Cave of the Ice Troll [Archive]

Oldschool

07-02-2009, 12:28 AM

After a lengthy hiatus (hazard of being character number four I suppose :rolleyes:) Voltan just resumed his quest for the Ice Shield and completed his fifteenth trip.

Unfortunately I was spamming through the key-holders and didn't notice the/a text change but when I went to use the requested circle key I had two of them in my inventory. Also as is sometimes usual after using it Voltan was then asked for the square key. Once I used it as usual all my keys disappeared including the second circular key. Has anyone ran into this before.

scout1idf

07-02-2009, 02:24 AM

zmflavius

07-03-2009, 12:13 AM

I figured that since we have all the other replayables here, we might include this one.

thingirl

07-03-2009, 12:21 AM

It took me FOREVER to get my ice shield. BUT my last battle was on the last day to buy tikkets for Bandryp's loot. So I traded in my Tallys shield on Monday, got my Ice shield on Friday, and bought the Dragongem Helm the following Monday.

scout1idf

07-03-2009, 01:33 AM

It took me FOREVER to get my ice shield.

It took Ulric months to get his. I play Scout 99% of the time so I would forget to do the run till it was past bed time or time for work. But he finally got it.

Oldschool

07-03-2009, 03:22 AM

I figured that since we have all the other replayables here, we might include this one.

Good idea zmflavius, also good to see you got your original handle back.

Also I need to clarify the order of posts as zmflavius's (boy oh boy it's gonna take some getting used to the correct :o use of the possessive form - lol) post was the first/creation of the thread. I moved the top two posts from another thread (it automatically places them in chronological order) as the replayable scenarios sub-board wasn't up then.

Taleria

07-16-2009, 10:15 PM

I'd just like to take this opportunity to whine about those darn random brigands. Yes, I realize they are Quick Combattable and weak, and that they can give up to ten exp, but they're just really annoying. They used to be less frequent, so it was okay, but sometimes they appear at the most inopportune moments, like when SP is low due to those nasty middle fights that you can't run away from. Phew. I feel better having gotten it out. Thanks for your time.

thingirl

07-17-2009, 12:12 AM

That's why I retreat while I still have 40ish stamina.

thingirl

07-23-2009, 04:27 PM

Hey, look at this: You make a close examination of the door and discover a triangular keyhole set into the centre of the massive slab of ice.

A particular item might be of use here...

It never asks for the triange key. Hey, I'm gonna show off my Ice Shield to that Troll now.

shadowblack

07-23-2009, 04:29 PM

It's been asking for the triangle key for quite some time (several months now).

thingirl

07-23-2009, 04:34 PM

Guess I haven't been playing the Ice Cave much then.

zmflavius

07-23-2009, 04:38 PM

As I post, I'm still doing the Ice cave, but for me, it's always been square. Maybe it changes after you get the ice shield?

Doolipalally

07-23-2009, 04:40 PM

As I post, I'm still doing the Ice cave, but for me, it's always been square. Maybe it changes after you get the ice shield?

No, you can get all three shapes before you get the ice shield. I'm still trying to get the shield with one of my characters now, and she had the triangle the other day.

shadowblack

07-23-2009, 04:56 PM

As I post, I'm still doing the Ice cave, but for me, it's always been square. Maybe it changes after you get the ice shield?
Do you check the door before getting any of the keys? There were some reports in the past that if you check the door before you get any key you will always need the square one.

zmflavius

07-23-2009, 05:04 PM

Do you check the door before getting any of the keys? There were some reports in the past that if you check the door before you get any key you will always need the square one.

yeah, I always do.

psychoadept

07-23-2009, 07:26 PM

yeah, I always do.

Yup, me too.

thingirl

07-23-2009, 08:47 PM

I check after. A few moons ago :rolleyes: It was always either square or circle. But just now, it was a triangle.

Joddelle

07-23-2009, 09:57 PM

zmflavius

07-23-2009, 10:27 PM

Why check the door before getting the keys?
Is/was there a benefit to that, other than forcing use of the square key?

I guess if you don't want the easy XP from all three key-holders, it's a way to skip a couple combats.

I'm the sort of guy who doesn't even bother doing more than six snares in the silent temple. For me, it's always the easy way.

psychoadept

07-23-2009, 11:14 PM

it's a way to skip a couple combats.

That's exactly it. You could get out with just the one key.

I hate the cave. Always wanted to get out of there ASAP. Haven't been back there with Xaran since I got my Ice Shield. I keep forgetting to run it with Vylix, even though he really kinda needs the shield...

Oldschool

07-24-2009, 12:31 AM

I'm like Joddelle I run all the key holders and normally I flee on the last so as to restore my NV for the Ice Troll. Also even with the triangles introduction or maybe re-introduction the bug is still there in regards to the keys.

racey

07-31-2009, 05:19 PM

Love when this happens...

XP +768 You've been awarded a total of 768 Experience...
768 xp applied to general...

XP +128 You've been awarded 128 Experience...
128 xp applied to All Skills and Powers...

Taleria

08-02-2009, 11:36 AM

And that demonstrates precisely why I run the cave When I'm doing the grinding circuit. You also get around 140 combat XP for the troll and an additional 64 XP on top of that. I don't know why more people don't make the cave a habit for the profitability.

thingirl

08-04-2009, 01:07 AM

Because you can only run it once evry 24 hrs.

Oldschool

08-04-2009, 04:55 AM

Yeah, but a lot of folks stop visiting it after they get the Ice Shield. Also the power uses give a good amount of xp especially if you're trying to get one of those powers leveled. The gear is usually pretty profitable as well especially for the number of pieces.

Definitely would like to see the timer tweaked like the CHR's.

scout1idf

08-04-2009, 05:18 AM

When I was still grinding, I made a point of hitting the ice cave each day.

Hopefully soon I'll get back into the groove and start grinding again, but for now I just can't seem to do it......

Chareos

08-04-2009, 07:28 AM

I run the Cave every day that I can. Unfortunately, due to the 24 hour timer starting after you finish the run I don't have time to do it before work by the end of the week. So normally I run it Monday to Thursday, miss Friday, run Saturday and then lie in on Sunday and have to miss it or it would ruin me for the week :-( Hopefully the GM will make it like the CHR.

thingirl

08-04-2009, 03:41 PM

@ Scout, that's perfectly understandable.
@ Chareos, me too.

Plezier

08-10-2009, 10:11 AM

Damn looks like I messed up as the shield appeared above the slain troll but I could not grab it and the glittering ice shard can only be used in a safe location?

As for the great loot.............. Huh???

All I got was Studded leather gauntlets (CM) and a common dagger.................. sheesh :rolleyes:

Oh it asked for the Square key! ;)

Oh well I will try again tomorrow.

shadowblack

08-10-2009, 10:23 AM

No, you didn't mess up. You'll understand in time.

Plezier

08-10-2009, 04:26 PM

Ahhh thank you that's nice to know :D.

smv1973

08-11-2009, 01:33 AM

Just the third time ever to get this reward from the Ice Troll Cave.

XP +768 You've been awarded a total of 768 Experience...
768 xp applied to general...

XP +128 You've been awarded 128 Experience...
128 xp applied to All Skills and Powers...

thingirl

08-11-2009, 01:56 PM

Plezier, why did you -repp me? Your comment didn't make any scene. I wasn't even talking to you (hence the @name). If it's about the saying I understood Scout, well, I don't want to remind him. His cat died from cancer resonantly. Oh, and Shadow's comment. You have to defeat him 36 times to get the shield. And yes, the Glittering Ice Shard from the last Sevenhorn adventure can only be used in a SAFE location.

Plezier

08-24-2009, 09:49 AM

I repped you because you have been extremely helpful and it would not allow me to do it for an earlier comment until I had repped some others ;) I hope that explains.

As for the Ice Cave well todays run (missed yesterday due to being out and about in the real world):-

The apparition of the shield is so bright that you're forced to avert your eyes. At the edge of your vision, in centre of the strange, hovering image of the shield, is a dark, jagged impression.

You can hear what sounds like a harsh whisper from somewhere nearby.

You attempt to reach out and touch the shield, but your hand passes through the apparition.

Hmmm I have never yet seen the number on the shield to tell me how many visits I have made to the cave :confused: that is mentioned in the Wiki information on the cave.

XP +256 You've been awarded a total of 256 Experience...
256 xp applied to general...

XP +64 You've been awarded 64 Experience...
64 xp applied to All Skills and Powers...

Oh well the shield is still beyond my grasp :( so I suppose I ahd better return to Westmere and earn soem more XP's then onto Tarn for yet more XP's. I need three more levels in Fortification to reach the magic Level 70 so back to the grind.

thingirl

08-24-2009, 02:43 PM

I understand that, but you accidentally checked the "I disapprove" button, and that subtracted instead of added. 's ok.

Taleria

08-24-2009, 04:12 PM

I'm debating whether or not to run the ice cave now or wait until Selkit has Archery and the useable powers at seventy. Is it even doable without the skill/powers, given that getting hit by falling ice or the troll's attacks takes so much SP? The problem is that if I wait, it'll take that much longer for Selkit to get the shield, and she could really use it since she didn't take any MR-boosting item from "Haunting." She's only got 127 SP. Somehow I think that's too low, but ATs are currently tied up in the Silver Star Shield, so can't get Dragongem items. Oh, and for reference purposes, powers are all in the fifties and skills are about mid-sixties. Better yet, here's Selkit's profile. (http://www.sryth.com/p/?14cccb4xce1deaf34) Any advice?

thingirl

08-24-2009, 06:52 PM

Spend your Gen. XP on Archery (It will help you in the tournie, and you might get some ATs) and use the GC to get Elementalism up to 70. And, yes, the longer you wait, the longer it is 'till she gets the shield, but she also gets more XP.

Plezier

08-25-2009, 10:07 AM

I understand that, but you accidentally checked the "I disapprove" button, and that subtracted instead of added. 's ok.

Sorry for that I have corrected (hopefully) that error.

Ahhh it seems that someone was listening as I have just done my daily run of the Ice Cae and the number on the shield is now showing:-

The apparition of the shield is so bright that you're forced to avert your eyes. At the edge of your vision, in centre of the strange, hovering image of the shield, is a dark, jagged impression.

A barely-discernible etching of the number 11 adorns the surface of the shield, just above the jagged mark.

You can hear what sounds like a low, sinister voice from somewhere nearby.

Hmmmm I would have guessed that it's been more than 11 days whilst attempting this. Although I did miss a day or two due to being busy so that perhaps explains it.

Oh well I have a long ways to go yet it seems! Doh!

thingirl

08-25-2009, 12:42 PM

11? Well, you coppyed the text. But it says 12 on the wiki. And I thought it as 12... Oh well. I would change it, but...

Taleria

08-25-2009, 05:43 PM

I've decided to grind powers and skills to at least 70 before attempting the cave. I figure I'll still need them that high for PG V, and anyway, the shield is not usable unless Weaponry is at 80. It's a bit of a pain to do right now because you need to roll over 100 to successfully dodge. Too much margin for failure.

thingirl

08-25-2009, 05:53 PM

OK, get Elementalism to 70 from the GC and get Archery up to 70. You get AS&P XP from the cave, so don't worry about Weaponry right now. Level it up when you fight your 35th victory. After you get Elementalism and Archery up to 70, save up Gen. XP for Weaponry.

Plezier

08-25-2009, 06:41 PM

Hmmmm well I have only recently increased Elementalism to level 70 and I mean about 3 days ago. Only managed to get Fortification to level 70 today. Plezier's skill levels are:-

Skill Level Title
Arcana 74 Master Arcanist
Archery 76 Master Archer
Horsemanship 72 Master Horseman
Lore 72 Master Sage
Thievery 75 Master Rogue
Weaponry 77 Master Warrior
Weaponry: Bashing 74 Master Smiter
Weaponry: Hacking 69 Adept Axeman
Weaponry: Lances 72 Master Lancer
Weaponry: Polearms 69 Adept Pikeman
Weaponry: Slashing 76 Master Swordsman
Weaponry: Stabbing 69 Adept Bladesman
Weaponry: Troll-Bont 71 Master Bontsman
Woodsmanship 75 Master Huntsman

Powers are:-

Power Level Title
Conjuration 64 Adept Conjurer
Destruction 65 Adept Battlemage
Divination 64 Adept Diviner
Elementalism 70 Master Elementalist
Fortification 70 Master Shieldwarden
Gating 61 Adept Summoner
Illusion 64 Adept Illusionist
Necromancy 70 Master Necromancer
Restoration 71 Master Healer
Shadow Magic 70 Master Shadowmage
Telekinesis 65 Adept Telekineticist

Stats

Melee Rating: 140 Stamina Points: 153 Nevernal Reserve: 37

In the cave I tend to use Restoration after the fights with the frozen brigands and use the Quick Combat to resolve the fights. Only sometimes does this require other intervention or the use of powers to resolve the combat. A couple of times I had to retreat to rest when the roll of the numbers went against me and it required a heavy use of restoration to heal. Often Plezier can make it through to the Troll and defeat him without resorting to resting.

Not trying to boast here just inform that even with my poor luck in the game that the Troll and Ice Cave can be done without waiting to achieve level 70. Dodging his attackes is how I managed before although Shadow Magic is useful there and I did have that at level 70 for some time now.

zmflavius

08-25-2009, 06:49 PM

Those are pretty good stats to run the ice troll cave with.

thingirl

08-25-2009, 06:53 PM

Yeah, you only nead archery 70 and either SM, Elementalism, or Fortafaction at 70 to do it. And those are good stats all around.

Plezier

08-26-2009, 12:38 AM

Why thank you :D I just keep working on them as I can. A few Tarn runs especially now I have accessed to first lower level helps as do the BHC and the LoO although things will slow for the next couple of days as time to play will be sparse. It will have to be Telekinesis or Illusion that will brought up to level 70 next. It will depepnd on what my next goal is in the game as I tend to aim to achieve something like a particular quest or way of completing the quest.

thingirl

08-26-2009, 02:04 PM

I raised most of my powers because of a Tallys Item. None of which I still wear.

Elrond

09-23-2009, 12:48 AM

Ouch, I just lost 45 SP after failing the 2nd power check at the start of the cave!

thingirl

09-23-2009, 01:04 AM

At least it's the start and you can retreat. Or just use restro.

Elrond

09-23-2009, 01:06 AM

At least it's the start and you can retreat. Or just use restro.

Neither, I just carried on and fought the 3 frozen brigands right after the 2nd check. Then I used restoration.

shadowblack

09-23-2009, 07:33 AM

Ouch, I just lost 45 SP after failing the 2nd power check at the start of the cave!
Just 45 Stamina? Lucky *******! I seem to always lose over 50!

Elrond

09-23-2009, 02:11 PM

Just 45 Stamina? Lucky *******! I seem to always lose over 50!

Wow, 45 is the most I've lost in the more than 100 or 200 Ice Cave visits I've done! Losing 50+ sucks!!!!!!!

thingirl

09-23-2009, 02:15 PM

I can never remember to go to the ice cave anymore.

Elrond

09-23-2009, 03:07 PM

Oh well! I have to continue my obnoxious streak with Thingirl's posts in this session!

I can never remember to go to the ice cave anymore.

But you do remember to post in the Ice Cave thread :D . Ok, if this is going too far, just un-repp me with a message!

thingirl

09-23-2009, 03:08 PM

Nah, I don't hate you that much ;).

Elrond

09-23-2009, 03:12 PM

Nah, I don't hate you that much ;).

Not that much; but some! I love it!

thingirl

09-23-2009, 03:16 PM

Now you're just freaking me out.

psychoadept

10-07-2009, 12:00 AM

Vylix is at 18/36 today. With luck (and remembering), he'll have his shield within the month...

texlaw1992

10-08-2009, 06:02 AM

scout1idf

10-08-2009, 06:07 AM

I saw that on the Wiki. None of the other repeatable scenarios seem to require more than 10 runs through. 36 runs, and only once every 24 hours, is just too many for my taste. I'll stick with my shield from Tally's unless the GM lowers the number of runs to 12 or so.

Are you sure???

Glittering Ice Shield (frozen) (Use)

* Class: Armour, Shield
* Encumbrance: 15
* Quality: Magical
* Melee Rating: +15
* Stamina Points: +7
* Requires 16 Spirit.
* Requires 16 Body.
* Requires 16 Might.
* Requires 80 Weaponry.

This heavy, glittering shield is crafted out of a solid slab of thick ice. Leather bands attached to the back of the shield provide a surprisingly effective method of wielding the object, though you cannot fathom how they remain affixed to the item's frozen surface.

You obtained this remarkable, enchanted shield after a long series of victories over the ice troll in its remote, frigid lair.

Current Level: 8

Condition: frozen

Enchance/Restore Shield

Just do like I did with my secondary Ulric. He took months running it, most of the time I forgot to do it or just didn't have time. (Scout comes first)

wetheril

10-08-2009, 06:14 AM

I saw that on the Wiki. None of the other repeatable scenarios seem to require more than 10 runs through. 36 runs, and only once every 24 hours, is just too many for my taste. I'll stick with my shield from Tally's unless the GM lowers the number of runs to 12 or so.

It may sound like a long time, and too much trouble, but it's really not that bad. I agree with Scout that it IS worth the trouble. Only my main, Altaria, has the ice shield at the moment (I've been really scattered about playing my secondaries), but Tsuki is already on day 26. She should have the Ice Shield in a little over a week if I continue to run her at least once a day.

Oldschool

10-08-2009, 06:19 AM

It's definitely a time consuming affair Texlaw but it is also definitely worth at least reconsidering.

The Ice Shield when fully leveled (MR+15/SP+7) outshines all other shields including those at Tallys except for the Coiled Serpent Shield (MR+17/SP+7/NR+1) which costs a whooping 304 ATs. Plus, the ATs you get refunded if you're sporting a Tallys shield when you finally do get it can be spent for other Tallys gear.

Also the rewards in the Ice Cave are nice in and of themselves although one should have some of the skills/powers in the last segment at the requisite level to both take advantage of them and to stand a better chance at successfully running the quest.

With my secondaries I had Archery at the required level or close enough that leveling it didn't take much xp. I also just leveled Shadow Magic since it was my highest level and thus didn't take as much xp.

One thing is for sure. After running four characters through it and two of them at the same time followed closely by a third - it is one of the games more exasperating challenges, but well worth it once completed.

thingirl

10-08-2009, 01:22 PM

Yes, kind of like the Bowl of Blood, but not as frustrating. Yes, the BoB takes less runs (hypothetically) but getting killed after you get a gem and not getting gems at all is just annoying.

As for the shield: As Wetheril said, even if you only run the Cave like, 2 or 3 times a week, you'll eventually get it. And the XP is nice. Of course, you'll need Weaponry 80 to use it, but that can be blitz trained once you get the darned thing.

scout1idf

10-08-2009, 03:29 PM

........ Of course, you'll need Weaponry 80 to use it, but that can be blitz trained once you get the darned thing.

Or better yet, that's what you train as you make your runs for the shield. That way it is usable when you get it.

thingirl

10-08-2009, 05:28 PM

What I meant was hoard you general XP and use the specific you get from the Cave to level it up. Then, when you have the shield, you should have enough XP to raise your Weaponry to 80 AND level up the shield.

Elrond

10-08-2009, 09:53 PM

Re: Glittering Ice Shield. That item is free to acquire; and it's value at Tallys is easily 200+ AT's. It frees up the AT's used on shields to be used for other equipment. The gain is double!

Kruck

10-08-2009, 10:00 PM

I agree with elrond, while it does take over a month to get, its well worth it...

That said Tally is a master of not letting you out the door with more AT's than you went in with, you may get your AT's back for your shield but Tally will take em off you in exchange for some other shinee before you get out the door..

thingirl

10-08-2009, 10:04 PM

But, you will have a better item.

I actually got my shield about 1 day before tickets for Treasures of Taweir (raffle) stopped being buy able. So, I traded in my shield a little early and bought a bunch of tickets.

texlaw1992

10-09-2009, 07:18 AM

Thanks for the advice. It's food for thought, although I still think 36 times is too many.

The Ice Shield is better than my Tallys Shield. Maybe I'll try the Ice Cave again once I finish the Bowl of Blood.

zmflavius

10-09-2009, 12:13 PM

It's a test of patience. And designed to push you to your limits.

scout1idf

10-09-2009, 03:23 PM

It's a test of patience. And designed to push you to your limits.

And boy did it push!

Joddelle

10-10-2009, 02:33 AM

Violette has 91 MR and 136 SP at her "Haleblade/Max SP configuration" and she's on day 7 of the Ice Troll.

I only got her Shadow Magic to 70 today, so I'm looking forward to using it in the Cave tomorrow instead of rolling dodges. Archery might be 70 today too, if I decide to finish off the 400 xp in level 68 with General, and push on through 69 with pure General - probably not though.

Anyway - the Haleblade is your friend - even unwounded, I've beat the troll to death with Haleblade without using a quickstone heal in 5 out of 7 days.

Oldschool

10-10-2009, 03:21 AM

I've beat the troll to death with Haleblade without using a quickstone heal in 5 out of 7 days.

Repped. Very impressive considering you're not using any powers in the final encounter and fighting the Ice Troll unwounded.

Joddelle

10-10-2009, 03:41 AM

Thank you.

And yeah, I had to fall back on Necromancy the other two days. Big loss of XP :(

wetheril

10-10-2009, 06:27 AM

I started Claivoyance on the Ice Troll today, and was pretty shocked with the end rewards at first...I'd almost forgotten just how nice the inaugural rewards are!

Beowulf

10-10-2009, 06:36 AM

wetheril

10-10-2009, 06:51 AM

Clair hasn't started until just now? She's already pretty high-ranked. Rep'd.

I have no idea how much Khaon has; after a hiatus, she's still seeing a solid shield, but can't grasp it or something along that flavour text...probably halfway or something...

Edit: Whenever I refind out how to rep again... ^^;;;

I only really started developing her in the last two weeks. I've been using her as a Wiki guinea pig in some of the newer adventures, so she's seen some...exciting times. :rolleyes:

Good to see you around again, Beo. Have a welcome back rep from me.

(To rep, you click the folder icon with a check/X on it just above a person's post. )

smv1973

10-10-2009, 05:22 PM

I only really started developing her in the last two weeks. I've been using her as a Wiki guinea pig in some of the newer adventures, so she's seen some...exciting times. :rolleyes:

Good to see you around again, Beo. Have a welcome back rep from me.

(To rep, you click the folder icon with a check/X on it just above a person's post. )

Just so you know when you give a player a Rep and have not made at least 10 posts the Rep you give will not count towards that players Reputation.

texlaw1992

10-10-2009, 09:47 PM

Since it's only once every 24 hours and I have nothing to do except finish Bowl of Blood (up to 8 gems now - hopefully I'll get to 10 this weekend), I'm taking everyone's advice and tacking the Ice Cave. Cleared it three times so far - 33 to go (sigh - I still wish it was only a dozen at most).

texlaw1992

10-15-2009, 03:33 AM

Didn't even bother with the Ice Cave the last two days - just doesn't grab me like Axepath.

Anyway, at the beginning of the Ice Cave there's a square that refers to a frozen adventurer in the wall. It's the only square like that. Can you use a skill, power or item to get anything?

Oldschool

10-15-2009, 03:38 AM

No it is just flavor text. Many players, including myself, have wondered about that however.

wetheril

10-25-2009, 09:26 PM

For Tsuki at long last!

"Take it, it is yours," issues a low, sinister voice from somewhere nearby. You quickly glance around the chamber, but there is no sign of anyone else present.

"May what served me for three hundred years be your faithful protector," continues the voice. "Leave this place, and never return."

As your gaze falls back upon the carcass of the slain ice troll, you are dismayed to discover that the image of the shield has vanished. However, your eyes quickly dart to the frozen ground at your feet, where lies the object that has for so long been merely an apparition just beyond your reach.

You stare down at a magnificent, glittering shield of ice. Wasting no time, you pick up the weighty, frozen shield.

ITEM You've acquired: Glittering Ice Shield

You once again scour the chamber for any sign of whoever (or whatever) it was that spoke to you only moments ago, but you discover nothing and the voice is not heard again.

With the shield now safely in your possession, you turn your thoughts to finding your way out of this frigid lair.

racey

10-25-2009, 09:40 PM

Congrats on your rep worthy achievement wetheril. Also congrats on your 600th rep!

wetheril

10-25-2009, 09:44 PM

Congrats on your rep worthy achievement wetheril. Also congrats on your 600th rep!

Thank you Racey. :)

spencer

10-26-2009, 10:58 AM

For Tsuki at long last!

Congrats and repped :)

Doolipalally

10-26-2009, 11:39 AM

Congrats & repped - bet that's a nice feeling!

wetheril

10-26-2009, 01:35 PM

Congrats and repped :)

Thank you Spencer!

Congrats & repped - bet that's a nice feeling!

It certainly is. No more late night troll cave runs for a while--at least, for this one. :D And thank you too.

Also, thank you Scout and Shadowblack!

smv1973

10-26-2009, 07:21 PM

Congrats Wetheril on getting the Ice Shield and for going past 600 Rep's.

Oldschool

10-27-2009, 08:36 PM

Ditto Wetheril and a little pre congrats to you for 800 SMV since my repping power was only strong enough to get you to 799.

kanex7

11-27-2009, 07:27 PM

I was grinding when all of the sudden it hit me: I'm strong enugh to do the Ice troll!
I've completed it twice but 34 more runs to go!!:eek: Thats crazy. I would've liked to get by christmas. I dont think thats happening.
All things considered I think Kane will be the only one to get it. Anri can keep Shield Of Vengeance and hopefully the Copper-Emblazoned items will be made avaliable again so that Tao can get that sheild.
I know the rewards for this scenario are great but this scenario isn't that enjoyable. I'd rather do Tarn.
I'd better get back to grinding. So tired...

kanex7

11-27-2009, 07:45 PM

I just remembered, if the Ice Troll is a troll(it's in the name if you didn't notice:D) shouldn't a troll-bont...um...bont against him?(that sounds awkward)
I didn't see its special activate against the Ice troll. Is it immune or is it my bad luck?

shadowblack

11-27-2009, 07:47 PM

Despite the name the Ice Troll is a troll-like elemental creature, and so it counts as an elemental, not a troll.

kanex7

11-27-2009, 07:52 PM

I hadn't thought about it that way. Thanks shadowblack.
I guess I might as well store my troll-bont.

texlaw1992

11-27-2009, 08:19 PM

Boy, talk about 27 wasted combats - I've been using the troll bont each time.

Ok, 3/4 of the way through - it's the SSL from now on.

Young Ned

11-28-2009, 03:03 AM

Nope, the "ice troll" isn't considered a troll as far as the troll-bont is concerned. The problem is that the game only considers monsters to be of a single type, even if you would think they'd be considered multiple types. For instance, if you fight an undead goblin, you would think either an undead weapon (Trielra's staff (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Item:1521_Trielra%27s_Staff), Creyn blade (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Creyn_Blade)) or a goblin-specific weapon (Goblindoom (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Item:1199_Goblindoom)) would work against them, right? Well, no. The game can consider them either a goblin or an undead, and it usually goes with undead, so Goblindoom won't affect them.

In this case, all the ice creatures in the ice troll's lair, including the big guy, are considered ice elementals. So a weapon that affects elementals, like the Blade of Elemental Rage (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Item:1341_Blade_Of_Elemental_Rage) or the Enchanter's Dagger (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Item:1356_Enchanter%27s_Dagger) will work with the ice troll (and all the brigands), but the Engraved Troll-Bont (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Item:859_Engraved_Troll-Bont) won't.

If you look at the expanded info for the ice troll by clicking on its link in the game, you'll notice it's described as a "troll-like" creature rather than an actual troll. I suspect this is the in-game justification for the troll-bont not working on it. :cool:

taproot97

12-04-2009, 11:45 AM

Awesome

XP +768 You've been awarded a total of 768 Experience...
768 xp applied to general...

XP +128 You've been awarded 128 Experience...
128 xp applied to All Skills and Powers...

texlaw1992

12-05-2009, 05:07 AM

JUst finished my 35th trip through the ice cave.

The magic number 36 and the ice shield are finally within reach.

I hope there's a good xp bonus which comes with the 36th trip, but guess I'll find out tomorrow.

Elrond

12-05-2009, 05:19 AM

Regardless of the xp bonus; you're gonna have to fork over 16K xp to level up the shield to its max capacity. But it will be xp well-spent.

texlaw1992

12-06-2009, 05:48 AM

racey

12-06-2009, 01:20 PM

Congrats and repped for your achievement texlaw1992!

smv1973

12-06-2009, 04:52 PM

I got the Ice Shield! All powered up to 8 and ready to go.

Now I'll open a shadow gate in front of the Ice Troll's cave and entomb that thing forever. It'll do unless I can find a small thermonuclear device somewhere in Sryth.

Goodbye Ice Troll, I won't miss you.

Congrats on your new Ice Shield. The Ice Troll can be a good source of exp and it can only done once every 24 hours so it is not that bad to do after you have the Ice Shield.

texlaw1992

12-06-2009, 07:00 PM

I appreciate the support. It was a long slog to get that shield. I'm not going anywhere near the Ice Cave for a few weeks.

racey

12-06-2009, 10:57 PM

I appreciate the support. It was a long slog to get that shield. I'm not going anywhere near the Ice Cave for a few weeks.

You get 128 xp to a power if your power doesn't fail. 24 xp to archery and a minimum of 136 combat xp from the troll. Plus a minimum of 32 xp to all S&P. This goes without saying that the run itself will now be made easier just by having the Ice Shield. I would advise running that spot every day.

scout1idf

12-07-2009, 02:46 AM

I appreciate the support. It was a long slog to get that shield. I'm not going anywhere near the Ice Cave for a few weeks.
Don't let yourself get out of the habit.

You don't have to run it every day, but don't let the extra XP slip completely away.....

Young Ned

12-07-2009, 03:22 AM

Conga-rats on the ice shield, Texlaw! It is a satisfying feeling to finally get it, isn't it? :cool:

taproot97

12-08-2009, 01:36 PM

Does the troll bont help against the ice troll ?

shadowblack

12-08-2009, 01:43 PM

Read this post (http://www.srythforum.com/showthread.php?p=18450#post18450) (which - for me - is on this same page, but that may not be the case for you).

texlaw1992

12-13-2009, 06:23 AM

I went back to the Ice Cave tonight to see if anything changed since I got the ice shield, as well as wondering if I'd like the cave any better now.

Nothing has changed, and I still don't like it. Give me the ice goblins any day.

jimyred

12-20-2009, 09:08 PM

"Take it, it is yours," issues a low, sinister voice from somewhere nearby. You quickly glance around the chamber, but there is no sign of anyone else present.

"May what served me for three hundred years be your faithful protector," continues the voice. "Leave this place, and never return."

As your gaze falls back upon the carcass of the slain ice troll, you are dismayed to discover that the image of the shield has vanished. However, your eyes quickly dart to the frozen ground at your feet, where lies the object that has for so long been merely an apparition just beyond your reach.

You stare down at a magnificent, glittering shield of ice. Wasting no time, you pick up the weighty, frozen shield.

ITEM You've acquired: Glittering Ice Shield

You once again scour the chamber for any sign of whoever (or whatever) it was that spoke to you only moments ago, but you discover nothing and the voice is not heard again.

With the shield now safely in your possession, you turn your thoughts to finding your way out of this frigid lair.

Please continue...

YYEEAAAAYYYY!!!!!

So I ran it, got the shield, and was so excited that I went right back to my residence, used my Ice Shard, and went to start leveling it up. All of the sudden, it logged me completely out, and I realized that I hadn't saved. Started to go into panic mode, thinking that I would have to wait until tomorrow to try again. Fortunately, it didn't reset the timer, and I was able to do it again and get it a second time. So after 37 runs, I'm with texlaw, taking Christmas off from the Ice Troll.

wetheril

12-20-2009, 10:10 PM

Congratulations on your milestone, Jimyred!

Young Ned

12-22-2009, 06:34 AM

Conga-rats! Quite a satisfying accomplishment, isn't it? :D

Oldschool

12-29-2009, 03:09 AM

Definitely worth a run through when you get one of these.

XP +384 You've been awarded a total of 384 Experience...
384 xp applied to general...

XP +96 You've been awarded 96 Experience...
96 xp applied to All Skills and Powers...

spencer

03-03-2010, 01:49 PM

XP +768 You've been awarded a total of 768 Experience...
768 xp applied to general...

XP +128 You've been awarded 128 Experience...
128 xp applied to All Skills and Powers...

It has been a VERY, VERY long time since I got this reward in the Ice Troll Cave :D

Oldschool

03-06-2010, 10:33 PM

XP +384 You've been awarded a total of 384 Experience...
384 xp applied to general...

XP +96 You've been awarded 96 Experience...
96 xp applied to All Skills and Powers...

Oldschool

03-12-2010, 11:39 PM

Gotta remember to run Moonpath more often.

XP +384 You've been awarded a total of 384 Experience...
384 xp applied to general...

XP +96 You've been awarded 96 Experience...
96 xp applied to All Skills and Powers...

Lightwielder

04-15-2010, 10:21 AM

Hey, guys. I was going through the Cave of the Ice Troll. Right as I was engaging the Ice Troll, I noticed this text.
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"The hulking ice troll, its hateful gaze fixed on you from behind its lurid yellow eyes, steps in your direction and snarls viciously.
"A strange, silver glitter from amidst your possessions catches your eye."
With its fearsome bellows echoing off the walls, the ice troll suddenly charges across the chamber toward you..."
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I suspect it was somehow connected to this item.

Rithwyra's Luck Coin (Use)

* Class: Misc
* Encumbrance: 0

This small, round, silver token (aptly described as a coin) is devoid of any markings.

The coin, which Rithwyra has said will help to bring you good fortune, glitters quite unnaturally.

Anyone have any thoughts? Can anyone without one of these confirm this?

Doolipalally

04-15-2010, 10:28 AM

Do you have your Ice Shield yet?

EDIT: Sorry - just seen your CHR post, so I guess the answer's 'no'! The glitter will become clear later, and no, it's not to do with the Luck Coin.

Lightwielder

04-15-2010, 10:58 AM

Do you have your Ice Shield yet?

EDIT: Sorry - just seen your CHR post, so I guess the answer's 'no'! The glitter will become clear later, and no, it's not to do with the Luck Coin.

Hmm, okay. Works for me. I figured I might as well throw my observation out there, in case it did have merit.

Thanks.

Oldschool

04-15-2010, 11:54 PM

Well....

All that glitters is not cold or is it..... :rolleyes:

Meduwyn

04-18-2010, 08:35 AM

Well....

All that glitters is not cold or is it..... :rolleyes:

LMAO Oldschool :D

scout1idf

04-23-2010, 06:22 AM

Allura just finished run #2 and survived with little trouble (had to rest a lot though). She couldn't get the xp for using magic against the Troll since none of her powers are to level 70 yet but she got the Archery reward.

I have no clue when she made her 1st run but according to the Wiki when I checked the text description, it was run #2.

Maybe by this time next year, she'll have her ice shield.....