unplayable?

[tjmango]

So Ive been playing for a while now, long enough to complete a lot of the missions and raise all my stats to 20, and a few of my skills to the 70's. And I still cant win the last two missions on my list.

The trail of death at the border ranger compound is one. I have never been able to get a woodhulk to half of its life before being smashed into a little red stain on the forest floor. Thats about the point all of my NR is used up. After playing this scenario out countless times with different strategies and getting the same result Ive come to the conclusion that I simply cannot win. Im done trying.

Same with Redwarren. I have never, ever been able to beat that stupid mission. No matter what I do. I figure the only way to do that is to get better equipment, but that aint happening unless I pay more $$$. So that aint happening.

So that leads me to the conclusion that there is absolutely nothing more for me to do in the game. Im really disappointed that no new adventures or locations have been made available, and Im bored beating my head on the wall over and over for the same results. Unless something changes, and soon, Im done with this game, for good. I just wish someone had told me all this before I paid for a membership.

[Vitriss Bale]

I've been playing the game for about a month now. My character has most skills in the high 50's and 60's, although I don't have them all and I've only got 4 powers.

When I started the game I was determined to avoid the Wiki because I didn't want to ruin the game by going to fast and knowing too much. This has allowed me to progress at a steady pace which has extended my enjoyment as I learn where to go and what to do. Yeah, I die quite often because of the unknowns but I continue to learn, explore, and develop.

I also don't want to spend money buying adventurer tokens so I'm stuck with what I earn. However, in my short time I've run into walls over and over until I knock that wall down (Axepath Cemetary, Creepy Old Man at Goblinclaw Inn). Sometimes the dice roll in your favor and sometimes, the majority of the time, I roll 1's. Just keep trying, you're virtually immortal.

Don't give up out of frustration. Grab a few xp's here and there, continue to build your character. The developer seems to continually add new adventures. It's worth sticking around for more great story.

Vitriss Bale out....

[spencer]

tj, can you link your profile? We might be able to help. There are also other free items available to boost MR, SP and NVR.

[thingirl]

Also, visit the CHR (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/CHR) for 7 day in a row to get access to Moonpath (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Moonpath). Run the quest (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/The_Cave_of_the_Ice_Troll) 36 times to get the Ice Shield (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Item:1307_Glittering_Ice_Shield). It's a long road, but it's worth it because you get, for free (XP cost only), a +15 MR/+7 SP shield, and any ATs that you have stored up in a shield.

[Oldschool]

I'm guessing this is the profile, http://www.sryth.com/ci.php?f_c=pcp.inc&f_i=1b1db38xce2700a38&f_r=h

[thingirl]

Thank you, Oldschool. :)

@Tjmango: Have you been to Saarngard Isle (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Saarngard_Isle)?

You get a much better necklace from one of the later quests there. Although, you'll probably have to try that quest several times, seeing as how it's based on random numbers...

Also, consider downgrading your shield and getting some gauntlets.

[Badstench]

Atually, tjmango (interesting handle, by the way) touched on something I have been wondering about recently.

tjmango invested in his (her?) Ag membership and believes he's done everything possible to enhance his MR to a point where high level adventures aren't impossible to finish.

But he can't finish them... for lack of power or experience or whatever.

My initial response was written in a scathing reply... then deleted when I realized I was offering a point of view from a long-time player; a player who has spent hours and hours and hours of Real Life grinding. It's the grinding that earned Judge Fury his high rank.

So first, I apologise to tjmango for my initial response.

But I don't apologise for anything inherent of the game that has given cause for his complaint. Despite the fact that my character has benefited through MR enhancing items obtained through donations, other players have managed to finish the quoted scenarios without donating anything.

However, this doesn't ignore the fact that players with longevity to the game have benefited in other ways... AT's awarded through special ocassions, past raffles, etc.

I'm still here because I worked hard at the game, and I only did that because I enjoyed the endeavour.

I only have one character on my roster. I concentrate on him, and it won't be very long before Judge Fury is maxed out.

What will I do when Judge Fury gains legendary status in everything? I've played the game long enough to NOT want to go through it all again, but the thought of not logging into Sryth frightens me; it's been a part of my life for so long as to become part of my reality.

This is my point... For me, playing Sryth has become part of my Real Life for the simple fact that I've been doing it for so long... doing it and enjoying it. But other people don't start playing the game for anything close to that reason; they just want to play a game!

And if they pay to play the game, then it's right for them to expect they should be rewarded with satisfaction.

Having said that, this an RPG, and as anyone who has played RPG's knows, you earn higher levels for your character. You earn them by experience. You earn them by smarts and intelligence and through dedication.

That's all I'm going to say.

[billydakid]

BS I'm one of the players who have maxed on everything. I also only concentrated on one character. I had 2 once but dumped my other one. I can't imagine starting another one. Don't worry BS as long as the GM comes up with adventures you will still be logging in. Heck look at the Madd. The Gm is always coming up with interesting stuff to keep you going even when you've maxed. The part that really bleeps though is those of us who have maxed don't get the all skills and power points. However the adventures that the Gm comes out with and the new stuff will keep you going. The only difference is you won't have to go balls to the wall to grind anymore.

[DonMoody]

So Ive been playing for a while now, long enough to complete a lot of the missions and raise all my stats to 20, and a few of my skills to the 70's. And I still cant win the last two missions on my list.

The trail of death at the border ranger compound is one. <snip>

Same with Redwarren. I have never, ever been able to beat that stupid mission. No matter what I do. I figure the only way to do that is to get better equipment, but that aint happening unless I pay more $$$. So that aint happening.

So that leads me to the conclusion that there is absolutely nothing more for me to do in the game.
<snip>
I just wish someone had told me all this before I paid for a membership

Don't give up yet!

I am with Spencer, can you provide us with a link to your profile?

I played my main character (Beth Draedon) for over a year *without ever donating*.

Yes, in December, I had a fortuitous 'found' $$$ aspect and decided sending the GM some of it was an acceptable choice for me.

However, please note that after about a year of playing, my main character was about MR: 188 SP: 221 NV: 44.
And that was without the non-permanent boosts a character can get from Fogbough Forest.
At that time, I had gotten into the top 20 in The Hall of Champions: Adventurers.
And that was all achieved (sorry for repeating) *without a single donation*.

Also, at that time, I tended to focus more on SP than on MR.
For example, the bonus from the Wisp of Black Mist and the bonus from the Bowl of Blood were both kept in SP.
With changing those bonuses from SP to MR plus some with trading of Tally's equipment (returning/replacing items - but doing so *only* with the ATs that can be found in the game for 'free' with an AG membership), my character's MR/SP could be rebalanced so both were in the 200+ area.
Which should be enough to complete most if not all content.

For example, for PG6, the Wiki says "toughest fight is 3+ at MR 238", "an MR of 180+ is advisable", "as to SP, the higher the better", "190-200 SP is probably safe" and "35+ NvR is advisable".
Well, my character was able to meet or exceed those recommended MR/SP/NV levels for PG6 - and was able to do so (again, sorry for the repetition) without a single donation.

That level of MR/Sp/NV should be enough to complete "A Trail of Death".
While not certain, I suspect the above MR/SP/NV levels would be enough to get through Redwarren.

... other players have managed to finish the quoted scenarios without donating anything.

Agreed.

DonMoody

[demojan777]

Welcome to the forums tjmango!

I have felt the same way that you have, but at that time I had discovered the forums and the wiki and realized that these are both great places to go to whenever I'm stuck. I have yet to come up against a wall that couldn't eventually be overcome with either a search or posting and asking for help.

I agree with a lot of the things others have said here, but here's how I've got my main character, Rundum, up to where he is now (and I was in the boat of dying with a similar MR with the adventures open to me):

Tarn is a scaled scenario, so stock up on everything that adds to SP and NV, if you've got the Hale Blade or Demonscourge or anything that adds MR vs. undead take all those weapons with you, and do everything you can there (I would advise checking out the wiki 1st). Band Of Gruljasa is an awesome ring from there that will help out.

Do everything you can in Fogbough, and there are some adventures linking Fogbough to Tarn. There's also the Goblin Totem Block and a small grinding area where you pick up blocks to put into it that add to your MR (I think also SP and NR). You also get the Wisp of Black Mist and other bonuses, plus you can get the temporary bonuses from A Tangled Maze of Thorny Vines and A Deep, Shimmering Pool. I also advise checking this out in the wiki.

Do all of the Saarngard Isle quests, and also do everything you can in Phak-Rur as that will get you LOTS of ATs.

One thing that will help out the most is spending the next month or so getting the Glittering Ice Shield: you can meet the Crimson-Helmed Rider when exploring the Longspur Downs in Southern Tysa. Visit him for seven consecutive days to get access to the town of Moonpath, from there make your way to The Cave of the Ice Troll and keep grinding away at it until you get the Glittering Ice Shield and trade your current shield back in for ATs and use them for something else.

Last but not least, is getting the Quickstone and doing all the quests that you can in your residence to the point of getting the Cloak Of The Wanderer.

There's more, but those are the only things that I've done to get myself to where I'm at, which is enough to finish PG VI and other things I've been stuck on for a while.

Just keep wandering, check out the wiki for things you might have missed, and ask for help on the forum and also search for things you might have missed on the forum as well. Everyone here is very helpful and I have received great benefits from participating in the forum community, regarding Sryth and also regarding my own real life, so I hope you can find the same thing.

[Tetracapillactomist]

So that leads me to the conclusion that there is absolutely nothing more for me to do in the game. Im really disappointed that no new adventures or locations have been made available, and Im bored beating my head on the wall over and over for the same results. Unless something changes, and soon, Im done with this game, for good. I just wish someone had told me all this before I paid for a membership.

(Someone said something about attempting something and expecting something different ... &c. - non sequitur [sic].)

Hello, TJMango. I suspect some people will immediatly head for the thread exit when they see the handle above, groaning in pain - but you're lucky:

no meandering rambling follows these words. ;)

You have an MR rating of 119, an SP rating of 136, and an NV rating of 17, correct? You're nowhere near the level that can be reached without donating a pebble.

Have you been attempting missions shown in "The Adventure Finder"?

Here's a better source of available adventures from Sryth Wiki:

Quest List (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Quest_List#Westmere.2FIron_Crown_Isle.2FZumryn.27s _battlegrounds)

Peruse it if you haven't. Start at the top, scroll through the entire page.

See one you don't recognise? Check the requirements. If your stats are up to snuff, go for it. If there are prerequisites, complete them, if the above condition is satisfied. If not, find another quest.

Unless you're already playing "ESVI: To Oblivion and Beyond", and you still have the patience, read this and give me a rep. If it's a useless advice, cuss me out in a hurry, and ignore it: I won't waste any more of your time - god speed, gather no moss. ;)

(Or, sit back, pick a rose and take the time to inhale its fragrance. Your choice.)

Be well.

[Tetracapillactomist]

can you provide us with a link to your profile?
DonMoody

In OS's reply, DonMoody:

tjmango (http://www.sryth.com/ci.php?f_c=pcp.inc&f_i=1b1db38xce2700a38&f_r=h)

[shadowblack]

tjmango, allow me to give you a couple of tips:
1) Get all skills and powers
1.1) Get Gating and Necromancy - both do better damage than your current powers (at least if they are in the 60+ range)
2) Replace your belt and gauntlets with unmatched Plate ones - this will surely improve your Stamina
3) Remember that a lot of things are not obvious - such as the Bowl of Blood, the goblin totem block, the requirements for castle Baleward...

Also, please give us the contents of your Adventure Finder.

[Tetracapillactomist]

You're right, Shadowblack! So many things missing.

Well, the Quest List is still useful, but Tjmango, you can still use a lot of the

Character Startup Guide (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Character_Startup_Guide#)

[Memory King]

You should do the quests in your Residence for an awesome cloak. Have you done The Shattered Skull series yet? You can get pretty good Gauntlets from there, if you take violence as the answer.

[Oldschool]

......other players have managed to finish the quoted scenarios without donating anything.

........it won't be very long before Judge Fury is maxed out.

What will I do when Judge Fury gains legendary status in everything? I've played the game long enough to NOT want to go through it all again..........


Re: the first statement - good point. Tjmango this ain't bragging or meant as a criticism I only "offer" it up as encouragement.

All three of my alts have completed all current content and depending on the Fogbough temporary and customizable bonuses that have been mentioned before sit in the 200+ MR/200+ SP/50+ NR "realm". See my last three character links in my sig by actually clicking the pics.

And as other have mentioned previously some of that success comes from them being second run characters. However to be truthful much of it comes from the forum and wiki which benefited Hawk my main character.

My point is - hang in there. It's a little bit harder now vs. when I started to know an ordered run through content as the volume of updates has increased and the help categorizing them in the wiki has decreased. The latter being something I eventually hope to help remedy.

Like the others I'm guessing there are more manageable scenarios/quests that you can complete which will also help you gain XP, MR, SP and NR. To be honest I don't think Redwarren is "in your grasp" at your current level. However there are things you can do to get it there.

All the other advice is solid so there's no need to repeat it. However, even though much of the info is in wiki the Hints thread here in Help has some good info.

Re: Badstench's second point.....

BS I'm one of the players who have maxed on everything. I also only concentrated on one character. I had 2 once but dumped my other one. I can't imagine starting another one. Don't worry BS as long as the GM comes up with adventures you will still be logging in...........

..........The only difference is you won't have to go balls to the wall to grind anymore.

Well said BDK. However re: the thought of running/starting another character and I don't mean grinding.......

I guess "to each his/her own" as I'm really on the fence of late about starting a second AG account just so I can sheath Goblindoom and bask in the nostalgic "smell" of those leathers some more. In fact if the GMs latest announcement hadn't come out when it did with its "predicted business" times four no less I may have took the plunge already.


Don't give up yet!

I am with Spencer, can you provide us with a link to your profile?

Short, sweet and sound advice Don and though TC linked it in a separate post here it is again just in case.

I'm guessing this is the profile, http://www.sryth.com/ci.php?f_c=pcp.inc&f_i=1b1db38xce2700a38&f_r=h


Again, hang in there and good luck Tjmango. There's good advice in the other posts, but if you have other questions, concerns feel free to post - we've all been there it's just been longer ago for some than others.

__________________

[Scarbrow]

Moved to Help, given the huge amount of useful advices. This thread should be bookmarked to link to new and lost players

[tjmango]

The link posted above is indeed my profile. The only two adventures in my profile are the ones I cant complete and listed in my first post (Redwarren and Trail of Death).

Thats why Im so frustrated. I havent played in a while because I enjoyed reading the story as it unfolded but havent had anything new in a while, since I cant get by those last adventures. To all of those that got by without donating pebbles (I dont know what that is, but thats not the point) good on them, more power to them, etc etc. Unfortunately I am not among them.

I will try acting on some of the advice given here but much of it is foreign to me. For example, I thought I did all of the adventures in my home, but maybe not. Dont remember if I got a cloak out of it or not.

If it goes well, I will let you know. If not, I dont know what Im going to do yet. I enjoyed the game thoroughly while I felt I was able to progress, so if nothing else, I dont regret having played. I just have to wonder if I will have any fun with it from here on out.

Anyway, Im off to Sryth. Got some nooks and crannies to look into...

[Tetracapillactomist]

To all of those that got by without donating pebbles (I dont know what that is, but thats not the point) good on them, more power to them, etc etc. Unfortunately I am not among them.


A pebble is a tiny, smooth, rounded stone - unless of precious material, it should be worth less than a penny.

We do what we can.

[Oldschool]

Good luck tjmango.

A lot of stuff doesn't show in the log completed or not and some things will not show in the Adventure Finder you'll just have to find them or stumble upon them. However, there's not a large amount of stuff that doesn't show on the finder but there are some things. Unfortunately I can't recall specifics to either atm.

Don't overlook the links to the Quest List (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Quest_List) and the Startup Guide (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Character_Startup_Guide) that TC posted earlier. The list should give you and idea of where to look for potential quests and the guide besides being chock full of good info has some really helpful links to the old forum (you have to register there to enter). Also if I'm not mistaken there's a, maybe a few, pages/links/sections? indicating recommended progression at least to a certain point(s).

And although it's not laid out as handy as the Quest List here's the pages plural as there's a second one to the link for All Quests (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Category:All_Quests). And even at 217 total I still think there are a few to several missing. To me this gives a better "picture" of how much is out there. And I'm not sure but the PG scenarios (which I mention later) may not be listed here as well as some of the missing quests. Again I'm not sure as to the missing quests as the pages may have been started just not "filled out".

Also there are several primo items like the Finger of Dread, Wand of Dragonfire that are great handicappers to any characters arsenal.

And have you started Draidur's Mark, Solundur's Grand Ring of Illusion (RoI) or the Guilmaster's Melee Ladders yet. Also the Proving Ground Scenarios come to mind as well.

However be careful with the PGs since your rewards are penalized with defeats even if you quit/exit without saving. There are detailed or SPOILERISH pages on each Proving Ground and a general non spoilerish page. Here is the general one, http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Proving_Grounds which has links to the specific ones.

Also concerning the RoI, it's a progressively harder staged combat which is meant to take a while as your character progresses like Draidur's and the PGs. Also completing it with zero, one or two defeats gets you bonus rewards (3072 AS&P for none, 2048 AS&P for one or two) and like the PGs exiting without saving still results in defeats being recorded. Here's the wiki page which has the specifics like recommended MR/SP for each level, http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/RoI And the Phantom items are nice items as well.
And here's the detailed/SPOILERISH page on the Melee Ladders, http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Adventurers%27_Collective#The_Melee_Ladder

As well as Daidrur's which is also SPOILERISH. http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Daidrur

Again good luck.

[demojan777]

The link posted above is indeed my profile. The only two adventures in my profile are the ones I cant complete and listed in my first post (Redwarren and Trail of Death).

Thats why Im so frustrated. I havent played in a while because I enjoyed reading the story as it unfolded but havent had anything new in a while, since I cant get by those last adventures. To all of those that got by without donating pebbles (I dont know what that is, but thats not the point) good on them, more power to them, etc etc. Unfortunately I am not among them.

I will try acting on some of the advice given here but much of it is foreign to me. For example, I thought I did all of the adventures in my home, but maybe not. Dont remember if I got a cloak out of it or not.

If it goes well, I will let you know. If not, I dont know what Im going to do yet. I enjoyed the game thoroughly while I felt I was able to progress, so if nothing else, I dont regret having played. I just have to wonder if I will have any fun with it from here on out.

Anyway, Im off to Sryth. Got some nooks and crannies to look into...

In my experience, a lot of the stuff that I mentioned required me to do something before anything would show up in my Adventure Finder, and from my recollection the majority of things that make a difference between sucessfully progressing or not in Sryth never show up in the Adventure Finder at all; I either found out on my own or through the Forum or Wiki.

I think the reason not everything is spelled out is to encourage exploration, so often I will just hop on my mount and head out and visit every place on the map every now and then in case I'm missing something.

[scout1idf]

.....I think the reason not everything is spelled out is to encourage exploration, so often I will just hop on my mount and head out and visit every place on the map every now and then in case I'm missing something.

Good advice.

Scout hasn't done that since he got his carriage. Makes me wonder if the carriage was a good idea (other than not having to feed Recon as much and the speed of travel).