to my bonus

Gazing in the pool used to lengthen the time you had a pool bonus, but doesn't work anymore, after the GM fixed a bug associated with the pool.

[kanex7]

thanks for clearing that up wetheril.
does that mean my method is the only way to maintain the bonus right now?

[Doolipalally]

And what does gazing achieve now?

[wetheril]

I don't think anybody really knows. The discussion regarding the change can be found here (http://www.srythforum.com/showthread.php?t=549).

[taproot97]

hey i saw a magnificent wolf pelt vest with awesome bonuses . is this related to the tattered wolf items ?????

[Young Ned]

If it's not tattered, then probably not...

[zmflavius]

hey i saw a magnificent wolf pelt vest with awesome bonuses . is this related to the tattered wolf items ?????

Where'd you see it?

[shadowblack]

Wasn't that one of Tallys' items?

[wetheril]

I'm not even sure if that item exists. There's a Shimmering Wolf Pelt (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Item:864_Shimmering_Wolf_Pelt) (from Haunting in Durnsig), and a Marauder's Wolfskin Vest (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Item:1600_Marauder%27s_Wolfskin_Vest) at Tallys...

[Oldschool]

I'm like Wetheril unless it was a limited time item, one of the raffle items or from the FoB. I've looked at the raffle items pretty closely a time or two and don't recall it. I haven't looked at the list since I read zmflavius's post however. Also I'm not positive but it's possible (and completely understandable) there are unlisted raffle items. Last but not least, it may possibly be an item from the Festival of Blades as I'm fairly sure that the info on some of those items aren't available.

[shadowblack]

Or maybe the name taproot provided is simply not the accurate name...

[SiannaDey]

Hey,

was anything added to the forest after the first cople weeks??


non-AG...and Thanks!!

[spencer]

Is it possible that the pool in Fogbough mimics the bonus you have in effect for the mushrooms?

[shadowblack]

No. Most of the time the two give different bonuses (such as +4 Stamina from pool and +3 MR from Mushrooms). Plus you can get a bonus from the pool without having one from the mushrooms, so there would be nothing for it to mimic...

[Doolipalally]

Most of the time I get the pool bonus first, as that's completely random, and then go and get a mushroom. So as Shadowblack says, at that point there's nothing for it to mimic.

The one time recently I still had a mushroom bonus in effect when I went to the pool, it gave me NV when the mushroom bonus was SP.

[spencer]

Like I said, it was a wild idea....however, if there was nothing for it to mimic, then it would give you a random bonus instead of no bonus....I am going to experiment just a little, but I am almost positive that the two of you are correct.

[shadowblack]

Despite having an active +3 MR from a small green mushroom the pool gave me +1 SP in place of the still-active +3 NvR bonus I had from earlier.

[spencer]

OK, thanks shadowblack, on the ball, as usual :) It was a wild idea, but it would have made some sense with the pool and reflections and etc..anyway back to grinding :)

[Oldschool]

I was talking about the pool and shrooms. I'm also (dangerous territory I know) assuming Elrond was since he said, "It is just equipment and permanent boosts."

Also in addition to the Wisp of Black Mist the Goblin Totem and Blocks could be considered a Fogbough Bonus.

[shadowblack]

The pool and mushroom bonuses DO count towards the MR and SP rankings. That's why my rankings vary - because my bonuses from them change.

[racey]

The pool and mushroom bonuses DO count towards the MR and SP rankings. That's why my rankings vary - because my bonuses from them change.

That is correct. They do count towards the rankings.


Just wondering Racey and Elrond is your applicable gear customized to boost MR and if that's with the maximum MR boost from Fogbough?

What is the maximum bonus from Fogbough? I don't know if the +5's from the pool are still in the game (and I've never had one). My current #'s 269/229/74 are with a +3 MR from the pool and +3 MR from a small green shroom.

[shadowblack]

Mushrooms: +3 MR / +3 SP / +4 NvR
Pool: +3 MR / + 4 SP / +3 NvR

These are the max I have seen.

[Oldschool]

Ditto on Shadowblack's bonus numbers.

[taproot97]

Double ditto. But not completely. I'm not sure but i think I've had a +4 shroom.

[thingirl]

Ditto on the 'Shrooms. I don't pay enough attention to know about the pool.

Double ditto. But not completely. I'm not sure but i think I've had a +4 shroom.

What color? Large or Small? The max should be small green at +3 MR.

Oh, and should this be moved to the Fogbough thread?

[Doolipalally]

Double ditto. But not completely. I'm not sure but i think I've had a +4 shroom.

For what stat? As Shadowblack says above, you can get a mushroom which gives you a +4 NV bonus (small orange)


Oh, and should this be moved to the Fogbough thread?

Probably!

[billydakid]

I'm pretty sure I had a +5 on the pool before for MR.

[racey]

I'm pretty sure I had a +5 on the pool before for MR.

When I stated about the +5's I had you (+5 MR) and Joddelle (+5 SP) in mind. I am relatively certain that both of you had posted about those +'s. I tried to necrothread to find them however, I did not spend too much time trying to do so and I did not find your posts.

[Oldschool]

Haven't looked at the thread Racey but the following link may be what you're looking for. If not I recall some discussion along the lines that you mention. I also had the same experiences and iirc SMV posted similar experiences. Not necessarily the numbers but the boosts also seemed to effect more than one stat randomly.

Keep in mind most (maybe all) of the "charts" were continually updated so the initial findings may not be showing.

http://www.srythforum.com/showthread.php?t=255

There seemed to be some randomness with some of the mushrooms, mainly the greens. The boost numbers were fairly static but the greens seemed to boost SP and possibly NV as well as MR.

A while back I edited the wiki page taking out the other possible green boosts since I hadn't gotten any green shroom boosts other than +2/+3 for a long time.

On another note I've noticed on a few occasions that I've went to the pool and it bypasses the bonus screen going directly to the timer screen. However I'm thinking it's a screen reload issue as the screen seems to hang up when this happens.

[Lyrehc]

I can't find this in a search and it's not in the wiki so I wanted to ask if anyone else has experienced it. I'm finding that when I drink from the pool it subtracts from one of my other stats to give a bonus to whichever stat increases. So rather than being an actual bonus it's just reappropriating the numbers.

I've had this happen 4 times now. The first two times I wondered if I was hallucinating but the last two I definitely lost NvR while increasing MR.

[shadowblack]

When you drink from the pool you LOSE the previous bonus you had received from it (if it has not worn out already, that is). So if you get +3 SP from the pool, and then an hour later you drink again, you will:
1) Lose the +3 SP
2) Gain a new bonus (which may be +3 SP again)

Mushrooms work the same way. That's not a bug, it's intentional. The bonuses from the pool and the mushrooms are temporary, not permanent, and in addition you can have only 1 bonus from each.

[Lyrehc]

The last time this happened I hadn't been to the pool for 48 hours and previous bonuses had long before worn off.

[zmflavius]

The last time this happened I hadn't been to the pool for 48 hours and previous bonuses had long before worn off.

You certain? As in, you didn't reequip improperly or you weren't thinking of the tangled maze bonus?

[Oldschool]

Shadowblack is spot on as far as my experience goes. If you have the Ice Shield make sure it's not melting and if it is repair it before getting any bonuses. But to answer your question it only adds the amount to the stat indicated except for it removes any existing bonuses from previous visits per Shadowblack's post.

EDIT: The only thing else I can think of (after reading Zm's post) is sometimes if you unequip an item with a phantom bonus sometimes it has to be summoned again. While I've not had an experience with the phantom armor it may act similar to the melting Ice Shield when you get a bonus.

[Lyrehc]

I'm positive.

[Oldschool]

Just read your initial post again. Since it's NvR the Ice Shield is out since it only boosts MR/SP. It could be a phantom armor issue but I doubt it. If you're sure I would send the GM an in game report the next time it happens right after it occurs from that game screen.

The report shows the game section it was generated from. I don't know if the report automatically generates the following so I always include it as well; username, character and email addy.

Good luck.

[Lyrehc]

Thanks - I'll do that.

I don't have the Ice Shield yet so that wouldn't be the cause anyway. ;)

[Young Ned]

The report shows the game section it was generated from. I don't know if the report automatically generates the following so I always include it as well; username, character and email addy.

The email address, at least, is included automatically, as I've never included my email address in a report and I've gotten many replies back. I'm pretty sure that username is included, too, but character name is not, as I almost never include either in the report and I've gotten questions back from him asking whether it was Young Ned, Storel, or Kermit who had had the problem. Which indicates that he got my username, because he was able to look up the names of my characters.

[Lightwielder]

Uh, guys, I feel the need the report this, in case it hasn't been already.

I didn't get the game text, but I returned to the cave where we found and rescued Teek from the Spider Troll, and in there I found 231 Gold and a Goblin Totem(serpent) in the spot where the Spider Troll used to be. If someone found this already, you may disregard it.

EDIT: Eh, hold on. It seems I unlocked some event on the way out of the cave after finding this. As I headed out of the cave, I got a Suddenly..., and it started an event. I didn't get the first three pages(forgot), but I'll write the rest down and save them in case it's important. Off to check the wiki to see if there's anything about this in there, or if I'm the first to find this.(Doubt it)

EDIT: Yeah, it seems it's already there. Never mind me, then. Still, if anyone needs game text for the wiki or something, I have some.

[spencer]

You're currently at Level 1 of the Circle of The Wolf.


At your current level of 1, the Circle of The Wolf is providing you with the following bonuses: +1 to Stamina Points

[Oldschool]

Alright Spencer what else is needed cause I just checked it with the gloves I just found. Leggings I'm guessing and maybe a cap of some sort? And I'm guessing you found 'em in the same place as the gloves?

[spencer]

Well....there are

three more items, in addition to the gloves

I did not find them in the same place, but found something there that helped me get them, and I did not exactly find it, I kinda earned it :)

[paladin]

Well....there are

three more items, in addition to the gloves

I did not find them in the same place, but found something there that helped me get them, and I did not exactly find it, I kinda earned it :)

Well I could use a hint if you wouldn't mind. Marissa's wearing all the Wolf items she has (vest, boots, sleevs, belt and now Gloves and he still says I'm not prepared. So is there more exploring in the ruins?

[spencer]

Yes, to your question, Paladin, you need a total of 8 wolf items and you get the last 3 in the same place

[Oldschool]

Regarding the Wolf Pelt items you may wanna hold back some general xp. 150k should do it but that is PURE speculation on my part.

Spoilerish so be warned.



You have now attained Level 1 of the Circle of The Wolf.



At your new level of 1, the Circle of The Wolf is providing you with the following bonuses: +1 to Stamina Points



128 of your General Experience has been sacrificed upon your attainment of Level 1 of the Circle of The Wolf.



You've reached level 1 in the Circle of The Wolf. There are a total of 10 levels. To attempt to reach the next level, you must return to the cave tomorrow or later.


Here's the obvious questions.

Wonder if it's on a 24 hour reset like Moonpath or a server reset like CHR. By the use of tomorrow I'm guessing and hoping it's like CHR.

And I'm wondering about the general xp to level. I'm thinking a doubling progression like we've seen before. Of course it could be a flat 128xp per run. Should know relatively soon enough.

1. 128
2. 256
3. 512
4. 1024
5. 2048
6. 4096
7. 8192
8. 16384
9. 32768
10. 65336
-----------
Total 130744

[texlaw1992]

I have plenty of xps, so no worries. Let us know what the progression is since I'm having trouble finding dragongems.

[Oldschool]

Re: The Tattered Wolf items.

No surprises as it looks like the Circle of the Wolf is on a daily server reset like the CHR. And it also looks like it is a doubling progression for xp costs.
With a grim snarl, the massive wolf collapses at the centre of the engraved ring. The creature's bulky body, hidden beneath the thick layers of its tattered, ragged coat, shudders violently for several moments before becoming still.

Then, only seconds after its apparent demise, the fearsome forest beast rises to its feet and turns its menacing stare in your direction as the bloody wounds that riddle its torso rapidly begin to disappear.

Despite its defeat at your hands, you inexplicably sense that the wolf now regards you with newfound respect.

A strange feeling suddenly passes over you, leaving you drained, but otherwise unharmed in its wake...


You have now attained Level 2 of the Circle of The Wolf.


At your new level of 2, the Circle of The Wolf is providing you with the following bonuses: +2 to Stamina Points


256 of your General Experience has been sacrificed upon your attainment of Level 2 of the Circle of The Wolf.


You've reached level 2 in the Circle of The Wolf. There are a total of 10 levels. To attempt to reach the next level, you must return to the cave tomorrow or later.

[Draxas]

right behind you oldscool, as you stated earlier, its like CHR, better save up some EXP

[Oldschool]

Since there's already a Tattered Wolf Cave/items thread it's probably better to take any further discussions there. I've already quoted a couple posts.

Here's the link starting with the quoted posts.

http://www.srythforum.com/showthread.php?p=37465&postcount=31

[texlaw1992]

It's a random event that can be repeated indefinitely and currently does not lead to anything, although it may be one ofthe events you need to find to unlock one of the Fogbough - Baleward missions.

[Young Ned]

Well, at one point we find Tallys in the depths of that wood, and that's when he gives us the quest for the... what is it, heavy black pouches? So I always suspected that the Oakaruks who've been beaten up with a blunt instrument were the ones that ran into Tallys. The old man can still defend himself pretty effectively. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v735/Old_Ned/icon_cool.gif

[mahansolo]

I've been trying to encounter the ghost in Fogbough forest that "charges you with finding the heir to Castle Baleward" It is the last requirement for embarking on the Heir to the Flame quest. Is there something I'm missing or is it a possible glitch? I must've explored that place a couple of hundred times and have uncovered everything else but that damned ghost (no pun intended)

Thanks in advance for any advice.

"A friend helps you move. A true friend helps you move a BODY"

[Oldschool]

It sounds like you've checked the wiki but in case you haven't here's the link (beware of spoilers), http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Quest:Heir_to_the_Flame#Prerequisites

The only thing I can think of atm is The Windowless Tower needs to be completed not just found but I don't think that would affect your ability to find the ghost but it may.

Good luck.

[mahansolo]

It turned out to be that pesky goblin messenger in Ashlyre that someone else had posted about previously. (I post it again here in case some other lost soul needs help)

Thanks, as always, for your diligent assistance, Oldschool.