View Full Version : Proving Grounds VI: The Alder Throne
MrBlack
07-03-2009, 05:10 AM
The Ghost Patrol is now live.
And might I say a great reward at the end and a mighty beast to battle.
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Here is the link from the old forum for info on the the first parts of this PG.
http://shadowwolf47.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=talk&thread=4093&page=1
zmflavius
07-03-2009, 03:07 PM
finished it, slew that monstrosity at the end, but it was 17+ to hit for me at 146 MR.
thingirl
07-03-2009, 03:19 PM
Starting now. In regards to the last few scenarios, WAAH OWL!!!!! And Pryond isn't really dead, it just seems that way.
EDIT: That's wired the monster was 18+ for me @ MR 151. I used 1 QS heal, the wand, and 1 finger, and when I wasn't using an item, I was using Elementalism.
MrBlack
07-03-2009, 07:49 PM
I wonder what happend to anyone who didn't drink the elixer.
billydakid
07-03-2009, 08:21 PM
I got lucky. I defeated the monster without even suffering a scratch. I used regular combat on him. I was wondering the same thing. what happened to those who didn't drink the elixor?
Ka keng
07-04-2009, 05:30 AM
The combat experience is very good.
Joddelle
07-04-2009, 10:25 AM
for those of you wanting a general difficulty level...
the main fight is 9+ at MR 180
zmflavius
07-04-2009, 01:31 PM
But all the other fights are much easier. He was 17+ for me, but I just used powers.
spencer
07-04-2009, 02:21 PM
I just want to take the time to commend the GM on his exceptional writing in this adventure. The story was very good and it read like a novel. Very, very good.
solitu
07-05-2009, 04:06 AM
Yeah this series is really epic and I wonder if the GM has added some Matrix reference here...:rolleyes:
Also, this series is probably one that has the most casualties ever...
thingirl
07-05-2009, 04:48 PM
Yes, it does, Let's see, off the top of my head, Unleri's catmatok (it deserved to die), the dude @ Bearpath Lodge (sorry, cant remember his name), all those Rangers, Owl...
And like I said, PYROND ISN'T DEAD! Well he is, but all is not what It seems on Sarngad Isle.
zmflavius
07-05-2009, 04:58 PM
Yes, it does, Let's see, off the top of my head, Unleri's catmatok (it deserved to die), the dude @ Bearpath Lodge (sorry, cant remember his name), all those Rangers, Owl...
And like I said, PYROND ISN'T DEAD! Well he is, but all is not what It seems on Sarngad Isle.
How did Unleri's catamarok die again? I kinda forgot.
thingirl
07-05-2009, 09:12 PM
I think a big troll ate it, not sure though. It through me off of it's back, so I don't feel any sympathy.
solitu
07-06-2009, 02:10 AM
Yes, it does, Let's see, off the top of my head, Unleri's catmatok (it deserved to die), the dude @ Bearpath Lodge (sorry, cant remember his name), all those Rangers, Owl...
Well actually it's neither a catamarok nor a takabak, but a chotarik.... but whatever:rolleyes:
And don't forget the dozens of bodies in the abandoned jail...(I failed the check so many times that I suspect I killed more than a hundred undead there):cool:
cjhelmick
07-06-2009, 08:24 PM
Is the Proving Grounds VI available to everyone? I don't see it.
acebrock
07-06-2009, 08:31 PM
Have you completed the quests on Saarngard Isle yet?
cjhelmick
07-06-2009, 09:46 PM
Everything that i know of except for luriakan looking for something and the tangled bog, still looking for those.
zmflavius
07-06-2009, 10:16 PM
Luriakan's quest isn't neccessary but heavily advised. The tangled bog is a requisite.
cjhelmick
07-06-2009, 10:19 PM
Thanks, I'll keep looking.
Falineera
07-30-2009, 02:40 PM
I finished the ghost patrol, but I didn't fight any big monster at the end. I drank the elixir, blew up the wagons, it said completed on the quest but now I can't do anything else. What did I miss!
Doolipalally
07-30-2009, 02:54 PM
I finished the ghost patrol, but I didn't fight any big monster at the end. I drank the elixir, blew up the wagons, it said completed on the quest but now I can't do anything else. What did I miss!
The Ghost Patrol is the last part of PG VI that's currently available. We're still waiting for the next instalment.
smv1973
07-30-2009, 06:00 PM
I finished the ghost patrol, but I didn't fight any big monster at the end. I drank the elixir, blew up the wagons, it said completed on the quest but now I can't do anything else. What did I miss!
PG VI is still in the works and I think a long way from being done. Don't worry I am sure the GM will have some big monsters and or people to fight by the end of the PG.
zmflavius
07-31-2009, 05:52 AM
PG VI is still in the works and I think a long way from being done. Don't worry I am sure the GM will have some big monsters and or people to fight by the end of the PG.
Right now, it almost certainly will be the Sorcerer Lord or Thane Mazembak.
thingirl
07-31-2009, 03:04 PM
IMHO, is is only slightly possible that it's Mazembak we'll fight. Because of some stuff Owl said. And we WILL light the Sorcerer Lord.
hrafnkel
08-08-2009, 09:40 AM
With regards to "The Path to Kardsen - Part 2", can someone help me out with the lever situation?
Doolipalally
08-08-2009, 10:45 AM
With regards to "The Path to Kardsen - Part 2", can someone help me out with the lever situation?
Could you remind me of the context? It's been a while since I did that part.
solitu
08-08-2009, 11:03 AM
With regards to "The Path to Kardsen - Part 2", can someone help me out with the lever situation?
"There are three levers somewhere in here," he says. "I know that two of them need to be 'up', while the other must be 'down'. Which are to be up and which down, alas, I cannot say. Those three levers will release the sealed doors..."
"Which should be up" is probably randomized, so you have to do some trial and error.
psychoadept
08-08-2009, 09:42 PM
"There are three levers somewhere in here," he says. "I know that two of them need to be 'up', while the other must be 'down'. Which are to be up and which down, alas, I cannot say. Those three levers will release the sealed doors..."
"Which should be up" is probably randomized, so you have to do some trial and error.
I thought it was that the ones at the bottom of the map were up, and the top of the map was down.
racey
08-08-2009, 09:45 PM
I thought it was that the ones at the bottom of the map were up, and the top of the map was down.
You are correct.
shadowblack
09-28-2009, 06:44 PM
So, any trace of "A Seer in Shadow" yet? It's been half a month since it was last mentioned in the news (last time was on the 13th September, to be exact), and the Tome of Attainment is supposed to ba available after "A Seer in Shadow" goes live, so...
P.S.: Sorry if someone got excited after seeing a new post in this topic only to get disappointed after reading it...
thingirl
09-28-2009, 06:57 PM
I just assumed that somebody needed help. Ah, you're trying to jinx it. OK, I can live with that ;)
Doolipalally
09-30-2009, 12:23 PM
No sign of it yet.
(I'm hoping I'll say that and then it'll appear!)
paladin
09-30-2009, 02:32 PM
Well especially since the GM's sense of time tends to be wildly different from our own. Soon could mean anything from a few days to a month or more. But I can at least be greatful for the fact that gone are the days when more often than not we'd go six months or longer without even a small update. There were times when I and others were seriously considering not renewing our AG subscriptions. But the GM will continue to get twenty bucks a year from me so long as the quality continues. I've said it before and I'll say it again. I firmly believe that our GM could probably make an excellent fantasy novelist if he chose to try his hand.
thingirl
09-30-2009, 02:43 PM
Yes, he could. But then we wouldn't have this nice game to play. Probably.
paladin
09-30-2009, 07:30 PM
Yes, he could. But then we wouldn't have this nice game to play. Probably.
Yeah. And this is the most blind accessible such game I've ever played, not to mention the most addicting.
thingirl
10-01-2009, 03:27 PM
Finally!!!!! 10/1/09 - the proving grounds continues
the latest proving grounds adventure (the alder throne) will continue on 10/5 with a revealing scenario entitled "a seer in shadow".
This scenario, which will at last make plain the dreadful nature of the growing peril that has shadowed you from the shores of saarngard isle, will start you on a swift and dangerous journey toward adventure's fateful conclusion.
"a seer in shadow" will be followed by "the chasm of time".
paladin
10-01-2009, 03:45 PM
Finally!!!!!
This Monday then. Hopefully the GM won't be plagued with last-minute bugs this time as he was with Heir to the Flame. And hopefully my preparations will be enough to see me through with my not-quite-perfect score intact.
thingirl
10-01-2009, 04:09 PM
I've still got 2 Bells.
paladin
10-01-2009, 07:41 PM
I've still got 2 Bells.
That wasn't entirely what I meant. I had to make a few donations in order to buy some gear from Tallys' to up my Stamina and, as an added bonus, my MR, a little bit. And then I remembered I'd still got Megnun's Warblade in storage, having put it there so I could get the bonus from Tarn for the SSL. Then I just forgot about it for months. I've noticed, however, that not only is its SP bonus better than the SSL's but its special attack seems to show up more often than any other weapon I've wielded.
thingirl
10-01-2009, 08:12 PM
I don't mean to sound rude, but: Of course it's better. It's a high-end Tallys sword.
paladin
10-01-2009, 10:05 PM
I don't mean to sound rude, but: Of course it's better. It's a high-end Tallys sword.
Yep, about as high-end as you can get...unless of course the Sword of Merzekk surpasses it in some way. And given all that's needed to go through to obtain it it durn well better be, whether in terms of MR, SP or some other attribute. Maybe it'll have an MR boost against specific creatures like demons, undead or whatnot that'll make it worthwhile even if its primary boost isn't quite as good. If that's the case it just means I'll have 400+ more adventurer tokens to use for...other stuff. In the meanwhile I guess we just have to get through the PG and whatever else may be happening on Saarngard Isle. Personally I'm hoping we'll have the chance to flip the Grand Sentry a nice stiff finger if you take my meaning. I'll reserve judgment about Thane Mazembak for the moment until we learn more about his involvement in all this.
thingirl
10-01-2009, 10:17 PM
I would use the Wand first. It doesn't have a backlash. Mazembak... Well, he might be good, but considering what his throne is...
But I'm leaning towards him being an ally disguised as an enemy.
zmflavius
10-01-2009, 11:58 PM
Yep, about as high-end as you can get...unless of course the Sword of Merzekk surpasses it in some way. And given all that's needed to go through to obtain it it durn well better be, whether in terms of MR, SP or some other attribute. Maybe it'll have an MR boost against specific creatures like demons, undead or whatnot that'll make it worthwhile even if its primary boost isn't quite as good. If that's the case it just means I'll have 400+ more adventurer tokens to use for...other stuff. In the meanwhile I guess we just have to get through the PG and whatever else may be happening on Saarngard Isle. Personally I'm hoping we'll have the chance to flip the Grand Sentry a nice stiff finger if you take my meaning. I'll reserve judgment about Thane Mazembak for the moment until we learn more about his involvement in all this.
The Sword of Merzekk probably won't need a lot to get through unless there's a ridiculously hard quest for the final third gem (though that may very well happen). It just seems like it's ridiculously hard because it's been 5 years in the making. However, I believe it almost certainly will have a bonus against demons, because, doesn't the expanded info describe it with
"Merzekk is a legendary knight and warrior, whose magical sword is said to have had the ability to slay demons. Merzekk was the first leader of a brotherhood of Tysian knights known as The Order of The Protector. The legend of Merzekk tells of three magical gems that gave his sword unearthly power. Before he died, Merzekk is said to have removed the gems from his sword to ensure that its power could never be used for evil. Although he scattered the gems across the realms, he supposedly left clues to their secret locations behind. "
whose magical sword is said to have had the ability to slay demons
Bonus vs. Demons
three magical gems
three cloudy blue gemstones
removed the gems from his sword
Hence, the rusty sword
its power could never be used for evil
If evil could use the power, it clearly was probably a very powerful sword even minus the gems.
he supposedly left clues to their secret locations behind
The Tablet of Merzekk, I presume.
Elrond
10-02-2009, 02:03 AM
Wow, 4 more days before the update's initial launch! I just hope it is as awesome as the last few scenario's in this PG. And I hope that it is not followed by Chasm of Time; but by the Tome of Attainment ;)
paladin
10-02-2009, 12:32 PM
Wow, 4 more days before the update's initial launch! I just hope it is as awesome as the last few scenario's in this PG. And I hope that it is not followed by Chasm of Time; but by the Tome of Attainment ;)
Well the GM did say that the tome would appear after A Seer in SHadows and not after A Chasm of Time. My guess is it'll be right smack dab in between them.
psychoadept
10-02-2009, 02:17 PM
I'm betting the GM is planning to finish PG VI by the end of the year. Whether he actually accomplishes it is another matter.
thingirl
10-02-2009, 02:36 PM
Well, there can't be too many scenarios left. Lets see: 1 to find Pyrond, 1 to fght the Mage, 1 to finish getting ready to fight the Mage, And one or 2 about Mazembak. There might be more, but I can't think of anything.
spencer
10-02-2009, 05:43 PM
Well, there can't be too many scenarios left. Lets see: 1 to find Pyrond, 1 to fght the Mage, 1 to finish getting ready to fight the Mage, And one or 2 about Mazembak. There might be more, but I can't think of anything.
3 to get ready now go, Cat, go!!
thingirl
10-02-2009, 05:44 PM
3 to get ready now go, Cat, go!!
What in the WORLD does that mean?:confused::confused:?
smv1973
10-02-2009, 05:53 PM
Well, there can't be too many scenarios left. Lets see: 1 to find Pyrond, 1 to fght the Mage, 1 to finish getting ready to fight the Mage, And one or 2 about Mazembak. There might be more, but I can't think of anything.
There is also the Platinum Star Coins. There are still 2 left to be found.
thingirl
10-02-2009, 05:54 PM
Oh yeah. Repped for reminding me.
spencer
10-02-2009, 06:26 PM
What in the WORLD does that mean?:confused::confused:?
Sorry, thingirl, I was poking a little fun...there is a 50's song, that starts out
One for the money
Two for the show
Three to get ready
and four to go!!
there is another line in the song later that is substituted in for the last line and it is "Now, go, Cat, go!!"
For some reason, your post reminded me of the song.
Edit: the song is , duh, Blue Suede Shoes and it was go man go that was changed to go cat go!
Here is the link if anyone is at all interested:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Suede_Shoes
thingirl
10-02-2009, 06:30 PM
What a weird song. Anyway, to get back on topic:
I think that The Mage has one of the Star Coins and that Mazembek has the other. Just a thought...
Elrond
10-02-2009, 09:22 PM
We're in for another (at least) 6 - 10 scenario's. All other PG's were 20+ scenario's. And I expect this one to be longer.
paladin
10-02-2009, 09:31 PM
We're in for another (at least) 6 - 10 scenario's. All other PG's were 20+ scenario's. And I expect this one to be longer.
More like twenty-seven actually, maybe even thirty in some cases. So whether or not the GM actually finishes before the end of the year is just going to remain one of Sryth's mysteries.
texlaw1992
10-06-2009, 05:58 AM
Thingirl pointed me to the right forum, so I'll have to take my two (so far) losses in Alder Throne and live with them (those elementals at "Funeral in the Hills" clobbered me the first time out). I am caught up to "A Seer in Shadow" now.
I fled from the flame serpent in "Ghost Patrol" - didn't feel like getting zapped by more fire creatures. Fortunately those fire elementals were far less difficult than the ones in "Funeral."
Has anyone thought that Thane Mzembrek (sp?) and the Sorcerer Lord might be the same person/entity? I guess we'll find out.
By the way, "Blue Suede Shoes" is not just any song from the 50s - it's Elvis!
Anyone else completed "The Seer in Shadow"? (it is live, by the way)
Ka keng
10-06-2009, 07:45 AM
I have. I wonder about the repititons thought. All opponents were +3 to hit with 171 MR
Doolipalally
10-06-2009, 08:27 AM
I got the feeling this episode was more about moving the story on than anything else. Which is fine by me - I like the way the story's going! Nice to have a few answers, even if they're vague at the moment, and the mysterious repetitions were intriguing...
Kruck
10-06-2009, 10:55 AM
They were all 3 + at 168 mr too.
I thought hmm never know whats gunna happen il save some NVR and try and dodge the flame, i rolled a 1 flame hit me for 104 SP oh and from there out of combat healing is unavailable. Luckily my remaining 50 HP were enough for the remaining battles so I didnt have to use my Quickstone heal.
Im guessing start of next encounter will be the fight to the death with the witch.
I now have all 7 coins in my posession and have returned to saargard isle then to the smoking hill and you cant use the coins and she still says return when you have all 7, im guessing that the tent should now be empty as you have the coins for a reason to open the gate of time.
zmflavius
10-06-2009, 12:17 PM
gahhh...time travel really confuses me...
well, at least we have the coins now.
edit: by the way, despite the fact that we have all the PLS, the smoking hill remains the same.
paladin
10-06-2009, 02:37 PM
gahhh...time travel really confuses me...
well, at least we have the coins now.
edit: by the way, despite the fact that we have all the PLS, the smoking hill remains the same.
This nameless entity rather reminds me of the Cleaners or the Avatars from the TV show Charmed. Both entities had the power to bend time and space and rewrite history. The Cleaners were there to cover up incidents where magic was exposed by either rewriting the events or erasing the memories of those involved. The Avatars had the power to rewrite time and also to remove people from existence, which they did if someone created conflict in their perceived Utopia. That's what this nameless entity reminds me of.
thingirl
10-06-2009, 05:33 PM
Is this a typo or is it supposed to add suspense? You ask her what the final stage entails.
You ask the seer what the final stage entails.
Kruck
10-06-2009, 06:12 PM
This nameless entity rather reminds me of the Cleaners or the Avatars from the TV show Charmed. Both entities had the power to bend time and space and rewrite history. The Cleaners were there to cover up incidents where magic was exposed by either rewriting the events or erasing the memories of those involved. The Avatars had the power to rewrite time and also to remove people from existence, which they did if someone created conflict in their perceived Utopia. That's what this nameless entity reminds me of.
Lol it kinda reminds me of the Nameless god in the Raymond E Feist Books..
psychoadept
10-06-2009, 06:22 PM
Is this a typo or is it supposed to add suspense? You ask her what the final stage entails.
You ask the seer what the final stage entails.
I wondered that, too. Repetition of something's that already a repetition seems like overkill.
Daffanka
10-06-2009, 07:19 PM
I think at least some of it was intentional due to the Time travel/you've already died several times at various points thing.
Really excited as to where this thing is heading.
spencer
10-06-2009, 07:23 PM
Again, kudos to our illustrious GM for an amazingly well-written storyline.
Glowworm
10-06-2009, 08:39 PM
THe cliffhanger confused me-especially because I felt that I had just been tricked into opening the portal too soon by a certain mask wearing witch disguised as the seer's servant(hence the feminine voice) and also-unless it has to do with the fact that timetravel is taking place-I could have sworn that that last with was dead-unless she somehow escaped her fate because it never specified that she was dead.
All I can say is here to a wibbly wobbly timey wimey adventure!
paladin
10-06-2009, 08:53 PM
I just had an interesting thought. What if this nameless entity is the same creature that summoned the Undead in PG3? Both were nameless and we don't know the full extent of the powers of the being that assaulted Stonegate. Not only that, but the protector, Silverfoot I believe his name was, presumably committed suicide to preventhimself being possessed by the thing.
Elrond
10-06-2009, 08:54 PM
I felt that I read a novel before entering my first combat in the Seer! It didn't make me feel good that I died 7 times in the past in that one place! Now it seems that I can go back in time and undoe my death.
Interesting bit of information is that when I do come back and complete the mission, the world will be different. Some friends will be enemies, some powerful people will not be powerful, and the people in power will be different. That made me wonder if a certain Citadel in Talinus will be added to my list of residences ;) .
thingirl
10-06-2009, 09:00 PM
I just had a thought. I died 7 times and someone had to go back in time to save me. What happened to Runes of Life?
EDIT: I just realized. Using a RoL is like time travel.
Joddelle
10-06-2009, 09:04 PM
Maybe it was in the old forum, but wasn't there a discussion about time travel and runes of life?
The actual verbage of runes seems to indicate they work on the time-travel principle...
Also, this PG is upping-up to become my favorite Sryth adventure. I can't wait to take my secondary through it all at once to get the story all together!
Havoc
10-06-2009, 09:32 PM
When you do, can you check something for me?
I think in one of the recaps, the sorceress said that ravenbone was just incidental, but in one of the 'current' texts, she says that it's actually central to the events taking place.
That said, I like the direction the GM has taken with this PG, and it should allow a decent shake-up in the world of Sryth.
billydakid
10-06-2009, 09:34 PM
Ok i'm really upset. My friends I worked so hard to get won't remember me after I come back from going through the gate. Dam what's the point of making friends if I'll be all alone again. Dang the Gm is taking my friends away lol. I'll be a nobody again they won't know of my great accomplishments.
Joddelle
10-06-2009, 09:40 PM
Not to mention that cute horseman on Saarngard, or poor Cierna on Penekarn Lane! Who will woo me now?
Elrond
10-06-2009, 09:51 PM
Ok i'm really upset. My friends I worked so hard to get won't remember me after I come back from going through the gate. Dam what's the point of making friends if I'll be all alone again. Dang the Gm is taking my friends away lol. I'll be a nobody again they won't know of my great accomplishments.
Not to mention that cute horseman on Saarngard, or poor Cierna on Penekarn Lane! Who will woo me now?
Bah ... talking about friends and lovers when world domination is at stake here! Muahahahahaha
zmflavius
10-06-2009, 09:54 PM
There's just one question I have to ask...
Most of you seem to be of the opinion that if we go back in time and alter it, we will create an alternate reality that replaces or coexists with the original one (like in Star Trek the movie).
How do you know that we aren't already feeling the repercussions of our time traveling and that in fact, we only need to travel through time in order to preserve our current existence (like in Artemis Fowl: The Time Paradox, for those of you whom have read it).
Elrond
10-06-2009, 10:04 PM
There's just one question I have to ask...
Most of you seem to be of the opinion that if we go back in time and alter it, we will create an alternate reality that replaces or coexists with the original one (like in Star Trek the movie).
How do you know that we aren't already feeling the repercussions of our time traveling and that in fact, we only need to travel through time in order to preserve our current existence (like in Artemis Fowl: The Time Paradox, for those of you whom have read it).
To make a long story short, the reply is: "Because the adventure said so!" :D
billydakid
10-06-2009, 10:45 PM
Ohhh!!! I just thought of something terrible. if thane P is still alive what happens to our home at the keep if he doesn't remember us?? He won't let us in no more. /me goes to a corner to cry.
thingirl
10-06-2009, 10:47 PM
Not likely, unless another way to Saarngard is provided (like Admire Cove).
zmflavius
10-06-2009, 10:48 PM
To make a long story short, the reply is: "Because the adventure said so!" :D
It did?
psychoadept
10-06-2009, 10:49 PM
Well, we still have plenty of time to get all our stuff moved to our residences... I seriously doubt the GM would make them go away. But I am really curious about this change in the timeline. I wonder if there's something in particular that the GM is trying to retcon?
Joddelle
10-06-2009, 10:58 PM
I don't think it is a matter of retcon so much as what he's planned all along. Remember, Sryth is at the dawn of a new age, and that age is by all accounts supposed to be a dark one indeed.
It's only though the efforts of heroes like <insert your character name here> that things even stay bearable for the common folk.
This would be a great question for the GM - did he start the game with a plot outline (in broad strokes anyway) and if so, how close is the main story-arc following that original outline?
thingirl
10-06-2009, 10:58 PM
I wanna be friends with Rokkie. Maybe save Owl and Thane Pyrond?
EDIT: Joddelle, you type fast ;) That's a good point.
Elrond
10-06-2009, 10:59 PM
It did?
Yes it did. That is how I understood it.
We go back in time and replace the first journal in the kid's hand with a children's storybook. That way, we cut off the whole process from start before the enemy learns to go back in time to alter stuff. With that we destroy the unnamed enemies efforts in our world.
I also remember a warning from the Seer that I should prepare myself for a changed world when I come back; that some who I consider friends today might be hostile after the mission; that people who are powerful might not be so powerful; etc.....
But we need others to confirm that this is the right understanding of the adventure text.
Maybe save Owl and Thane Pyrond?
I think that the whole point of the mission is to go back in time and alter a critical point so that the whole thing doesn't evolve in the future. Owl would be a farmer or bard; as there won't be a rabble anyways.
thingirl
10-06-2009, 11:04 PM
He could be an adventurer. And that's how I interpreted the text too.
Elrond
10-06-2009, 11:11 PM
He could be an adventurer.
He could be an adventurer, highwayman, border ranger, farmer, carpenter, peasant, etc.... But he would not be Owl; because "Owl" as a title, profession, and circumstances of meeting are a product of the evil and the rabble's work against it. After the mission that would all be gone.
There won't be any Owl after the mission! Or so I understand anyways.
zmflavius
10-06-2009, 11:13 PM
Well, then in that case...
If I know time travel, then this won't work properly.
Elrond
10-06-2009, 11:15 PM
Well, then in that case...
If I know time travel, then this won't work properly.
Lol ... All it needs to work is the GM's writing to say so. Time travel in Sryth does not have to conform with any previously written stuff on the concept.
And my personal opinion on time travel is that it should work. Say someone goes back in time and changes the result of, say, Battle of Gettysburg in the American Civil War. All subsequent developments would be altered. History would be rewritten.
Joddelle
10-06-2009, 11:26 PM
Say someone goes back in time and...
That is a pretty big 'given'!
Elrond
10-06-2009, 11:28 PM
That is a pretty big 'given'!
Agreed! Sryth is even a bigger "given!"
psychoadept
10-06-2009, 11:39 PM
All subsequent developments would be altered. History would be rewritten.
And thus the time travel paradox... if everything is different, then no one goes back and changes things, therefore it happens the way it originally did...
thingirl
10-06-2009, 11:41 PM
Ah. But the evil evil be destroyed. Destroyed as in gone and not coming back. But I see your point.
racey
10-06-2009, 11:45 PM
When you do, can you check something for me?
I think in one of the recaps, the sorceress said that ravenbone was just incidental, but in one of the 'current' texts, she says that it's actually central to the events taking place.
That said, I like the direction the GM has taken with this PG, and it should allow a decent shake-up in the world of Sryth.
Recap- She tells you that while ravenbone is connected with it, it is only incidental to the core of the secret that has long rested in obscurity on the treacherous shores of the isle.
Current- "It lies at the heart of this matter," she says, "for it is a substance unaffected by the passage of time. It is rare indeed beyond the bounds of this reality, and so it is sought by our enemy's agents. We have our own allies in place, though, Trent, so for the present we need not worry about such things."
zmflavius
10-07-2009, 12:02 AM
Well, then in that case...
If I know time travel, then this won't work properly.
Lol ... All it needs to work is the GM's writing to say so. Time travel in Sryth does not have to conform with any previously written stuff on the concept.
And my personal opinion on time travel is that it should work. Say someone goes back in time and changes the result of, say, Battle of Gettysburg in the American Civil War. All subsequent developments would be altered. History would be rewritten.
Yes, but what I meant when I said that was that instead of altering things for the better, it will only make it worse.
thingirl
10-07-2009, 12:10 AM
True. Like in an episode of Phineias and Ferb (yes, I watch it) Future Candace goes back in time and busts the boys, but because the helicopter that Perry was useing to defeat Doofensmerts got redirected, Doofensmerts got away it was a horrible future with no creativity allowed. So, she goes back and stops herself from busting them and it goes back to normal.
billydakid
10-07-2009, 02:15 AM
all I know is I hope the next part of this story comes out real soon. I wanna beat up that witch and get to that gate.
Aeryl Silverheels
10-07-2009, 01:58 PM
Kudos to the DM for the well-executed Matrix references! I kept expecting a black cat to wander by during one of the bouts of deja vu... :cool:
Glowworm
10-07-2009, 02:18 PM
True. Like in an episode of Phineias and Ferb (yes, I watch it) Future Candace goes back in time and busts the boys, but because the helicopter that Perry was useing to defeat Doofensmerts got redirected, Doofensmerts got away it was a horrible future with no creativity allowed. So, she goes back and stops herself from busting them and it goes back to normal.
Nah, my boyfriend watches this show-and I get into it sometimes as well. He told me of that episode, I was definately thinking of that-and Dr.Who when this plot showed up.
Joddelle
10-07-2009, 10:16 PM
What powers have people used in this scenario?
I thought I'd collect the text from one we don't yet have...
I'm pretty sure most used Shadow Magic? I think I'll try Elementalism. Your use of Elementalism has succeeded...
XP +16 You've been awarded a total of 16 Experience...
16 xp applied to Elementalism...
You call upon your power of elementalism and focus it on the hurtling bolt of flame.
The arc of fire flares brightly for a split second before rapidly fading to little more than a smouldering ember that bounces harmlessly off your chest.
Having survived the deadly attack unscathed, you prepare to move toward the door, eager to prevent the possibility of a second blast...
Please continue...
racey
10-07-2009, 11:07 PM
Went to Saarngard Isle after completing a Seer in Shadow. You can do absolutely nothing there now except for Visit the Keep...
Saarngard Keep
The once-grand keep is currently undergoing a massive reconstruction as part of the effort to reclaim Saarngard Isle for the Kingdom of Tysa. (read more)
Enter Saarngard Keep... (info)
Nearby Locations
None
Travel Elsewhere
None
thingirl
10-07-2009, 11:11 PM
Nice catch- repped.
Joddelle
10-08-2009, 12:27 AM
I see the GM fixed the continuity issue with being able to visit the Jagged Hills.
billydakid
10-08-2009, 01:53 AM
Thats because we have to beat up witchy before we can go to the gate and use our coins. all I know is i'm glad to be rid of those dang journels. Gm if your out there reading can you pleaaaaaaase do the next part of the pg this weekend lol. I wanna do the next part soooo baaaad lol.
thingirl
10-08-2009, 01:56 AM
BDK, you use LOL way to much. And you apparently have less patience than me. (And I hate waiting.)
Elrond
10-08-2009, 02:00 AM
BDK, you use LOL way to much. (And I hate waiting.)
;) Is that conclusion based on average usage of "Lol" or total number of uses of the abbreviation? :D
spencer
10-08-2009, 02:46 AM
Does anyone think it is possible that the next installment could be the concluding chapter to this PG? I know it will then have less chapters than previous PG's, but the name implies it could be the final challenge, so to speak.
zmflavius
10-08-2009, 02:52 AM
Does anyone think it is possible that the next installment could be the concluding chapter to this PG? I know it will then have less chapters than previous PG's, but the name implies it could be the final challenge, so to speak.
I seriously doubt it. I'm pretty sure that our meddling in time won't solve the problem, and we'll have to fix our mess-up in order to complete the PG.
Joddelle
10-08-2009, 03:23 AM
I wouldn't go by chapter count. PG-V only had 2 "Chapters," though there were lots of scenes in Chapter 2.
billydakid
10-08-2009, 03:58 AM
Ok TG I love to laugh a lot. it's good for you LOL. lmao at TG I couldn't resist doing that to you. I'm a person who doesn't take themself serious and loves to laugh as well as make others. Maybe my patience is short but its just like your watching a movie and they put to be continued up there. Your just like nooooo! I wanna see what happens next. Well we're in that area of the pg now. I wouldn't be surprised if we're at the end of the pg. Guess we'll all have to wait and see.
thingirl
10-08-2009, 01:46 PM
I thought LOL stood for "Laugh out loud".
And it seems like that, but in almost every time-travel show/movie/episode, there is a problem, the main character goes back in time to fix it, then comes back and finds that the present is worse than it was. I think that we will have to kill the kid to complete the mission, but our character-
-Ah hem, Thingirl, why don't I take over this?
Fine, Alanne.
Yes, I said that I won't kill the kid, even if I don't get the journal. I will probably have to kill him to complete my mission, but I know I wont-
-Unless you don't have a choice.
:rolleyes:. Anyway, but I won't kill him. So the mission will fail and I'll return, but the future will be worse off than when I left, so there will be another scenario to fix it.
paladin
10-08-2009, 02:41 PM
I thought LOL stood for "Laugh out loud".
And it seems like that, but in almost every time-travel show/movie/episode, there is a problem, the main character goes back in time to fix it, then comes back and finds that the present is worse than it was. I think that we will have to kill the kid to complete the mission, but our character-
-Ah hem, Thingirl, why don't I take over this?
Fine, Alanne.
Yes, I said that I won't kill the kid, even if I don't get the journal. I will probably have to kill him to complete my mission, but I know I wont-
-Unless you don't have a choice.
:rolleyes:. Anyway, but I won't kill him. So the mission will fail and I'll return, but the future will be worse off than when I left, so there will be another scenario to fix it.
I doubt it'll be the end. Even if we don't mess up the timeline, we'll probably still have to flip the Grand Sentry a stiff finger to bring a permanent end to his threat. Then I guess it's back to Saarngard. I bet the last piece to the puzzle of the Sword of Merzekk, or more clues to same, will be found there.
thingirl
10-08-2009, 02:48 PM
But she said that those in power won't necessarily be in power anymore. And I hope the final gem-stone will be found there.
OK, random thought. What if we have to use the Sword to defeat the grand Sentry?
Kruck
10-08-2009, 02:57 PM
Maybe when we get back we will be able to replay our fave quests again because in the new timeline we havent already done them lol... Maybe i can get some nimble boots this time round :P
thingirl
10-08-2009, 02:58 PM
That would be interesting. But probably not. And I'd like some Nimble Boots too :)
paladin
10-08-2009, 04:47 PM
That would be interesting. But probably not. And I'd like some Nimble Boots too :)
We'll find out one way or the other whenever this scenario comes out. Me, I'm betting it won't be anything like what we're speculating. The GM's pulled that trick with us before.
billydakid
10-08-2009, 06:25 PM
TG lol does mean laugh out loud and I was laughing out loud. also it kind of means your just kidding like when I said I was hoping the GM would have the next adventure for the pg this weekend,although I'd love it if he had it this weekend I don't expect it, so my statment was something to the effect GM if your reading this could you have the next adventure in the pg this weekend lol. so I was laughing out loud because I was kidding and didn't expect it out this weekend but it would be nice so I laughed because it was a joke. comprende?
Kruck
10-08-2009, 07:43 PM
We'll find out one way or the other whenever this scenario comes out. Me, I'm betting it won't be anything like what we're speculating. The GM's pulled that trick with us before.
In which case we will change the future and when we come back we will find the evil overlord of the world is ourselves and we have to kill ourselves.. then we could choose to replace him as evil overlord extrodinaire or be a goody two shoes and make the people happy...
paladin
10-08-2009, 08:11 PM
In which case we will change the future and when we come back we will find the evil overlord of the world is ourselves and we have to kill ourselves.. then we could choose to replace him as evil overlord extrodinaire or be a goody two shoes and make the people happy...
Or maybe Thane Mazembak will be king.
Hastifer
10-08-2009, 08:14 PM
Nah. Ever notice that you never see Rynduil & the King in the same place at the same time?
Like Superman & Clark Kent.
Um...
thingirl
10-08-2009, 10:15 PM
Oh yeah, I wonder if Rinduil and Halanne will come back? I hope they do.
Yeah, me too. And not just because Halanne's name difffers from mine by only one letter.
paladin
10-09-2009, 01:37 AM
Nah. Ever notice that you never see Rynduil & the King in the same place at the same time?
Like Superman & Clark Kent.
Um...
Somehow I don't think Rynduil is the king. If that were true he couldn't have given us the job of hunting down those Twin Blades because he's off looking for whatshisface in that Nevernal realm.
billydakid
10-09-2009, 11:01 AM
hmm since I saved the world or you saved the world, seems to me we should be named King. Afterall they may not remember our previous accomplishments but heck they should remember this one.
zmflavius
10-09-2009, 12:11 PM
I quote:
It is forbidden by law for Tysian Thanes and Tysian monarchs to possess magical abilities.
Source (http://www.sryth.com/ci.php?f_c=showinfo.inc&f_infoid=mazembak)
paladin
10-09-2009, 12:14 PM
I quote:
It is forbidden by law for Tysian Thanes and Tysian monarchs to possess magical abilities.
Source (http://www.sryth.com/ci.php?f_c=showinfo.inc&f_infoid=mazembak)
I wonder who made that law. Could have been a Tysian king of long ago or maybe even Srythac himself.
Hastifer
10-09-2009, 01:00 PM
And what army is going to enforce that law? The hero has killed thousands of foes, singlehandedly...
I guess Hurenon could enforce that law. Nevermind.
billydakid
10-09-2009, 09:40 PM
Plus everything is susposed to change in the world ,so seeing as everything is susposed to change who says that this will be a law now. Afterall we are changeing the coarse of history. So we should be able to be king/thanes.
paladin
10-09-2009, 09:47 PM
Plus everything is susposed to change in the world ,so seeing as everything is susposed to change who says that this will be a law now. Afterall we are changeing the coarse of history. So we should be able to be king/thanes.
Of course it probably won't be anything like that. The GM's often thrown us curveballs like that in the past. When it was announced after the main Runeskin adventures were completed that we would be able to acquire a new, never-before-seen magical discipline, the speculation was quite intense as I recall. And I don't recall anyone coming close to what we got. And as far as I'm concerned what we got was far cooler than all of our ideas. I'll bet that's what happens here. The outcome is probably going to be far different than what we're speculating, although I'll grant that in the past people have come close to the mark with their guesses. Havoc was after all headed in generally the right direction with his thinking about the Tome of Attainment.
Beowulf
10-10-2009, 06:20 AM
Whew. Just tried first run at it. Failed bolt of flame test (glasses must have thought shadow magic could work). Took 165dmg. Survived with 1, and started restoring before thinking of quoting...>_>;
Compliments to the GM; I like it. Prolly should be in the bragging column, but w/e. ^^
Daffanka
10-10-2009, 08:54 AM
Plus everything is susposed to change in the world ,so seeing as everything is susposed to change who says that this will be a law now. Afterall we are changeing the coarse of history. So we should be able to be king/thanes.
Keep in mind that there's still quite a bit of adventure ahead of us. I wouldn't be surprised if, by the end of it, everything is still the same, because I doubt the GM is willing to rewrite basically every adventure to fit the new reality.
paladin
10-10-2009, 01:29 PM
Keep in mind that there's still quite a bit of adventure ahead of us. I wouldn't be surprised if, by the end of it, everything is still the same, because I doubt the GM is willing to rewrite basically every adventure to fit the new reality.
Now that's a good point. I imagine enough things will remain the same such as our accomplishments. We'll just see who's in power and who's "our sworn enemy." It'd be ironic if Pyrond survived and fell into that category, especially since we don't necesarily know whose side he was on anyway what with that business in Message to Mirgspil...and a few other advs as well. Yelthem Crew anyone? Or The Bog Giant? Guess we'll see.
thingirl
10-10-2009, 02:56 PM
But don't some of us have stuff stored in Trynd Keep?
paladin
10-10-2009, 05:44 PM
But don't some of us have stuff stored in Trynd Keep?
We'll just have to see what happens. I know some probably do still have some stuff stored there. I moved all mine out and into Stormhill Manor ages ago. I'll wait and see what happens with this PG and whether someone succeeds Pyrond...and whether or not said person is willing to let our ownership, or rentership, whatever, of that tower, stand.
Daffanka
10-10-2009, 06:09 PM
If anything, I could definitely see Trynd Keep being changed. It's a pre-requisite for the PG so you won't be able to change the past and then do it, Thane Pyrond himself is connected... yeah.
billydakid
10-10-2009, 10:27 PM
Dude the gm wouldn't have to write every adventure to fit the whole new world once you do this pg after you complete it is when things in the world would change.
Elrond
10-23-2009, 10:43 PM
Part 4 - The Alder Throne
What is and what will be may not be what was...
* The Chasm of Time ...
Not yet available. Please check back soon.
billydakid
10-23-2009, 10:44 PM
I hope soon is really soon and not a month lol. a week might be nice.
Elrond
10-23-2009, 10:47 PM
I hope soon is really soon and not a month lol. a week might be nice.
We have the Tome of Attainment, Halloween gifts at the end of the month, Halloween equipment at Tallys, and the raffle that must be resolved before this. So, we're realistically looking at 2-3 weeks before the Chasm of Time is introduced.
billydakid
10-24-2009, 01:50 AM
Oh rats I can't wait. That segment should be real interesting. sounds like my friends will begin to forget me with the completion of that segment. sounds like I should start writting notes hey remember me I saved your arse when...
zmflavius
10-27-2009, 02:33 AM
I just remembered something that I'm pretty sure nobody mentioned.
During the Adventure: The Blood of Zardruzin, the adventure begins in the goblinclaw, a while into the future. A storyteller is asking some listeners what story they'd like to hear, and mentions "Playername and the Halls of Wolf King?", "Playername and the Alder Throne?" and eventually a person asks for The Blood of Zardruzin.
But yeah, I'm quite sure that adventure predates Saarngard, and by extension PG VI.
But wouldn't that also mean that if people are around to talk about the Alder Throne, and this is an adventure which takes place before Saarngard, that very clearly, you've caused little if any difference in the passage of time other than eliminating the threat you caused to the world, since during that adventure, it's revealed that we all eventually become farmers in Southtrod Glen.
Joddelle
10-27-2009, 04:16 AM
You know, I just recently did that one and noticed the same thing! I thought about mentioning it here, but got distracted doing wiki updates and forgot!
Good catch! the wolf pelts may have something to do with those halls
shadowblack
11-08-2009, 05:03 PM
Looks like the next scenario is close. Let's see how hard this one will be...
billydakid
11-08-2009, 05:25 PM
I'm ready bring it on bab!
thingirl
11-09-2009, 09:54 PM
STOP JINXING IT!!!!!! But really, I'm interested in this, yet I don't want to play it, because I'm also fearful.
billydakid
11-10-2009, 12:11 AM
oh come on TG fearful of what? I'll take you on the adventure tG would you like me to hold your hand? I have no fear.
thingirl
11-10-2009, 12:13 AM
You're not the Ghost Lady, I don't wanna hold your hand!
billydakid
11-10-2009, 01:27 AM
/me puts on my ghost lady disguise. see shows what you know I am the ghost lady.
thingirl
11-10-2009, 01:48 AM
Is he for real?
Unfortunately, yes. Hey, aren't you supposed to be tumbling though a black void?
Oh, yeah. *poofs away*
billydakid
11-10-2009, 03:24 AM
lol Tg same black void your falling through. Hey I was just being a nice guy figued I'd help the lady so she wouldn't be scared anymore in the next pg adventure. hmm remind me not to throw my cape across a puddle so you won't get your feet wet hehe.
zmflavius
11-10-2009, 03:42 AM
lol Tg same black void your falling through. Hey I was just being a nice guy figued I'd help the lady so she wouldn't be scared anymore in the next pg adventure. hmm remind me not to throw my cape across a puddle so you won't get your feet wet hehe.
That's a reference to something in Elizabethan times right? Exactly what, I can't bring to mind though...
Young Ned
11-10-2009, 03:53 AM
lol Tg same black void your falling through. Hey I was just being a nice guy figued I'd help the lady so she wouldn't be scared anymore in the next pg adventure. hmm remind me not to throw my cape across a puddle so you won't get your feet wet hehe.
That's a reference to something in Elizabethan times right? Exactly what, I can't bring to mind though...
http://www.answers.com/topic/sir-walter-raleigh - First paragraph.
thingirl
11-10-2009, 08:14 PM
You really think I'm that bad? I hope you get eaten up by the Witch.
Alanne, that's not nice! Well, he is being annoying, but still...
(I have a lot of inner conflict, don't I :p)
shadowblack
11-17-2009, 02:21 PM
If there are no delays due to bugs and glitches, then the next scenario will be available in 3-4 days. I hope everyone's ready...
racey
11-17-2009, 08:27 PM
If there are no delays due to bugs and glitches, then the next scenario will be available in 3-4 days. I hope everyone's ready...
Billy?
Young Ned
11-18-2009, 01:34 AM
This scenario, "The Chasm of Time", pits Sryth's bravest adventurers against an enemy whose powers are beyond all reckoning -- a foe whose very will can twist the fabric of time.
Ooooooooooh!! :cool:
billydakid
11-18-2009, 03:34 AM
I'm more then ready bring it on.
zmflavius
11-18-2009, 04:00 AM
If Zmflavius can teleport out the portal to Castle Baleward and back again, he's more than ready.
spencer
11-18-2009, 02:23 PM
So who is this "time twister" that is going to challenge us? Is it somebody we know or someone we have never met? Whoever it is, they're going to need a new watch after we get done with them :D
zmflavius
11-18-2009, 06:56 PM
Perhaps...Perhaps we've fought him/her before in the ring of illusion...
spencer
11-18-2009, 09:07 PM
*rushes off to read the wiki about the ROI since it was sooooo long ago*
billydakid
11-19-2009, 12:23 AM
another witch is going to die.
Elrond
11-20-2009, 11:23 PM
Let the suspense for tonight's premiere start! I do hope we get the PG scenario tonight without delay for further testing!
billydakid
11-21-2009, 12:07 AM
me to this is gonna be good. i can't wait.
thingirl
11-21-2009, 01:14 AM
***********CRYING BABY ALERT************
Wahhhhhhhh, my bed time is in 2 hours. I won’t be able to play in until tamawow ( misspelling intentional).
billydakid
11-21-2009, 03:57 AM
Oh come on TG it's the weekend you have a bedtime on the weekends?
spencer
11-21-2009, 05:16 AM
It's live...and very interesting :)
Elrond
11-21-2009, 05:56 AM
Well, it is definitely interesting. There are choices to be made; and it isn't clear how those choices will impact the development of the plot:
My choices were:
1- Do not alert the guards to the boy's presence
2- Intervene to allow the boy's escape
3- Intervene to stop the goblin attack
4- Approach the woodsman and learn the girl's name
Now in hindsight, I am not too thrilled about the choices I've made; but hey, I can always go back in time to undo them (hopefully)!
And in the end I was lucky to pass the last check!
billydakid
11-21-2009, 06:09 AM
Well, it is definitely interesting. There are choices to be made; and it isn't clear how those choices will impact the development of the plot:
My choices were:
1- Do not alert the guards to the boy's presence
2- Intervene to allow the boy's escape
3- Intervene to stop the goblin attack
4- Approach the woodsman and learn the girl's name
Now in hindsight, I am not too thrilled about the choices I've made; but hey, I can always go back in time to undo them (hopefully)!
And in the end I was lucky to pass the last check! lol dude we made the exact same choices and I also passed the check.
Elrond
11-21-2009, 06:10 AM
lol dude we made the exact same choices and I also passed the check.
At least we're in this together then! Hopefully, the choices are more right than wrong!
One more thing: we had this in the announcement:
This scenario, "The Chasm of Time", pits Sryth's bravest adventurers against an enemy whose powers are beyond all reckoning -- a foe whose very will can twist the fabric of time.
That was not the case as there was no uber-powerful enemy in the scenario.
billydakid
11-21-2009, 06:13 AM
We ain't dead yet so we must be doing ok.
Doolipalally
11-21-2009, 09:47 AM
Gulp. Jazz failed the last check, so the episode ended with:
You're within ten yards of the disappearing portal when the misty vortex vanishes. You cry out in dismay as your momentum carries you over the very spot in which the portal hovered only moments ago.
As your mind races to contemplate what this unsettling turn of events means, you suddenly become aware of something large moving swiftly across the barren, craggy plain in your direction.
You instinctively spin to your right, where your weary, but widening eyes fall upon a sight that fills you with dread...a sight rapidly drawing closer with each of its lengthy strides...
One more thing: we had this in the announcement:
This scenario, "The Chasm of Time", pits Sryth's bravest adventurers against an enemy whose powers are beyond all reckoning -- a foe whose very will can twist the fabric of time.
That was not the case as there was no uber-powerful enemy in the scenario.
We didn't see an uber-powerful enemy, but that doesn't mean there wasn't one, directing things from behind the scenes...
spencer
11-21-2009, 01:19 PM
I made exactly the same choices as billy and Elrond...and passed my check...time will tell
billydakid
11-21-2009, 01:19 PM
So did you die dooli? I'd hate to die that way being as i'm trying not to die in this pg. I'd be mad if I died on a check.
This is strange... Right after I finished the scenario the page flickered
and my score was reset, effectively erasing two failed attempts. Kinda like the past was rewritten in a more auspicious way...
Strange, indeed... but I am not complaining!
mordain
11-21-2009, 04:18 PM
This is strange... Right after I finished the scenario the page flickered
and my score was reset, effectively erasing two failed attempts. Kinda like the past was rewritten in a more auspicious way...
Strange, indeed... but I am not complaining!
Same thing happened here.
Zedalion
11-21-2009, 04:31 PM
Enjoying this quest immensely...
I am a big fan of the Tenelbria part of the storyline, so I'm hoping against hope that learning her name doesn't erase her from the new timeline. That would bum me out.
Taleria
11-21-2009, 05:23 PM
*blinks* I just finished the new scenario and am back to 100% victories. But I had one loss because I'd chosen to try to help Owl despite the warnings in the beginning of the PG.
As for this scenario, I was basically on the humans' side all along. I chose to keep Owl hidden, and then to warn Athurok's father of the goblins. I told him to leave me to the goblin-slaying in hopes of keeping him safe as well.
Edit: I also chose to aid Owl's escape, and you learn the boy/girl's name when you warn the father about the goblins.
I didn't fail the final check. Yet another cliffhanger.
Edit 2: Now I wish I'd copied the ending text for passing the check.
These scenes with our young friends are quite intriguing. I wonder what happens if anyone's brave enough to choose other options, like doing nothing. :p
Edit 3: For the sake of clarity, I'm playing these scenarios with Taleria. I'm not doing this PG with Selkit until it's complete, so I'll know which choices to make.
Elrond
11-21-2009, 09:20 PM
We ain't dead yet so we must be doing ok.
True, true! So far so good! But I wonder if the GM really wanted us to stand idle and let things fall in place without our intervention. After all, we know that they boy grew up and had an illustrious career before dying; and we know that the other kid holds holds "my" heart in her hands a couple of decades down the line!
And another point to consider is that we're not too far back in time if we're handling these kind of choices! I would have guessed that we have to go back in time a few generations to alter the outcome of things!
psychoadept
11-21-2009, 09:27 PM
I mixed up some of my choices for my different characters, but they all did some version of helping their friends. There's only one that I wish I'd done differently, in retrospect.
Sadly, all three of them failed the first check, despite the fact it wasn't a hard one. Wondering what consequences that will have. And Vylix failed the last check. I'll be interested to see how that affects outcomes for all of them.
billydakid
11-21-2009, 09:42 PM
wow you guys that failed some missions and went back to a hundred percent I don't know if that is fair to the rest of us who have had a hundred percent through out this PG. If that is the case and you guys who failed attempts should not be able to get the same aT's as those of us if we continue on to not fail any of the missions. what I'm saying is if those of us that haven't failed a mission yet end the pg with a perfect score we should get more AT's then those of you who have failed missions and had your status returned to a hundred percent.
shadowblack
11-21-2009, 09:56 PM
I really don't see the problem with people being forgiven for a few loses, since we're dealing with time travel here. Especially since often times whether you fail or not is determined by the Random Number Generator.
Besidres, this isn't the first time people are forgiven for some of their losses:
Grumpy Elendil asks, "Removing 3 defeats from everyone (at least those who had defeats) equated between people who finished the PG with an "authentic" 100% record and others who "blundered" into it and were defeated in one or more scenario's. Why was this done? And do you think there should be a bigger reward for people who finished with an "unassisted" 100%?
A: There were a number of glitches that appeared during several of the scenarios in the Silver Crest Proving Grounds event. Sometimes I was able to adjust character's records individually to make up for the losses that were incurred due to a glitch, but in the end I felt the only fair way to address the issue (as many players suffered losses that were not their faults without reporting them) was to adjust the losses for all who had participated.
Elrond
11-21-2009, 10:35 PM
I really don't see the problem with people being forgiven for a few loses, since we're dealing with time travel here. Especially since often times whether you fail or not is determined by the Random Number Generator.
Besidres, this isn't the first time people are forgiven for some of their losses:
Grumpy Elendil asks, "Removing 3 defeats from everyone (at least those who had defeats) equated between people who finished the PG with an "authentic" 100% record and others who "blundered" into it and were defeated in one or more scenario's. Why was this done? And do you think there should be a bigger reward for people who finished with an "unassisted" 100%?
A: There were a number of glitches that appeared during several of the scenarios in the Silver Crest Proving Grounds event. Sometimes I was able to adjust character's records individually to make up for the losses that were incurred due to a glitch, but in the end I felt the only fair way to address the issue (as many players suffered losses that were not their faults without reporting them) was to adjust the losses for all who had participated.
Yup! That is the exact answer I was looking for to reply to Billy's comment.
Billy, I've been there before! And hey, I won't complain if people were getting more AT's. At least they're not taking any of mine!
texlaw1992
11-21-2009, 11:25 PM
I appreciate the GM's forgiveness of my two prior losses, especially since one loss was two back-to-back die roll failures where I needed a 5 to succeed. I appear to have made the same choices as Elrond and others, and made it through the portal. Clearly the first episode of Chasm did not have a big foe, but one has certainly been foreshadowed.
I'm looking forward to Part II. Does anyone know when that might happen? I didn't see any news about it.
zmflavius
11-21-2009, 11:59 PM
Oh God...two fate decisions...it's a pity I'm so indecisive.
edit: To tell the truth, I think it's rather surprising that we didn't meet Unleri...or for that matter, a person with a glimmering warblade wearing padded clothing.
Then again, that's only part one of three.
jimyred
11-22-2009, 01:11 AM
I for one will be glad to do this and have a loss erased, since my only loss came from failing two consecutive checks and falling off the dragon's back to my death. Totally not my fault :)
Doolipalally
11-22-2009, 07:50 AM
So did you die dooli? I'd hate to die that way being as i'm trying not to die in this pg. I'd be mad if I died on a check.
You don't die if you fail the final check, you just end with the text I posted above. I'm guessing you get an extra battle at the beginning of the next scenario.
paladin
11-22-2009, 04:40 PM
Well Marissa's certainly not going to complain about having her two losses erased.
psychoadept
11-22-2009, 08:19 PM
But I wonder if the GM really wanted us to stand idle and let things fall in place without our intervention. After all, we know that they boy grew up and had an illustrious career before dying; and we know that the other kid holds holds "my" heart in her hands a couple of decades down the line!
My thinking is that maybe whether you have losses removed/how many are removed depends on the choices you make in this scenario. Like, if you allowed Owl or Tenelbria to get in trouble, you might not get the losses erased.
Elrond
11-22-2009, 09:58 PM
My thinking is that maybe whether you have losses removed/how many are removed depends on the choices you make in this scenario. Like, if you allowed Owl or Tenelbria to get in trouble, you might not get the losses erased.
So far, I've been lucky enough to have a "natural" 100% record. I did not have any losses; so I wouldn't know if the above assumption is true or not. My hunch is that the GM was testing our discipline.
By the way, did anyone stand aside and watch and let things happen without intervention? It would be interesting to know if anyone took that route!
paladin
11-22-2009, 10:16 PM
My thinking is that maybe whether you have losses removed/how many are removed depends on the choices you make in this scenario. Like, if you allowed Owl or Tenelbria to get in trouble, you might not get the losses erased.
Hmmm, never even thought of that. But it does make a certain amount of sense. I wonder if the second and third parts of this scenario will feature similar situations?
billydakid
11-23-2009, 01:40 AM
I'm glad ya didn't die dooli. I just hope your not traped in time forever jk. I'd hate to think your traped in time forever and can't come back to us.
spencer
11-23-2009, 03:02 AM
Well, technically, ah never mind, this whole time travel, changing history, fateful decision thing makes my head hurt (but it is fun)....still, give me something to smack with my SSL and I am happy :D
Elrond
11-23-2009, 03:35 AM
....still, give me something to smack with my SSL and I am happy :D
That sounds so much like Gimili in LotR! He "could" bash/chop Orc heads with his axe!
Doolipalally
11-23-2009, 06:57 AM
Well, technically, ah never mind, this whole time travel, changing history, fateful decision thing makes my head hurt (but it is fun)....still, give me something to smack with my SSL and I am happy :D
That sounds so much like Gimili in LotR! He "could" bash/chop Orc heads with his axe!
Doesn't he say 'give me a row of Orc necks and room to swing, and all weariness will fall from me'? Something like that, anyway.
Elrond
11-23-2009, 07:06 AM
Doesn't he say 'give me a row of Orc necks and room to swing, and all weariness will fall from me'? Something like that, anyway.
Yup something along that line; as well as his great competition with Legolas in Helm's Deep, which he won 42-41 (I think)!
thingirl
11-23-2009, 09:22 PM
I thought it was 41-40. But, I borrowed them from the library, and I already returned Two Towers...
jimyred
11-23-2009, 09:36 PM
According to Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gimli_%28Middle-earth%29), Gimli won 42-41.
(And we all know Wikipedia is the definitive source for completely reliable and accurate information :) )
thingirl
11-23-2009, 09:37 PM
Ehh, it's probably 42-41. Afterall, it was him who posted it.
thingirl
11-25-2009, 10:22 PM
I passed.
You've Picked a Random Number...
121
SUCCESS!
You needed greater than or equal to 100 to succeed.
You picked 60 modified by 61 for a total of 121 .
With only a split second to spare, you reach the disappearing portal and hurl yourself into the core of the misty vortex. Darkness engulfs you as you tumble headlong into a silent void, hurtling through a corridor over which time and space hold no sway.
Your flight into the void doesn't last long.
An abrupt, bone-jarring halt brings your tumble to an immediate and violent end as your body slams down upon what feels like stony, frigid, unforgiving earth.
Awash with staggering pain, and cloaked in total darkness, you attempt to roll onto your back, but to your mounting horror you find that you're unable to move. The sudden sound of soft, nearby footfalls fills you with inexplicable dread.
Without warning, a sudden and profound sense of serenity descends upon you, staving off the paralyzing fear that very nearly overwhelmed you.
As your extremities begin to tingle, and you find that you're able to twitch the tips of your fingers, you once again exert yourself in a bid to turn on your side and face whatever is slowly approaching.
Before you've even begun the effort, however, a searing jolt of pain shoots down your spine, causing you to cry out in agony.
Your eyes flicker for a moment and close.
XP +3,072 You've been awarded a total of 3,072 Experience...
3,072 xp applied to general...
XP +384 You've been awarded 384 Experience...
384 xp applied to All Skills and Powers...
Success!
Well done, Alanne!
You've successfuly completed this scenario and scored a victory in the current Proving Grounds contest (The Alder Throne).
Your victory has been recorded.
And with choices of Help Owl x2, Shoot the Goblins, approach my love (hope that didn't change anything) I got Your Score & Rank:
Your current score is 100% (16 victories in 16 attempts)
Your score places you in . . .
The 1st Order of Adventurers
The Order of The Archmaster Adventurer. I had had 2 defeats.
shadowblack
11-25-2009, 10:27 PM
So if you pass the final check you get a massive experience boost? Or do you get that for completing the scenario, regardless of the check?
wetheril
11-25-2009, 10:29 PM
I believe that experience reward is for completing the scenario. Unless Doolipalally testifies in not having that reward at the end for failing the check...
thingirl
11-25-2009, 10:30 PM
EDIT: Ninja'd by Wetheril.
Well, Dooli failed and didn't get the XP:
Gulp. Jazz failed the last check, so the episode ended with:
You're within ten yards of the disappearing portal when the misty vortex vanishes. You cry out in dismay as your momentum carries you over the very spot in which the portal hovered only moments ago.
As your mind races to contemplate what this unsettling turn of events means, you suddenly become aware of something large moving swiftly across the barren, craggy plain in your direction.
You instinctively spin to your right, where your weary, but widening eyes fall upon a sight that fills you with dread...a sight rapidly drawing closer with each of its lengthy strides...
So I would guess so. Although, she'll probably get the XP after defeating an extra enemy.
jimyred
11-25-2009, 10:38 PM
Pretty sure that both of my characters got that reward, one passed and one didn't. Maybe Dooli just didn't copy that part?
racey
11-25-2009, 11:34 PM
So if you pass the final check you get a massive experience boost? Or do you get that for completing the scenario, regardless of the check?
I failed the check with my secondary and got the 384 xp reward. The info is available here (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Proving_Grounds_VI:_The_Alder_Throne#The_Chasm_of_ Time).
psychoadept
11-26-2009, 12:20 AM
I didn't notice any difference in rewards between my characters, even though Vylix failed the last check.
Doolipalally
11-26-2009, 06:55 AM
EDIT: Ninja'd by Wetheril.
Well, Dooli failed and didn't get the XP
Nope, like Psychoadept said, Dooli just didn't post that part. I was focusing on the story, not the rewards.
shadowblack
11-28-2009, 06:18 PM
Proving Grounds VI Continues
The next two scenarios for the current Proving Grounds adventure (The Alder Throne) are expected to be available on Tuesday (12/1) and Thursday (12/3).
I guess the next two scenarios are rather short, if they are going to be available with such a short pause between them.
zmflavius
11-28-2009, 10:28 PM
Or they could all be the same theme as the first part...in fact, he could have actually planned all three parts to be one scenario, and released part 1 as the first fully completed part.
Elrond
11-29-2009, 03:47 AM
Or they could all be the same theme as the first part...in fact, he could have actually planned all three parts to be one scenario, and released part 1 as the first fully completed part.
It could be that the GM decided to "shorten" the PG. If the total is 22 - 25 scenario's then splitting the "Chasm of Time" into 3 parts is a good short cut. I do hope he's aiming to finish the PG before the end of the year!
billydakid
11-29-2009, 04:02 AM
All I know is I'm so glad the next 2 parts are coming out so soon after the last one yeay. thank you gm. Also it won't be what we expect. If there is anything I've learned about our gm is that he doesn't do what we expect or think he will do. So I'm looking forward to the curve balls he throws us now.
smv1973
11-29-2009, 07:02 PM
It could be that the GM decided to "shorten" the PG. If the total is 22 - 25 scenario's then splitting the "Chasm of Time" into 3 parts is a good short cut. I do hope he's aiming to finish the PG before the end of the year!
It would be so nice if PG VI would be finished this year. I think the first part of PG VI went live just about a year ago now.
A question for the older players. How long did it take the GM to finish PG I, PG II, PG III, PG IV, and PG V? In the wiki it lists that PG II was added on February 2006, PG III was added on May 2006, and PG IV was added on August 2006. Were those 3 PG added all at once or were they added one part at a time like PG VI has been?
Glowworm
12-02-2009, 05:05 AM
Latest part is up--and a nice long adventure.
One scenario I chose to avenge a fallen soldier--let's just say the result was more than I bargined for--but worth it here it is.Your use of Restoration has succeeded...
XP +2,048 You've been awarded a total of 2,048 Experience...
2,048 xp applied to general...
XP +384 You've been awarded 384 Experience...
384 xp applied to All Skills and Powers...
Eight spear-wielding goblins who arrived at the end of the fight, turn and flee at the sight of you as you step over the bloodied corpses of their kin.
Despite their savagery and their unbridled hatred for humankind, these creatures have no desire to engage the woman who's just slain nearly two dozen hardened goblin warriors.
After taking just a few moments to regather your strength, you start off across the field of battle to where Thane Tsarak is pitching a valiant fight against a gruesome legion of armoured goblin warriors.
Please continue...
texlaw1992
12-02-2009, 05:33 AM
Thanks for the info. I'm still on track to get the ice shield this coming weekend. so I'm going to hold off on any further adventures until then. Good luck to all those venturing further in the Chasm of Time.
Ka keng
12-02-2009, 06:09 AM
Ouch. It seems I'm going to have to switch to NvR gear for the upcomming events. Several opponents were black with 169 mr...
billydakid
12-02-2009, 06:16 AM
ah dang I wish I chose to help the soldier. i followed the thanes flock. got some good points but not that high. oh well at least is I saved .... and killed ....
Elrond
12-02-2009, 06:30 AM
Bugger! I followed the Thane's regiment instead; and he still got killed. But I did save a young rascal's neck!
If you avenge the young soldier, do you still fight the savage goblin who kills the Thane?
Ka keng
12-02-2009, 06:35 AM
Yes. He was one of the two black opponents I was talking about.
billydakid
12-02-2009, 06:39 AM
lol Elrond you and me are in the same boat. Did you kill the ... that killed the thane? Oh and another question did you guys have to reroll at the beginning of this adventure I had to reroll and failed the check there had to fight but the reward was nice. I was just wondering if you had to reroll to. I don't know if everyone had to reroll thought it was weird since I had passed it at the end of part 1.
Elrond
12-02-2009, 06:41 AM
lol Elrond you and me are in the same boat. Did you kill the ... that killed the thane? Oh and another question did you guys have to reroll at the beginning of this adventure I had to reroll and failed the check there had to fight but the reward was nice. I was just wondering if you had to reroll to. I don't know if everyone had to reroll thought it was weird since I had passed it at the end of part 1.
Lol, BDK! I killed the bugger with the sole intent of trying to replace ........ as the Thane when I finish "re-arranging" history! And I also had to reroll the vortex check at the start, I passed by a whisker!
Finally, all opponents were 3+ at MR 257. The savage took 17 rounds of QC ;) only!
billydakid
12-02-2009, 06:48 AM
ok cool guess it wasn't a bug then. Yeah me to I want to be king when we are finished rearranging history. Oh man but there is one thing I really wanted to do it was kill witchy man I got several good shots in on her and would have killed her if she didn't run away. I guess witchy is sick though. she was having issues with her throat.
psychoadept
12-02-2009, 08:18 AM
Holy cow, that was brutal. I ended up using two of my bell charges just to survive.
Was there some trick with the platinum coins that I missed? I didn't see any way to use them in combat.
Actually,
you may use the platinum coins at the Skeletal Time Warden if you miss the first roll - it slows him down and you get a nice 128xp reward
zmflavius
12-02-2009, 01:29 PM
151 rounds...and I thought that I had it bad with the magical block of ice and the phantom servant...
I also needed 2 QS heals:
SP +261 You've healed back 261 Stamina Point(s) from the combat.
edit:Humgorn wasn't so bad, not with Necro, Tumithra, pity, I didn't kill her. Wasn't so bad.
spencer
12-02-2009, 03:08 PM
What a great adventure!! In my three choices...
I avenged the soldier, I diverted the bomb and I fought the savage goblin (16+ to hit with MR 210)
I don't recall the same reward as glowworm, but I could have missed it.
Just, WOW, I can't wait for the next part tomorrow night :)
shadowblack
12-02-2009, 03:10 PM
Sounds like people with a low MR (like me) should bring a fully-charged Fiunger and the Wand (and the Bell, if they have it). Tallys' Whisper might also be of help.
zmflavius
12-02-2009, 05:24 PM
Sounds like people with a low MR (like me) should bring a fully-charged Fiunger and the Wand (and the Bell, if they have it). Tallys' Whisper might also be of help.
With liberal use of powers, bell and finger aren't neccessary. You probably will still want the fully-charged finger and the wand though.
thingirl
12-02-2009, 05:34 PM
I have 2 WB and 10 Whispers. And a Wand. But not much time right now.
Glowworm
12-02-2009, 07:47 PM
I had to go through the adventure 3 times. Oh well. That's a lot better than my earlier days through proving grounds.:p
Elrond
12-02-2009, 10:54 PM
I had to go through the adventure 3 times. Oh well. That's a lot better than my earlier days through proving grounds.:p
Wow, that's brutal! You had 2 losses registered in this scenario?! Better luck next scenario's.
Glowworm
12-03-2009, 12:44 AM
Wow, that's brutal! You had 2 losses registered in this scenario?! Better luck next scenario's.
Meh,I've had worse when I first did proving grounds-but yes, it is brutal.
billydakid
12-03-2009, 01:22 PM
So are you guys excited like me. Part 3 of the current pg is due out tonight if all goes according to planned. I wonder what our GM has in store for us this evening? I can't wait.
spencer
12-03-2009, 07:32 PM
I am with you, billy. This has been an incredible adventure to this point...I can't wait, either.
Aracelis
12-03-2009, 10:27 PM
I completed it on the third attempt; it really was tough, but also exciting.
I'm wondering if people declined to intervene in various ways, and what happens then, for instance:
I didn't avenge the soldier, but I prevented the goblin bomb and fought the goblin Humgorn at the end. I'm wondering, if someone doesn't fight the goblin, what happens to Pyrond for example
thingirl
12-03-2009, 10:28 PM
oh yeah, is there any way to save him? My thought on the whole thing was that it would save Pyrond and Owl.
Just finished the third part. Interesting...
snow, wolves, a bronze amulet, a little girl - whose identity and father's legacy adds another plot twist - and more wolves. Did I mention the wolves?
billydakid
12-04-2009, 01:26 PM
Kill all the wolves big reward.
billydakid
12-04-2009, 01:32 PM
The Chasm of Time, Part IV still not live and no news about it in the updates. I wonder if the GM put the wrong date for it going live in the updates. Smv It was part 3 that was released last night not part 4. Tuesday was part 2 and Thursday was part 3. Your right there is no announcement when part 4 will be released but part 4 wasn't susposed to be released yet.
spencer
12-04-2009, 02:15 PM
Again, very enjoyable and very nice rewards....
I wonder who the black bearded dude is?
jimyred
12-04-2009, 04:43 PM
So Fred with archery at 87 and a Grand Ashen Bow missed the shot to save the girl from the charging wolves, and everything faded out . . . I didn't get to fight the last group of them, nor did I get any indication of whether that meant she died. Chuck saved her and killed all the wolves, and had the hanging ending, so how that will resolve for Fred going into the next one will be interesting to see . . .
spencer
12-04-2009, 05:06 PM
Sorry to hear about Fred's bad luck, jimy....you must have rolled REALLY low because my bonus was 74 and we needed 75....I think your Woodsmanship may have been the difference.
zmflavius
12-04-2009, 05:37 PM
Again, very enjoyable and very nice rewards....
I wonder who the black bearded dude is?
NOTE! Not recommended for players with 155- MR. The limit could be higher.
Barynbor possibly?
spencer
12-04-2009, 06:41 PM
Interesting speculation there, zm, I had not considered that possibility.
racey
12-04-2009, 07:09 PM
During the first encounter with the wolves, (after you decide whether or not to give up the amulet) you have the option of holding your ground, using your bow or using Elementalism or Telekinesis. I used Elementalism and succeeded but received 0 xp and went to archery checks anyway. I am wondering if that was a bug. Did anyone else notice this?
spencer
12-04-2009, 07:15 PM
(after you decide whether or not to give up the amulet) you have the option of holding your ground, using your bow or using Elementalism or Telekinesis. I used Elementalism and succeeded but received 0 xp and went to archery checks anyway. I am wondering if that was a bug. Did anyone else notice this?
I had the same issue with TELEKINESIS. I succeeded the check but went straight to Archery. I wonder if succeeding at one of them helped raise your bonus or lower the to hit roll needed.
racey
12-04-2009, 07:18 PM
I had the same issue with TELEKINESIS. I succeeded the check but went straight to Archery. I wonder if succeeding at one of them helped raise your bonus or lower the to hit roll needed.
I will send a report to the GM and verify it.
psychoadept
12-05-2009, 01:55 AM
Are most folks aware that the energy dome in part 2 works like the ice block, where you flee and heal and then fight it again?
Edit: Oh, and I finally ran the second part with Amir. I'd been hesitant, after Xaran had such a time with it, but Amir has Necro 90 so I figured he could hold his own. Still went through all my NV, three Kebekk elixirs, and one bell.
Elrond
12-05-2009, 02:31 AM
Again, very enjoyable and very nice rewards....
I wonder who the black bearded dude is?
"WAS" would be more appropriate! The kid killed him near the end to avenge her brother's death! So it is safe to say that he was an insignificant reference on the kid's Resume/CV!
racey
12-05-2009, 02:33 AM
I will send a report to the GM and verify it.
According to the GM those options (Elem and Tele) were mistakenly added in and are now removed.
billydakid
12-05-2009, 04:06 AM
I wonder who the guy with the black beard is to. I guess we'll have to save his life in the next part to find out. Wouldn't it be a hoot if it was Runnie?
Elrond
12-05-2009, 04:19 AM
As I posted above, I think the guy is dead. Even if he isn't, I'm letting the kid exact her revenge on him.
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