Donation question.

[Thor]

I have just read about donations in Sryth. Some people say that I have to donate a lot for AT to get descent gear for endgame and multiplayer scenarios.

If i donate 35$ every month would it be enough to get that gear or it is pointless: i'll have no chance to get gear for endgame content with this donation amount.

Thanks for reading and help.

Sorry for my bad english.

[Blackcrowe]

Hi Thor. Welcome to the forum.

Donations are very much up to the individual. There is no endgame in Sryth as the game is constantly being developed and new scenarios are added all the time - but yes, its easier to do some of the more difficult scenarios if you've donated and bought goods from Tallys or Talaro.

If you haven't become an AG member yet then I would definitely recommend paying the subscription fee as you will be able to access lots more content.

Once you are AG its a case of pay what you feel you can afford and is worthwhile. All donations go to support the GM so that he can concentrate on expanding Sryth as a full time endeavour. Some people donate lots and are able to easily accomplish all of the adventures and get to the top of player lists like The Battle Grounds. Others don't donate at all but still find that they can achieve an awful lot but things are more of a challenge - particularly in the tougher adventures and Proving Grounds.

$35 a month will certainly buy you lots of shiny items that help make things easier for you and support the GM too, but its really up to you to gauge what you want to spend as you go along. There are also a limited number of Adventurer Tokens available in the game which will help you upgrade your gear. You can find out how to make the most of them on the wiki.

Hope this helps. :)

[Thor]

Thanks for your answer!

So, paying 35-40$ per month will give me opportunity to see all the game contect and than new content and than and than and than again, yep?

[thingirl]

First off, welcome to the forum, Thor!!!!! Now, to answer your question....

No, actually. You do not have to donate at all to complete all available content. If you *want* to donate, you can, but you do not *have* to. Note that I'm not saying don't donate, it's just that I get really annoyed when people say that you have to donate to advance in Sryth. If fact, if you want to donate, please do. Just don't feel like you have to in order to advance.

The AG subscription fee is once a year for $20. However, there is an $50 option that gives you 80 ATs, which is a really nice discount from the normal donation rate. If you're already planning to donate, I'd say go for the $50 option. Also, start a new account and upgrade that one, because there's a bonus pack for upgrading within 3 days. An AG subscription gives you full access to the game.

The only thing that donating does for you is it gives you more ATs. The main use for ATs is buying stuff as Tallys' Trading Post. (There's also several other places where you can spend ATs on good stuff). However, do note that there are an incredible amount of ATs available in the game (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/AT#Sources_through_gameplay).

Also, if you do donate.... There is a sliding scale (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Adventurer_Tokens#Sources_outside_of_gameplay) of how many ATs you get per $10 donated. You get 16 ATs per $10 giving $10-$40, but you get 20 ATs per $10 for $100-$190. So maybe instead of donating $40 every month, you could save that money somewhere and donate $100-$120 every 3 months.

[Oldschool]

Welcome to the forum Thor.

Excellent posts especially by Thingirl whose advice I'll second.

Thor I run 4 characters one of which has benefited from donations and a few raffle wins. My other three haven't received anything that isn't obtainable without donating. All three are current on content - basically what one could call "endgame".

My main who has benefited from donations is higher ranked and also has better stats partly from more play and leveling and partly from better gear through donations and raffle wins. However my alts have still (so far) been able to complete all content without too much trouble and are ranked fairly high (60's) and interestingly enough though only operating off free gear they all also are ranked in the Hall of Champions equipment rankings. However they all have benefited from some limited time gear and ATs.

If you decide to donate it will definitely help you to progress through content and the rankings faster than if you don't. Also now you can split donated ATs between multiple characters should you choose to do so, but I like most folks concentrate primarily on one character.

Btw your English is good. Just wondering what your native language is if I may ask.

And again - welcome to the forum.

[Tetracapillactomist]

I have just read about donations in Sryth. Some people say that I have to donate a lot for AT to get descent gear for endgame and multiplayer scenarios.

If i donate 35$ every month would it be enough to get that gear or it is pointless: i'll have no chance to get gear for endgame content with this donation amount.

Well, more money always buys more things, right? And shinier things... All right, but having to donate a lot for ATs to get into the multiplayer battles and to finish big quests?

No.

Those people may be pushing your buttons, they want to discourage you. Or they just want shiny, pretty things, and are sad or angry because shiny pretty things usually cost money...

But in this game you find plenty of powerful items (and ATs!) to make your player character strong - for free.

The bold-lettered part in your sentence would be a sad thing, true in many games, maybe, but not in Sryth.

The single amount that counts the most, is that $19 and change for the whole year (less than $1.67 per month).

That one lets you play all the quests - and you can, if you do them in the right order, even without donating, as they all said before. No kidding. You can!

Just ask when you're stuck, when you're not sure about something, and before trying a quest, look it up in the Wiki, to make sure you can do that quest right then and there.

Here is the link to that list: Quest List (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Quest_List)

Some are more difficult - so you do the easier ones first, and you will earn plenty of ATs, as Thingirl said.

You don't believe me? Look at her main character, Alanne (just click on the name at the bottom of the posts): she didn't benefit from donations, and look the stats. Pretty much the same for Oldschool's characters, excepting Hawk. What do you think? Not too bad, right? :) Still feeling like you can't do those things you want without donating? ;)

So, the biggest favour you can do yourself right now, if you like the game, is to subscribe for that $1.67 a month. The rest really is optional, Thor, and I am really serious when I say that.

And if you decide to subscribe, here is the biggest help to make your player character as powerful as can be:

Character Startup Guide (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Character_Startup_Guide)

If you decide to wait, you can use this guide:

Non-AG Startup (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Non-AG_Startup)

And if you can afford $35 a month, do yourself a favour and listen to Thingirl's advice (with a little $30 correction, TG ;) See? She made a little mistake because she didn't have to donate to become much more powerful than I. ;) It's true.): first, get the $49.95 subscription: it gives you 80 ATs!

So that's $19.95 for the subscription to all the content, plus $30 for 80 ATs! That means more than 26 ATs for every $10. Much more than if you were to pay $35, which would only give you 16 ATs for every $10. (Also, you'd have to make it $40 or $30, because the limits are set to increments of 10 - so, at $30 you would normally get 48 ATs, and at $40 you'd receive 64 ATs - still less than 80, for $10 more!)

Here is the link to the subscription options, so you can judge for yourself:
Subscription page (http://www.sryth.com/ci.php?f_c=store.inc)

And even that is not needed, if you can't afford it! Not to mention that the game's creator is generous, and always has seasonal gifts of 16, 24 ATs, once you subscribe. He won't force you to donate by making the quests impossible for you! Take my word on that for now, even if you don't know me - not because you should trust me, but only because it is true.

In any case, if you like the game, don't bother allowing others to rain on your parade, saying you "have no chance to get gear for endgame content."

The game is huge, it's still growing, and you'll be given all the ATs you really need, and more - again: for free.

And if you do decide you want the most expensive things, then, if you want, you can donate, that's all... :) Nothing else, nothing sinister or pushy.

Good luck to you, Thor, and welcome to the forum. :)

[Nolly]

It isn't necessary to donate $35 a month to do end game content. I've donated only twice so far and have had no issues getting to where I am right now.

You have to think of progressing through the game like rock climbing. Think about where you are and where you want to go next and if it is too far a reach then try for something easier. If done in a thought out manner it will be easier to reach the top. Go through the quests one by one advancing your character and gear as it comes to you, trying to not take on one that is too far ahead of what you can handle. Then toss in donations as you see fit when you want to ease the load.

[Badstench]

All good advice, so you should totally ignore the judicial looking fellow sitting at the shadowed table in the corner of the room with the pile of donation receipts as he fondles a bigger pile of Adventure Tokens and mumbles repeatedly...

"My Precioussssss"

[texlaw1992]

.... you're better off not donating $35 per month and instead, for example, donating $100.00 every three months. You get more ATs (Adventurer Tokens) per each $10.00 of donation that way. Click on the "get more rewards for bigger donations) link in the building with the blue door for more info.

Edit: Whoops, didn't see that part of TG's post. Ah well, great minds think alike.

[Thor]

Friends, thank you for your hospitality and complete answers. In the near future Im going to become a proud member of the AG.:)

[Tetracapillactomist]

And we also owe you thanks for that - every little bit keeps the game live on and flourish. It deserves a thanks and a rep too, as it amounts to a gesture that helps all players play on. :)

If it will be past three days, seventy-two hours since your initial account creation, again: don't forget to create a new account, and a new player character along with it, as the bonuses are very much worth that additional small step. :)



.... you're better off not donating $35 per month and instead, for example, donating $100.00 every three months. You get more ATs (Adventurer Tokens) per each $10.00 of donation that way. Click on the "get more rewards for bigger donations) link in the building with the blue door for more info.

Very true, Tex, and it has a nice echo to it, as well. :) Inspired by TG's post? ;) (Only kidding - tiredness plays such tricks on the eyes.)

Also, if you do donate.... There is a sliding scale (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Adventurer_Tokens#Sources_outside_of_gameplay) of how many ATs you get per $10 donated. You get 16 ATs per $10 giving $10-$40, but you get 20 ATs per $10 for $100-$190. So maybe instead of donating $40 every month, you could save that money somewhere and donate $100-$120 every 3 months.

That's a nice leitmotif there... Well, if it's so consistently repeated, Thor, it is because it bears keeping in mind, and it's an echoing advice worth following.

If you are going to donate, maximise the return on your investment: you might even buy multiple years of subscriptions at some point, if only to get that advantageous proportion of dollars to ATs of 1:2.6, as some do - it is allowed. Or pool your money as TG first, then Tex above suggested. You're free to choose any method at any time, with which you feel comfortable and content (as long as it's in multiples of ten).

The AG membership is the most essential part for your enjoyment of the entire, game - the rest is icing on your shiny armour cake - your treat to yourself, as you'll find out - never demanded, but obviously, always welcome. :)

Good news then - and good luck to you!

I'll give you that thanking rep right away, if the limiter (yes, there is that thing :)) allows.

[texlaw1992]

It seems appropriate at this point to reiterate what I like to call the Forum's "Million Dollar Guarantee."

If you donate a million dollars to Sryth, people on the Forum will rep you.

Guaranteed.

[Tetracapillactomist]

(Is that how you've earned your reps, Tex? :))

But that's probably-absolutely-maybe true, Thor - donate, yes, but advertise it too!

"No marketing: no repping!" - as the old pitchman warned in Death of a Salesman (disclaimer: that there be a stinking lie of a claim on my part! Please don't sue me Sir! I just need one more serving of impishness and my duty here on this wretched ball of clay and mud be done!)

So yes, Thor, sell your schooner and your yacht - go for the Mill! ;) Because some people are not so generous with their reps as I, and they guard them jealously, like so many preciousss little rings. :D They'll take yours without so much as a thank you, but return a sour scowl and a fig. :)

A million dollars should ensure eternal courtesy and gratitude even from the likes of them! :D

(Then, later, you can can exchange your accumulated reps for the freedom of your soul, I heard! That is precisely what I am working towards at the moment... )

[Tetracapillactomist]

I just got the news about your brand new AG membership, and wanted to welcome you again (this time into the 'inner circle,' so to speak, and to the full experience), and congratulate and thank you at the same time on your decision for both giving yourself the opportunity to access the full game, and also supporting it. :)

So, welcome to the fold! As usual, you deserve at least another rep for that!


(Come to think of it, staff and members: if registering on the forum earns you ten reps automatically, shouldn't the 'registering' for a paid membership earn the newcomers at least as much again? As a matter of fact, I'd say, even more...

I also wonder how this hasn't occurred to anyone before, but I'm sure to be wrong about that, and it probably has...

Then again, it only occurred to me this instance, after writing the words "at least another rep," above... After all, reps are basically just a friendly gesture, no? Or an expression of appreciation, right? So, although opening up the full game is a reward in itself, a new supporter of the game probably does deserve some appreciation, just as that nebulous and ever-awaited million-dollar donator might deserve a lot - and if the forum registration has a standard number of reps assigned to it, why not this?... Just my "1,995 cents' worth.")


Back to you, Thor... :)

Here is (again? regardless!) the guide to start you off in your new status:

Character Startup Guide (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Character_Startup_Guide)

And the nearly complete list of quests, which is useful in determining whether your character is ready for a particular one you're contemplating, most of them linking to a detailed page devoted to the quest itself (you might want to keep these pages open in tabs adjoining the one in which you're running the game itself :))

Quest List (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Quest_List)

Again: good luck, and enjoy the full game!

[Thor]

Thanks again, mate!

[Badstench]

It has been said in this thread that saving money to donate will inevitably reward you with more AT's after a time. This is true. I don't refute it, but if you're like me, saving money isn't easy; there's always the temptation to spend those savings elsewhere.

I advocate spending small amounts regularly. That way, you don't notice the decreasing bank balance so much.

Yes, you might lose out in the long-term, but your sense of satisfaction will be fed more frequently. $10 a week isn't that much to anyone serious about increasing MR through Tallys' items.

And while you're spending, you can always upgrade in smaller increments.

My two cents worth.

[Sub Zero]

i think they all forgot to mention my fee to become an ag member:P 1million billion gazillion fabdabder.......yen

[Tetracapillactomist]

i think they all forgot to mention my fee to become an ag member:P 1million billion gazillion fabdabder.......yen

... I thought you're paid in souls, Subzee! :confused: