The "Repping" Room

[spencer]

OK, here is my best guess...Since the only thing that both parties would agree on is that the first guy found an envelope with 5750 dollars, then that envelope and amount would be awarded to the guy who found it. The guy who "lost" 8000 dollars gets nothing. I have a second idea if this is not correct....


the second idea is that the money gets awarded to the city in which it was found since it was a public restroom

[Doolipalally]

While we're waiting for the new server, why not try your hand at this one? (that ought to ensure it's back up and running any second now... :))

Here's a list of fantasy or sci-fi characters: can you name their creators? How many can you do without Googling?

(Answers in spoilers, please).

1. Heris Serrano
2. Loren Silvercloak
3. Prince Rohan
4. Hamish Alexander
5. Althea Vestrit
6. Erik von Darkmoor
7. Diziet Sma
8. Nevyn
9. Duke Isgrimnur
10. Sergeant Whiskyjack

Answers:

1. Elizabeth Moon (Serrano series)
2. Guy Gavriel Kay (Fianovar Tapestry trilogy)
3. Melanie Rawn (Sunrunner books)
4. David Weber (Honor Harrington series)
5. Robin Hobb (Liveship Traders trilogy)
6. Raymond E. Feist (Serpentwar saga)
7. Iain M. Banks (Culture novel 'Use of Weapons')
8. Katherine Kerr (Deverry series)
9. Tad Williams (Memory, Sorrow & Thorn series)
10. Steven Erikson (Malazan Book of the Fallen series)

Thanks to all those who had a go!

[zmflavius]

OK, here is my best guess...Since the only thing that both parties would agree on is that the first guy found an envelope with 5750 dollars, then that envelope and amount would be awarded to the guy who found it. The guy who "lost" 8000 dollars gets nothing. I have a second idea if this is not correct....


the second idea is that the money gets awarded to the city in which it was found since it was a public restroom

Yep, the first idea is correct.

The Judge said,

"Since the envelope found contained 5750 dollars, and not 8000 dollars, it must not be yours. Since nobody is claiming the 5750 dollars, the finder can keep it."

[Oldschool]

Answers:

1. Elizabeth Moon (Serrano series)
2. Guy Gavriel Kay (Fianovar Tapestry trilogy)
3. Melanie Rawn (Sunrunner books)
4. David Weber (Honor Harrington series)
5. Robin Hobb (Liveship Traders trilogy)
6. Raymond E. Feist (Serpentwar saga)
7. Iain M. Banks (Culture novel 'Use of Weapons')
8. Katherine Kerr (Deverry series)
9. Tad Williams (Memory, Sorrow & Thorn series)
10. Steven Erikson (Malazon Book of the Fallen series)

Thanks to all those who had a go!

Although I didn't post a direct reply I had a go so you're welcome.

Definitely a good list although it was a bit humbling to my sense of memory - well lack thereof would be a more accurate statement. And they say it only gets worse. Guess I'll console myself with fact that the reread factor increased, lol.

[Oldschool]

Game content inspired.

What do the following have in common (no googling please).

1. Lake Guanaco aka Lake Bermudez

2. McKittrick

3. Carpenteria

4. Pitch Lake

[texlaw1992]

All of them are tar pits of some sort?

[Oldschool]

Bingo! and duly repped.

Left out La Brea 'cause it's more well known and thought about leaving Pitch Lake out because of it's name.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tar_pit#Known_tar_pits

[spencer]

Trent's triumphs got me thinkin'...I know, I know, quite the dangerous prospect.

Anyway,

What did Rudyard Kipling call a triumph? That is, in a poem, he referred to a Triumph and .....something else as a Great what?

For a bonus, what did he lump with Triumph and call them both Great .....?

[Oldschool]

Good one Spencer.

Since my poetry knowledge is pretty limited I had to google that one. After which I recalled the poem although not the specifics - an excellent one I might add.

Follow up to Spencer's question.

And for another bonus what famous location is the passage that Spencer refers to written. (Found that out via my googling - kudos to Spencer for the inspiration).

[Doolipalally]

Trent's triumphs got me thinkin'...I know, I know, quite the dangerous prospect.

Anyway,

What did Rudyard Kipling call a triumph? That is, in a poem, he referred to a Triumph and .....something else as a Great what?

For a bonus, what did he lump with Triumph and call them both Great .....?

Slept on it, woke up none the wiser so Googled.

Do you mean the lines:

If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same

I wasn't sure, because the word 'Great' doesn't appear.

(Googled for Oldschool's question as well - very appropriate! :))

[spencer]

Correct and repped, dooli!! Sorry about the misquote with the word Great.

[zmflavius]

Who was the first person to be canonized as a saint?

[spencer]

I had to google this one...would not have guessed it.

[zmflavius]

I actually only noticed it because they put the article on wikipedia's front page.

The guy was canonized or born today or something like that.

[Doolipalally]

Seems to be complicated though. I read that he was the first person to be canonized who wasn't from Rome - on the grounds that before that, declaring saints was more of a local business. And we're ignoring the Orthodox Church.

[Oldschool]

Good point about ignoring the Orthodox Chrurch as well as a few other religions. And that's not including religions with their own versions of saints.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint

[zmflavius]

Hmmm...so would you rather me modify the question or just supply the name of the first saint officially canonized by the Vatican?

[Young Ned]

Another thread inspired this particular question:

How long did the Hundred Years' War actually last? (Hint: "100 years" is not the correct answer.)

[Doolipalally]

Another thread inspired this particular question:

How long did the Hundred Years' War actually last? (Hint: "100 years" is not the correct answer.)

I know it was longer than 100 years, but I can never remember the exact dates. Was it around 120 years? I'm guessing sort of 1340 to 1460.

[spencer]

I thought it was like 113 years, that would be my guess.

[zmflavius]

It was 116 years, from 1337 to 1453.

[Oldschool]

I don't know the answer to this (should be searched easily enough) but I wonder what the total would be if one subtracted the intervals of peace.

And if ZM hadn't already answered it I'd have given a ballpark estimate.

[Young Ned]

Zmflavius is correct! Have a rep, zm.

I don't know the answer to this (should be searched easily enough) but I wonder what the total would be if one subtracted the intervals of peace.

I didn't do the math, but I wondered that too. I think one of the intervals was more than 25 years, so it would have been a fair bit under 100 years if calculated that way.

[texlaw1992]

TG's recent rep put me at rep 333, which is half of rep 666.

I'm not sure if there's some hidden meaning here (lol).

[Oldschool]

Well don't fret here's another to put you over that possibly ominous "half" number.

The downside is you're now one more closer to the "whole" number. ;)

[thingirl]

I'm not sure if there's some hidden meaning here (lol).

It means you're only half evil ;)

JK, you're all good :)

[texlaw1992]

Of course, I am a lawyer, so some would say I've been there all along (lol).

[spencer]

I work in a fairly large analytical laboratory. We have a wide variety of instrumentation for a wide variety of tests. Many of the instruments require gases to assist in combustion, to carry sample or other parts of the analysis forward through the system and for other reasons. Examples of the gases used are Oxygen, Hydrogen, Nitrogen, Argon and a few others. Anyway, these gases are delivered by free standing tanks that have control valves to turn them on and off as needed. Like anything else, they have to changed periodically when they run out of what is inside them. We keep all of our spare tanks near the a set of rear doors in one part of the lab. At any given time, some of them are labeled as "M T" and others are not. The first person who can tell me what those letters mean gets a free rep. It took me two years of work to figure out what it means, in case anyone is wondering...

[Oldschool]

Had to google it so I spoilered it to give others a chance for the rep.

MT = eMpTy - that seems certain. Not sure what the abbreviation stands for except maybe, the MT is a play on "empty" as spoken.

[texlaw1992]

I'm pretty sure it's just what it says - empty.

[spencer]

I'm pretty sure it's just what it says - empty.

You are correct, Sir. It stands for Empty. It took me two years of trying to figure out what the letters meant and I was too embarrassed to ask. Repped.

[texlaw1992]

I'm glad it did not mean "Mighty Toxic" (lol).

[Dariel]

I got a question for you guys :D
What are the seven horcruxes of Lord Voldemort?
No looking in the books (I know you have all of them neatly stacked in your bookcase) or google.

[zmflavius]

Diadem
Nagini
Diary
Cup
Locket
Harry Potter
Ring

[Dariel]

Diadem
Nagini
Diary
Cup
Locket
Harry Potter
Ring

Correct! :D

[Oldschool]

Today marks the anniversary of the decision of George Harrison's (of the Beatles) Bright Tunes Music v. Harrisongs Music plagiarism case.

Harrison was found to have subconsciously plagiarized parts of an earlier song by another artist. It was one of Harrison's biggest solo hits.

Name either Harrison's song or the one he was found to have subconsciously copied. No googling please.

[texlaw1992]

I think it's the one where the video shows him in various poses in the same room with someone pretending to be him doing gymnastics at one point. Funny how I remember that, but not the name of the song.

[Oldschool]

Nice try but no cigar. Actually I don't think there's an official video of the song in question. But have a rep for remembering the "gymnastics".

And here's the video in question (gymnastics @ about 2:00), http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_niy2ZM5Jo

[Dariel]

I know this is slightly off-topic, but I have to say it. Paul McCartney and Ringo look pretty damn good for their age :D

[Oldschool]

No googling please........

Three-parter. Reps for each part and the last part has more than one reppable answer.

What treaty ended the American Revolutionary War?

And in it Britain was granted perpetual access to what part of the newly founded United States.

This perpetual access was revoked later. What revoked this perpetual access. To be honest I'm not sure of the exact answer as I'm aware of several possibilities.


And another multiple answers/reps possible question.

Who was the first US President born in the United States? Be specific as to why you chose your answer.

[texlaw1992]

I know the Treaty of Paris ended the Revolutionary War. I'm not sure about parts two and three.

As to the first US President born in the US, I'll go with my college history teacher's favorite, Martin van Buren. He was also (prior to George H.W. Bush) the last sitting VP to be elected Pres.

[Young Ned]

Today marks the anniversary of the decision of George Harrison's (of the Beatles) Bright Tunes Music v. Harrisongs Music plagiarism case.

Harrison was found to have subconsciously plagiarized parts of an earlier song by another artist. It was one of Harrison's biggest solo hits.

Name either Harrison's song or the one he was found to have subconsciously copied. No googling please.

Without any googling or youtubing, Harrison's song was "My Sweet Lord" and the original song was "He's So Fine", first recorded by one of those '60s girl groups, though I don't recall which one. The Crystals? The Ronettes? I'll give a rep to whomever can name the correct group.

(Jane Olivor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_Olivor) did a lovely version of "He's So Fine" in the late '70s/early '80s... slowed it down a bit and made it very sweet and sad.)

[Oldschool]

Correct on both answers Young Ned. And I'll dq myself on your follow up since I know it from googling my question. Which came courtesy of a local radio station who used that as a contest poser.

[Oldschool]

I know the Treaty of Paris ended the Revolutionary War. I'm not sure about parts two and three.

As to the first US President born in the US, I'll go with my college history teacher's favorite, Martin van Buren. He was also (prior to George H.W. Bush) the last sitting VP to be elected Pres.

Correct on the Treaty of Paris. And Martin van Buren is one of the answers I was looking for but why. Why is important because the whys are the reasoning behind multiple "correct" answers.

Regarding sitting VPs being elected President - what about Thomas Jefferson and John Adams? However, I guess theirs could be considered different since they actually didn't run for VP since back then the office of President was the only election with the Vice Presidency going to the runner up of the election. But they were elected President subsequent to their serving as VP.

And you've given me fodder for several possible follow ups.

[Dariel]

I know the answer to why Van Buren was the first president to be born in the U.S. (THANK YOU Mr. Shelley) It's because the presidents before him were born in colonies.
As for what part of the U.S. was given access to Britain, I was going to say Bahama Islands (1 of 3 parts) but then I remembered that they were captured by the French and some other guys (I wanna say Spanish...) so I'm going to say the Mississippi River

[Oldschool]

Correct on both counts Dariel. And as to Van Buren specifically. He was born after the Declaration of Independence.

And lemme recap the remaining unanswered questions.

No googling please........

Three-parter. Reps for each part and the last part has more than one reppable answer.

What treaty ended the American Revolutionary War?

And in it Britain was granted perpetual access to what part of the newly founded United States.

This perpetual access was revoked later. What revoked this perpetual access. To be honest I'm not sure of the exact answer as I'm aware of several possibilities.


And another multiple answers/reps possible question.

Who was the first US President born in the United States? Be specific as to why you chose your answer.

Two of three left.

[Dariel]

Is it okay if I use my history book for the last 2 presidents?XD

[texlaw1992]

I said Martin van Buren was the last sitting VP who was elected Pres. prior to George H. W. Bush. I never said he was the only sitting VP to be elected Pres.

[Oldschool]

Oops sorry Tex I should pay more attention. You know what they say about assumptions. (http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://chikapappi.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/motivational_assumptions.jpg&imgrefurl=http://chikapappi.com/2008/09/04/dont-make-an-ass-out-of-you-me/&usg=__VR6hoqbdiAJS8fhhpCKtS2LEMDw=&h=452&w=600&sz=82&hl=en&start=0&zoom=1&tbnid=ysvYGvzO850cgM:&tbnh=150&tbnw=199&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dass%2Bout%2Bof%2Bmyself%26um%3D1%26hl %3Den%26biw%3D1024%26bih%3D604%26tbs%3Disch:1&um=1&itbs=1&iact=rc&dur=384&ei=h4d_TOenGIH68AbopMBW&oei=h4d_TOenGIH68AbopMBW&esq=1&page=1&ndsp=12&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:0&tx=96&ty=85) :rolleyes::o

[Oldschool]

Is it okay if I use my history book for the last 2 presidents?XD

Well it's not googling. :) And I'm guessing it would only list one of the three I'm thinking of as arguments could be made for each of them.

Actually if you want to go ahead. It'd be interesting to see what it says.

[Dariel]

Can't find anything unfortunately :(
But...
Would it have anything to do with the Constitution?

Pertaining to the first sentence:
http://i54.tinypic.com/2ibiywm.jpg

[Oldschool]

Yes it would have something to do with one of the three possibilities. And one of the answers from my three parter has something to do with the remaining one.

[thingirl]

3-Parter...

My guess is that the Brit's rights to the Mississippi were revoked because of border security issues and/or/ shipping issues. Particularly, they could send solders up the river and over the Atlantic and have us pined in on two fronts. Or said solders could harass American traders and loggers floating stuff down the river.

Multiple-choice *grabs her US Presidents flashcards*
John Tyler, because he was the first President to be born after both the Constitution and Declaration of Independence were signed.

[Oldschool]

Correct on the question regarding the President and why - more specifically the first 'reason' you mention. That leaves one more which is the one that has something to do with one of the answers in my three parter.

And I'm not looking for the reasons/motivations for the abrogation/superseding of the perpetual access to the Mississippi but to what action/device/etc... could be said to have revoked said access. Again there may be one specific answer but I'm unaware of a specific one but I know there are multiple possibilities.

[scout1idf]

Just a stab in the dark..The War of 1812.

[Oldschool]

Correct that's one answer I'll accept.

And it was Britain who contested the rights - sort of.

After the War of 1812 Britain claimed the Treaty of Paris was annulled by that war. They further argued the treaty was voided since the Treaty of Ghent didn't reenact or otherwise reaffirm the Treaty of Paris nor specific parts of it. The US tried to say that certain parts of the Treaty weren't voided. This had nothing to do with Britain's access to the Mississippi as it just happened to be incidental to the big issue of the time the fishing rights that Britain had given America in the Grand Banks and the Gulf of St. Lawrence.

These issues weren't addressed in the Treaty of Ghent. Nor were they addressed with the later Rush-Bagot treaty which finally demilitarized the Great Lakes and Lake Champlain. Interestingly this treaty was raised post 9-11 when the US armed Coast Guard vessels on the Great Lakes. Canada determined that this wasn't a violation since this was for border security/law enforcement activities and they have the same rights.

The American fishing rights remained lost until some of them were restored by the Convention/Treaty of 1818. Interestingly enough amongst other things decided by the Treaty of 1818 were some territorial swaps between Great Britain and the US. Including the territory in present day US that Britain held which included the headwaters of the Mississippi - Lake Itasca. The access to the Mississippi was never addressed. And as far as I know it was never raised/contested during these subsequent conventions/treaties.

This swap was done because when the Treaty of Paris set that boundary area the geographical "parameters" (for lack of a better word) were unknown at the time. They set a boundary line that couldn't be met because geographically it didn't/doesn't exist. The swapping of land while it looks like it was done to make the northern boundary more linear there actually addressed that situation.

[Oldschool]

Remaining answers to my previous questions.

The first President born in the US.

Van Buren was born after the Declaration of Independence and John Tyler was born after the US Constitution went into effect which were already given.

The other answer I would've accepted - Zachary Taylor who was born after The Treaty of Paris which ended the American Revolution was ratified.



As for what 'revoked' Great Britain's perpetual access to the Mississippi.

The Lousiana Purchase which contained most of the Mississippi and the lands on both sides of it. Not sure about the headwaters (Lake Itasca) as iirc it was held by Great Britain until a land swap in 1818.

Pickney's Treaty which was between the US and Spain. In it Spain acknowledged the US had navigation rights on the river. However this was prior to both the Louisiana Purchase and the 1818 territorial swap. And during this time there were issues with Britain and France because of European conflicts amongst the three countries as well as the fact that both France and Britain held territories relating to the river.

Interestingly enough Jay's Treaty between Great Britain and the US reiterated Britain's access to the Mississippi amongst other things. It was after the Treaty of Paris and before the War of 1812 - not sure of anything more specific than that. The treaty was aimed at settling growing tensions between both countries that remained after the Revolutionary War. It failed to do so and rather miserably since most of the tensions remained and escalated resulting in the War of 1812.

[Oldschool]

Ok here's another.

And here's a hint: Although it deals with music (as a medium) it's more of a space/technology/communication question than a musical one.

What "album" includes such diverse tracks as Chuck Berry's Johnny B. Goode, The Navajo Nation's Night Chant, Blind Willie Johnson's Dark Was the NIght, Cold Was the Ground, part of Beethoven's Fifth Symphony and Stravinsky's The Rite of Spring to name a few.

[scout1idf]

The gold records on the Voyager space crafts.

[Oldschool]

Correct and repped when allowed since I still can't rep you.

For anyone interested, http://voyager.jpl.nasa.gov/spacecraft/goldenrec.html

[Elrond]

A British army of 1300 regulars and militia defeated an American army of 6000 regulars and militia despite the death of the charismatic British leader early on in the battle. Any guesses?

Answer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Queenston_Heights)

[spencer]

A British army of 1300 regulars and militia defeated an American army of 6000 regulars and militia despite the death of the charismatic British leader early on in the battle. Any guesses?

Answer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Queenston_Heights)

Great question, I had no idea...have a rep :)

[Oldschool]

Nice one Elrond, bookmarked the link for later. Knew the conflict and the campaign but not much more.

[Doolipalally]

Very interesting - thanks Elrond!

I have to confess I know almost nothing about the war of 1812. It's not something that seems to get mentioned much in the UK, so it's nice to get snippets to point me in that direction from this thread.

(I think it's because the battles of Trafalgar and Waterloo are such major events in British military history that we tend to focus much more on the Napoleonic wars in Europe at that time.)

[thingirl]

I have to confess I know almost nothing about the war of 1812. It's not something that seems to get mentioned much in the UK, so it's nice to get snippets to point me in that direction from this thread.

(I think it's because the battles of Trafalgar and Waterloo are such major events in British military history that we tend to focus much more on the Napoleonic wars in Europe at that time.)

It's very interesting to compare and contrast the news from different countries. One day I recorded BBC, ABC, and FOX and watched them all. It's amazing how British, American left (ABC), and American right (FOX) news is so different.


Here's an interesting one that's so simple when you see the answer, but ridiculously hard to answer. No researching this in any way at all.

A dad and his son are driving along the road. They get in a wreck with a truck. Unfortunately, the dad is killed instantly. The son is rushed to the hospital. The surgeon looks down and says "I can't operate on this boy. He's my son." Who is the surgeon?

[Oldschool]

A dad and his son are driving along the road. They get in a wreck with a truck. Unfortunately, the dad is killed instantly. The son is rushed to the hospital. The surgeon looks down and says "I can't operate on this boy. He's my son." Who is the surgeon?

The mother - nice one. :)

[scout1idf]

.....A dad and his son are driving along the road. They get in a wreck with a truck. Unfortunately, the dad is killed instantly. The son is rushed to the hospital. The surgeon looks down and says "I can't operate on this boy. He's my son." Who is the surgeon?

The surgeon is the boys mother.

[thingirl]

Correct, both of you. And you both get repps for typing as fast as me. :)

EDIT: Dear repp limiter, I hate you. That is all.

[Scarbrow]

EDIT: Dear repp limiter, I hate you. That is all.

Heh. The repp limiter is the only thing keeping us safe from Oldschool and you overflooding the system. Good boy, Repp limiter :D

[texlaw1992]

Maybe we need a double-post limiter too (lol).

[Oldschool]

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That's too darn funny. ;)

Especially when it's someone besides me for a change, lol.

[Doolipalally]

"Some people juggle geese"

Anyone know where this quote comes from? No Googling!

(And thanks to Badstench for inadvertently reminding me of the quote! ;))

[Oldschool]

Well here's a multi parter based on my current musical siggie.

The second line are all blues musicians - well actually Ben E. King is more soul.

So with that exception the others are all blues musicians/guitarists. Three of the four share a title and to me all four do or should.

What is it and which three?

And the other questions are one is/was "upside down backwards".

Which one and what does that mean?

And if you don't think the blues influenced modern classic rock play the links.

[Oldschool]

Times up......

B.B. King, Albert King and Freddie King are referred to as the Three Kings of the Blues Guitar. Earl King should be credited as the fourth King imo. Many artists have covered their collective works from Cream, Hendrix, Robert Palmer, SRV, Boz Scaggs, Danzig, Mayall, Clapton, Jack Bruce, Gary Moore, Jeff Beck to name a few. And some of these and others cite them as major influences. The links are the proverbial "proof of/in the pudding".

Albert King was "upside down backwards" meaning he played a right handed guitar flipped over so the strings were upside down and backwards.

And on a semi related note Bo Diddley among other titles was/is referred to as the Originator because of his involvement in the transformation of blues to rock. And just because I love this friggin' clip of Bo rocking, rolling and oozing stage presence in his mid to late forties.

Made for WIDEscreen and MAX volume :D, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFpv1LKrA9s

[Oldschool]

Here's another that should have more forum appeal.

A while back Martians among other things came up, so.......

Title and/or author. About a series of short stories that was later merged (for lack of a better word) into something between a collection and novel about humans fleeing a devastated Earth to Mars and the resulting interaction between them and the Martians.


Title and/or author. Famous novel about octopus like Martians invading Earth.

[zmflavius]

The Martin Chronicles by Ray Bradbury

War of the Worlds by H.G. Wells

[Oldschool]

Double bingo and duly repped.

When allowed that is.

[Doolipalally]

"Some people juggle geese"

Anyone know where this quote comes from? No Googling!



Have a whopping great clue - it comes from a fantastic TV series which was cancelled by a bunch of brainless idiots...

[Young Ned]

Have a whopping great clue - it comes from a fantastic TV series which was cancelled by a bunch of brainless idiots...

That doesn't narrow it down very much... :p

[Dariel]

Firefly?

[Doolipalally]

Firefly?

Correct and repped!

In case anyone hadn't noticed, I'm still really cross about that one...

[Oldschool]

*smacks forehead*

Now that you mention it....... :rolleyes:


****** OFF COLOR LANGUAGE ALERT ******

Firefly gag/blooper reel enjoy, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-H1BZ5QUMYM

[psychoadept]

"Some people juggle geese"

Anyone know where this quote comes from? No Googling!



Wasn't it Wash who said it? I can hear his voice, but I'm having trouble with context... Our Mrs. Reynolds, maybe?

[Doolipalally]

Wasn't it Wash who said it? I can hear his voice, but I'm having trouble with context... Our Mrs. Reynolds, maybe?


Yep, it was Wash, and that's the episode!

Early on in the episode he says:
"Every planet has its own weird customs. About a year before we met, I spent six weeks on a moon where the principal form of recreation was juggling geese. My hand to God. Baby geese. Goslings. They were juggled."

Then later on he refers back to it:
Zoe: If she can fly this thing, why just take the shuttle?
Wash: Maybe she likes shuttles. Some people juggle geese!

[psychoadept]

Right, I knew it had something to do with weird customs or rituals. :)

[Oldschool]

Just changed my musical siggie so here's a related question or two.

Two artists on my current sig are distantly related while one of them has a few more "musical" siblings - one who is famous in his/her own right.

Name any of them. Hint - they're all from a certain state in the U.S.. Think bourbon and horses. :cool:

And another reppable question related to the hint.

It is the only state to have a separate non-contiguous part of it surrounded by other states. Which state and/or what area is the one in question.

And unrelated...... Pooh fans (you know who you are ;)) should enjoy my Loggins & Messina track. By the way it's sort of a cover. The original is by the Nitty Gritty Dirty Band (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KJzwVu4Z90) but Loggins wrote it.

[psychoadept]

Well, the state you hinted is Kentucky...

[Oldschool]

Correct Psychoadept.

[Oldschool]

Just changed my musical siggie so here's a related question or two.

Two artists on my current sig are distantly related while one of them has a few more "musical" siblings - one who is famous in his/her own right.

Name any of them. Hint - they're all from a certain state in the U.S.. Think bourbon and horses. :cool:

And another reppable question related to the hint.

It is the only state to have a separate non-contiguous part of it surrounded by other states. Which state and/or what area is the one in question.

And unrelated...... Pooh fans (you know who you are ;)) should enjoy my Loggins & Messina track. By the way it's sort of a cover. The original is by the Nitty Gritty Dirty Band (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KJzwVu4Z90) but Loggins wrote it.

Well it's been a week. Psychoadept was correct with Kentucky and more specifically the Kentucky Bend. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kentucky_Bend)

The artists I'm talking about are all from Eastern Kentucky's coalfields. Loretta Lynn and Patty Loveless are cousins and Tanya Tucker is Loretta's sister. Loretta and Tanya also have some other musician siblings - Peggy Sue and Jay Lee Webb.

[spencer]

Tanya Tucker was the Lee Ann Rimes of my generation. I like listening to her music.

[Oldschool]

Jeez Louise I read Spencer's post and thought why's he talking about Tanya Tucker like he's replying to someone. Then I read my post - if I didn't know better I'd say I'd been on the vineyard roof when I posted those answers.

I like Tanya Tucker as well and was listening to a country playlist when I posted that answer which is wrong.

Tanya's not Loretta's sister - I meant to "say" Crystal Gayle. :o

I'll blame the playlist as I'm guessing Tanya was playing when I posted that. :rolleyes:

Here's a crossover hit by Tanya, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIlEFK0KZ6s which is actually a cover. Can't recall atm who the original artist is but I know The Hollies done a version (not the original) and if I'm not mistaken it was before Tanya's version.

[Dariel]

+1 rep to whoever names the song and artist concerning Warcraft III..:rolleyes:

[spencer]

Jeez Louise I read Spencer's post and thought why's he talking about Tanya Tucker like he's replying to someone. Then I read my post - if I didn't know better I'd say I'd been on the vineyard roof when I posted those answers.

I like Tanya Tucker as well and was listening to a country playlist when I posted that answer which is wrong.

Tanya's not Loretta's sister - I meant to "say" Crystal Gayle. :o

I'll blame the playlist as I'm guessing Tanya was playing when I posted that. :rolleyes:

Here's a crossover hit by Tanya, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIlEFK0KZ6s which is actually a cover. Can't recall atm who the original artist is but I know The Hollies done a version (not the original) and if I'm not mistaken it was before Tanya's version.

*snickers" So, I guess that Crystal Gayle is a coal miner's daughter, too. Maybe that's why she sang "You light up my life." Though, I doubt it was to a miner's helmet, but you never know.

[Young Ned]

*snickers" So, I guess that Crystal Gayle is a coal miner's daughter, too. Maybe that's why she sang "You light up my life." Though, I doubt it was to a miner's helmet, but you never know.

Wait, I thought Debbie Boone was the one who sang "You light up my life"?

[spencer]

Wait, I thought Debbie Boone was the one who sang "You light up my life"?

You, Sir, are, of course, correct!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You_Light_Up_My_Life_%28song%29

Repped for your good memory and for a tasteful correction :)

[Young Ned]

You, Sir, are, of course, correct!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You_Light_Up_My_Life_%28song%29

Repped for your good memory and for a tasteful correction :)

Thank you kindly, sir! :D

Although I see from your link that I misremembered her name as "Debbie" instead of the actual "Debby". Still, pretty good considering that song was number 1 more than 30 years ago...

[psychoadept]

+1 rep to whoever names the song and artist concerning Warcraft III..:rolleyes:


Basshunter - Vi sitter i ventrilo och spelar DotA


I love that song!

[Dariel]

Basshunter - Vi sitter i ventrilo och spelar DotA


I love that song!

Correct and repped!
I've been waiting for an answer for so long XD

[Oldschool]

Halloween themed multi repper.....


Ray Bradbury's Something Wicked This Way Comes title comes from what? Be specific.

What thriller that debuted on a Halloween past caused panic on it's premier and later controversy. Hint: The original work was set in London and the adaption that caused the panic and controversy was set in New Jersey.

[scout1idf]

Halloween themed multi repper.....



What thriller that debuted on a Halloween past caused panic on it's premier and later controversy. Hint: The original work was set in London and the adaption that caused the panic and controversy was set in New Jersey.

War of the Worlds

[spencer]

Halloween themed multi repper.....


Ray Bradbury's Something Wicked This Way Comes title comes from what? Be specific.



Well, they made a movie of the same name, but I only remember it is from a poem written some time ago.

Something like Jabberwock, but I know that's not it.

[texlaw1992]

Shakespeare's Macbeth.

The other: War of the Worlds, but Scout got it before I posted.

[Doolipalally]

Darn it, too late.

Since Oldschool said 'Be specific', I'll add that the Macbeth line is spoken by one of the witches:

'By the pricking of my thumbs
Something wicked this way comes'.

Enter Macbeth. Big hint that he's a bad guy...

[spencer]

LOL, Jabberwock....I need to go back to school...I googled the answer right after I posted and laughed out loud about it.

Nice job, tex and dooli and, good questions, OS. :)

[Oldschool]

Correct and reps to Scout, Texlaw and Dooli. By specific I was looking for Macbeth - not just Shakespeare but I liked Dooli's addition.

Since that was so quick here's a few follow ups of sorts.

The day after Halloween is known by many as what?

And the day after that as what?

And November is the month for one of the most well known meteor showers ever the Leonids. Peak viewing is around the middle of the month.

What is the origin of the name of the Leonids.



More stargazing event info.

And for astronomy buffs next month's Geminids shower is considered one of the best to view. And it is thought to be unique in that it's produced from an asteroid and not a comet.

Also for fellow stargazer's December 21st of this year not only marks the beginning of winter as well as winter's solstice (the shortest "day" of the year) but also a full moon and a full lunar eclipse.

Keep in mind dates are for the western hemisphere (mostly the Americas) and that viewing areas differ for events. For example the lunar eclipse is most visible from North America.

Useful links for anyone interested,

http://www.seasky.org/astronomy/astronomy_calendar_2010.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/December_2010_lunar_eclipse

[Doolipalally]

Correct and reps to Scout, Texlaw and Dooli. By specific I was looking for Macbeth - not just Shakespeare but I liked Dooli's addition.

Since that was so quick here's a few follow ups of sorts.

The day after Halloween is known by many as what?

And the day after that as what?



Halloween means Hallows Eve. This is because it's the day before All Hallows Day, which is more commonly known these days as All Saints' Day.

The day after is for everyone who isn't a saint - i.e. the rest of us - and is called All Souls' Day. (I have a reason for knowing that, which may become apparent tomorrow...)

I know nothing about asteroids, though!

[Oldschool]

Correct and repped.

The Leonids meteor shower question remains.

[scout1idf]

What is the origin of the name of the Leonids.


The meteors appear to come from the constellation Leo.

Another interesting thing about the Leonids, they are on a 33 year cycle where you see a "storm" instead of a "shower".

Unfortunately, the last "storm" in the cycle was in 1999 and for the most part, it fizzled. I was really looking forward to it since the previous one was 1 year before I was born and by the next one, 2032, I'm afraid a dark sky will be very rare and hard to find.

[Oldschool]

Correct and repped. Looks like the "best" shower this year may be yet to come with the Geminids which gets its name from the constellation Gemini.

Just checked and the moon will be around the first quarter (half showing) - hopefully the weather will cooperate.

More moon trivia - last New Year's Eve was notable in that in had a partial lunar eclipse (not visible from the US) and occurred during a blue moon - two full moons in one month. And both Dec 09 and Jan 10 had additional separate full moons.

[psychoadept]

LOL, Jabberwock....I need to go back to school...I googled the answer right after I posted and laughed out loud about it.

Nice job, tex and dooli and, good questions, OS. :)

Don't feel too bad, Spencer. I was thinking Poe until I googled it...

[texlaw1992]

It's also "Dia De Los Muertos" - Day of the Dead in Mexico and much of Latin America.

[Young Ned]

Today marks the anniversary of the decision of George Harrison's (of the Beatles) Bright Tunes Music v. Harrisongs Music plagiarism case.

Harrison was found to have subconsciously plagiarized parts of an earlier song by another artist. It was one of Harrison's biggest solo hits.

Name either Harrison's song or the one he was found to have subconsciously copied. No googling please.

Without any googling or youtubing, Harrison's song was "My Sweet Lord" and the original song was "He's So Fine", first recorded by one of those '60s girl groups, though I don't recall which one. The Crystals? The Ronettes? I'll give a rep to whomever can name the correct group.

Just realized I never followed up on this. The group that first performed "He's So Fine" was... (drum roll)... the Chiffons (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Chiffons).

Nobody posted or PM'd me an answer to this except Oldschool, and he disqualified himself because he'd found the answer while googling the details of his original question. However, since he was the only person who even attempted to answer, Oldschool gets the rep anyway! :D (When allowed.)

[Elrond]

Is Custer's last stand at the Battle of Little Big Horn the worst US military defeat in conflict with the Indians? The answer would be with a certain St. Claire (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Wabash)!

Here is something that drew a chuckle:

Desertion took its toll, and when the force finally got underway, it had dwindled to around 1,486 total men, and some 200-250 camp followers (wives, children, laundresses, and prostitutes).

[Lugwy]

That must be quite a burn if they had to add those to the tally. ;)

[Elrond]

That must be quite a burn if they had to add those to the tally. ;)

Yeah! None of them made it back! Maybe that's why G. Washington forced St. Claire to resign!

[Oldschool]

What fire is the worst, in terms of lives lost, in U.S. history?

Hint: It is not the Great Chicago Fire.

Follow-up: Although the fire's origin is unknown what is one theory regarding it?

Hint: The answer is also a theory for the origin of the Great Chicago Fire.

[texlaw1992]

I looked it up on Wikipedia, and had never heard of it before.

Anyway, since I didn't know it without looking, I'll leave it for someone else.

I still think Mrs. O'Leary's cow caused the Great Chicago Fire though (lol).

[Zedalion]

The Peshtigo fire was pretty bad, up by where my family is from.

But I don't know if it's the worst, and I didn't look it up.

[Oldschool]

Correct Zedalion and like Texlaw and many others I hadn't heard about it until I stumbled across it.

And here's a further hint regarding one of the theories of its origin as well as the Great Chicago Fire. It started on the same day as the Great Chicago Fire as well as several other major simultaneous fires in that region of the U.S..

Here's the wiki page on it which with a warning. It'll spoil the other question for anyone interested, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peshtigo_Fire

It seems I missed another good related question especially considering our membership. Fans of Mercedes Lackey may recall mention of both the Great Chicago Fire and Peshtigo Fire and their "origin" in the first book of her Elemental Masters series, Fire Rose. I've read some of her work and like it but I don't recall reading that series - I'll have to put it on my ever and over burgeoning list. Btw there's a link in the one above that'll take you to the pages on this bit.

[psychoadept]

A rep to anyone who can tell me what these three songs have in common:

Poser by Extize
No "W" by Ministry
Love Never Dies by Apoptygma Berzerk

Google away - it's there, but you won't find it at first glance

[Oldschool]

Didn't google but listened on YouTube so I'll spoil my guess. Plus others should give those a listen and it should be noticeable, especially on two of them. Btw nice selections Psychoadept. Familiar with the Ministry but not the others but very enjoyable to listen to.

Anyway my guess,

Took me a while to pin the guess down to anything but classical and the bit that is in one of the Conan films kept confusing me. I'm pretty sure this is it but the Apoptygma Bezerk cut was hard to nail down for me at least and there seems to be a few different versions of that song on YouTube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEllLECo4OM

Either way PA good question and I enjoyed listening to your selections and the answer - good stuff. :)

[psychoadept]

You got it!

The reason there are different versions (and you deserve extra kudos for doing it by ear) is that both Love Never Dies and No "W" were re-released later without the samples - some kind of copyright problem. Seems to be a recurring theme: it happened to KMFDM with Liebeslied, too. Not to mention the O Fortuna remix by Apotheosis.

[texlaw1992]

How about "all the titles have no w?" (lol)

[Oldschool]

Mine's been up for almost a week and I'm wanting to post another sometime before *DEJINX* tonight's update goes live so.

Zedalion was correct The Peshtigo fire was the worst in U.S. history even more so than The Great Chicago Fire. Both started on the same day as did several other large significant fires in that part of the country. One theory as to their origins is Biela's Comet. Rather fragments of it that fell to Earth after it disintegrated.

[Doolipalally]

Nice question, Oldschool. I'd never heard of the Peshtigo Fire, and the suggested cause is fascinating.

I'm going to nip in at this point and ask:

What links Nino Rota, Dire Straits and Sergei Prokofiev?

[texlaw1992]

How about that at one time or another, all of them have been in "Dire Straits?" (lol)

[Oldschool]

LOL.... I know it's musical given the names and I've been tempted to google but I'm having one of those something's tugging at the back of my mind "moments" with this one so I'll give it a bit of time.

I know, or think, Rota wrote the original Godfather theme which won an Oscar and Dire Straits has Grammy wins so I thought awards but I'm thinking film songs/scores but I'm not familiar enough with the others especially Prokofiev except that they were composers as is Mark Knopfler. So that's what I'm leaning towards.

Currently have Dire Straits playing on Jango maybe it'll jog something loose although currently the Eagles Hotel California is blaring which is apropos since Esoteric is still stuck at the skull teleporter.....
You can checkout any time you like but you can never leave.............
:cool::rolleyes:

[Oldschool]

Excellent one Dooli which I'll leave open since I had to resort to googling. Btw the way I really like the what links..... questions.

[Doolipalally]

I should have said that googling is welcome for all 'what links' questions I post - for me, that's half the fun!

Rep to Oldschool (when it lets me) for getting it right by googling :)

[Oldschool]

Thanks Dooli and good point about googling being half the fun. The only downside is those all too common instances when learning new stuff when those all too convenient links within links leads to the snowball effect and the corresponding sometime later.................. :rolleyes::)

[mahansolo]

being new to the forum, I can still in one glance see a common thread between Scarbrow and Elrond. What (or who) is the link?

answer:


http://www.filmbug.com/db/24032

[spencer]

What movie is the following line from:

"Goodbye, Mr. Spalding!"

The only hint that I will give is that it is my favorite movie.

[Oldschool]

*Language warning both links*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUEJszARn-4

Whoops..... you said Spalding not Wilson, plus Hank's didn't get that much air under Wilson. :cool: I couldn't find a clip but it's from The Natural in reference to Redford's character Roy Hobbs hitting a Spalding baseball, not a Wilson volleyball, for a homer. ;) Btw excellent movie Spencer.

And speaking of movie quotes I just seen a trailer for a remake of True Grit (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GkAH7IUWOE) and couldn't help but think of this one from the original. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKThgLq21Rc)

[Doolipalally]

What links Nino Rota, Dire Straits and Sergei Prokofiev?

OK, since it looks like Oldschool's the only one who's going for this, you can have the answer now:

Romeo & Juliet. Nino Rota, as well as the music for 'The Godfather', wrote the score for Zeffirelli's film version of the play. Dire Straits did a song called 'Romeo & Juliet'. Prokofiev wrote music for a ballet about them.

Kudos to Oldschool!

[Oldschool]

What famous and best selling author "wrote" and was granted a patent for a book with blank pages?

[Badstench]

Which famous American said: "Let's not be too rough on our own ignorance. After all, it's what makes America great!"

And who said this little gem: "We are paid to make for our mistakes. Not by our enemies, but by our friends".

[Doolipalally]

*goes off to think about all of those*

Actually I have no idea about either of Badstench's quote questions, but Oldschool's rings a definite bell...

[spencer]

What famous and best selling author "wrote" and was granted a patent for a book with blank pages?

No clue. I would try to think of some kind of eccentric writer, but that would not narrow it down any at all. I will just throw out a guess and say Ray Bradbury.

[spencer]

*Language warning both links*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUEJszARn-4

Whoops..... you said Spalding not Wilson, plus Hank's didn't get that much air under Wilson. :cool: I couldn't find a clip but it's from The Natural in reference to Redford's character Roy Hobbs hitting a Spalding baseball, not a Wilson volleyball, for a homer. ;) Btw excellent movie Spencer.

And speaking of movie quotes I just seen a trailer for a remake of True Grit (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GkAH7IUWOE) and couldn't help but think of this one from the original. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKThgLq21Rc)

You are correct, Sir!! Excellent job.

[spencer]

Which famous American said: "Let's not be too rough on our own ignorance. After all, it's what makes America great!"


That sounds a lot like Mark Twain. Just a guess.

[Badstench]

George W Bush and David Lange, in that order

[spencer]

Oh, Good Lord, I must apologize profusely to Mark Twain for thinking something that George Bush said be attributed to him.

[Oldschool]

Badstench's sound familiar so I'm going to stew on 'em for a bit before I go off to google which may or may not work of course.

EDIT: So much for stewing, eh? And don't you hate it when the two preceding posts are on a new page that you don't see till you post your reply and you wonder why it shows as new until you see the above and realize why. LOL.... Had my window open tending to rl stuff so it musta went up after the earlier ones.

And neither of those rang a bell Bastench - good ones. I musta been way off as I'm still having a feeling it's someone else. Maybe someone else borrowed those?

[texlaw1992]

My favorite quote, along those lines:

"If you have ignorance and confidence, success is sure."

[spencer]

My favorite quote, along those lines:

"If you have ignorance and confidence, success is sure."

Twain is definitely the man. That is a great quote.

[Doolipalally]

Noam Chomsky. Partly as a suggestion for Oldschool's question, but also because I like the name... :)

[spencer]

Probably an easy question, so, no googling, please.

The line below is one of my very favorite lines in a movie:

Earn more sessions by sleeveing!

What movie is that line from?

[spencer]

Apparently no one knows the answer, and that is cool. It does come up if you google it. It is from the 1987 Steve Martin and Darryl Hannah movie callded "Roxanne." If you have not seen it, I highly recommend it; it is hilariously funny.

[Oldschool]

Agreed - excellent movie Spencer. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23fisMIjELw

And this one's inspired by Onaya's siggie.

Which characters from LoTR said the following (some are partial quotes),

"War must be, while we defend our lives against a destroyer who would devour all; but I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend."Hint: "Who would lie idle when the king has returned?" And another......

"Faithless is he that says farewell when the road darkens,"Hint: Give me a row of orc-necks and room to swing and all weariness will fall from me!"

And one more......

In response to "What do your fear lady?"

"A cage," she said. "To stay behind bars, until use and old age accept them, and all chance of doing great deeds is gone beyond recall or desire."Hint: Where will wants not, a way opens.

[spencer]

Thanks to your hint, I think that I know number 2

Gimli

[thingirl]

I'm agree with Spencer on #2.

I think, but I'm not sure...

#1 = Aragorn

#3= Arwen

[Doolipalally]

I knew number three without the hint.

Eowyn

The others I got only with the hints.

Number 1

Faramir

Number 2

Gimli

Nice question!

[psychoadept]

Oh, Good Lord, I must apologize profusely to Mark Twain for thinking something that George Bush said be attributed to him.

Don't feel too bad, Spencer! The difference is that Twain would have said it ironically...

[Oldschool]

Dooli's correct so I'll post another but leave that one up for reps since she spoiled her answers.

Next a multi-parter.

What movie contains the following lines,

Comb the desert!Are we being too literal?Answer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtkK3eijBso&feature=related


Or these lines,

Dang that was lucky, doggone near lost a 400 dollar handcart. Send a wire to the main office and tell 'em that I said, "ow"!Answer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiUdtxe2YnU

[Young Ned]

Great clips, Oldschool. :D

[Oldschool]

Thanks. Definitely two of my favs and here's another two parter.


What movie did the following lines come from?

First one,

Ooh, I fell on my keys.
Hysterical attacks have a way of severely depleting one's blood sugar you know. Answer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ERAV57bqaU

Next,

Sedagive

Abby Normal

Answer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wP5Gcuwp2Sg&feature=related

[Oldschool]

Answers are spoiled in my previous questions re: Mel Brooks. So it's time for a holiday themed multi-repper. No googling please.

We've got a lot of cerebral power in the community so I'm trying to not give too much away with my questions. Hopefully in an attempt to do so my wording won't be too confusing.


Where is it and who made it..... ...always winter and never Christmas..... I'll accept either of two answers for both where and who - the real life ones and the fictitious ones.



What Christmas food is made from marsh whorts? I'm guessing there's a bit of a handicap for certain members.



Norse mythology - and arguably the start of Ragnarok.

Loki caused the death of Baldur by tricking Baldur's blind brother Hodur into killing him. How? I'm looking for a specific holiday reference in regards to how.

[Scarbrow]

I only know (I think) the fictional part of the first answer:

The Chronicles of Narnia. Several characters indicate this, but the first is probably Tumnus the faun

[thingirl]

First question

As Scarbrow said- Tumnus the Faun says that. It is on Lucy's first visit, and I believe it's when they're walking to his house.

So you could sort of say C.S. Lewis said it... :)

[texlaw1992]

As I recall, Baldur (or a god acting on his behalf) obtained a promise from every creature (sentient or not) in the world not to harm him. The gods would frequently throw all manner of things at Baldur, who laughed as they refused to strike him.

The only thing Baldur overlooked was the sickly mistletoe. Loki or Hodur turned the mistletoe into a sharp weapon and tricked Hodur into throwing it at Baldur, killing him.

Edit: Apparently I just ninja'd YN!

[Young Ned]

Question 1: I thought he was asking who was that person, not who said that phrase. The person who actually made it so it was always winter and never Christmas was the White Witch in The Lion, The Witch, and The Wardrobe, from the Chronicles of Narnia. And the where, of course, was Narnia.
No idea what he means by the real-life names.

Question 3: Baldur was killed by a thrown sprig of mistletoe. The gods and goddesses, because of some prophecy, had gone around asking all the plants and animals and rocks and objects in the world to swear that they would never harm Baldur. Mistletoe got overlooked somehow, no doubt because of Loki. :mad:

After that, they were amusing themselves by throwing things at Baldur and watching how everything veered away from him so as not to harm him. Hodur wanted to join in the fun, but being blind couldn't aim anything accurately enough. So Loki offered to guide his hand and gave him a sprig of mistletoe to throw, and, well, so long, Baldur! :(

Edit: Argh, ninja'd by Tex on the Baldur question. Good job, Tex!

[Oldschool]

Everyone repped when able, You have given out too much Reputation in the last 24 hours, try again later.Actually YN is correct in "who was" not "who said" and his answer is what I was specifically thinking about. However as I stated earlier my choice of words may be confusing to some. Besides if someone named the series instead of the specific book close enough.

YN the real life names was referring to the book title and author. Again my shrouded questions may have been confusing.

And iirc Baldur's mother Frigga? thought mistletoe couldn't pose a threat to Baldur so she didn't require the oath.

[Young Ned]

And iirc Baldur's mother Frigga? thought mistletoe couldn't pose a threat to Baldur so she didn't require the oath.

That's probably it. Been a long time since I last read Padraic Colum's Children of Odin...

[Oldschool]

Actually I just googled it which I normally do before or soon after I hit "submit" to double check and possibly come up with follow ups.

Anyhoo... seems there's two versions of why not.

One is more or less what I stated and the other's that mistetoe was too young to swear an oath.

[Oldschool]

-Tolkien/Middle Earth First Age multi-repper.
1. Who defeated Sauron in the First Age?
2. Who defeated Acagalon the Black?
3. Who did Sauron "surrender" to in the First Age?
4. What was Morgoth chained with after his defeat?
5. Morgoth was cast through what into the Void?
6. When is Morgoth supposed to return from the Void?

Scout that table making tool rocks! :D

[Scarbrow]

-Tolkien/Middle Earth First Age multi-repper.
1. Who defeated Sauron in the First Age?
2. Who defeated Acagalon the Black?
3. Who did Sauron "surrender" to in the First Age?
4. What was Morgoth chained with after his defeat?
5. Morgoth was cast through what into the Void?
6. When is Morgoth supposed to return from the Void?

From memory (might contain errors)

The Valar, but I cannot recall who, particularly. Tulkas, maybe? (After checking, in the First Age it seems it was Huan, the dog from Valinor)
Earendil
First Age? Valar again, I suppose. He "surrendered" to Numenoreans too, but that was Second Age, wasn't it?
Angainor is the name of the chain, forged by Aulë
Through the walls of night or something like that (Correction after Google: the Door of the Night
Never until the end of the ages? I'm sure it had a more concrete formulation, but I can't find it, even after checking

[Dariel]

-Tolkien/Middle Earth First Age multi-repper.
1. Who defeated Sauron in the First Age?
2. Who defeated Acagalon the Black?
3. Who did Sauron "surrender" to in the First Age?
4. What was Morgoth chained with after his defeat?
5. Morgoth was cast through what into the Void?
6. When is Morgoth supposed to return from the Void?

Scout that table making tool rocks! :D
1)Luthien/Lucien?
3)Eonwe/Enwe
5)Doors of the Night?Door of the Nights?
All I can remember :o

[Oldschool]

Jeez louise I shoulda knew those wouldn't stay up too long with this crowd. :D

@ Scarbrow - correct on 2, 4 and close on 5 and 6. Actually more or less correct on the last one but I'm thinking of a specific term - actually terms as there's a translation that I'm thinking of as well.

@ Dariel - correct on all which is 1, 3 and 5.

Which leaves just number six.

When is Morgoth supposed to return from the Void?

[Badstench]

1. Who defeated Sauron in the First Age?

2. Who defeated Ancagalon the Black?

3. Who did Sauron "surrender" to in the First Age?
Prabably my mother. She's often threatened me with all manner of harm for supposed crimes varying from not eating my brussel sprouts to negelecting the dog's daily walks. I'm not scared of anyone... except my mother. For some reason, I have this idea that my mother scares everyone.

And she's older than everyone I know. She often reminds me of this by demanding I show respect for her venerability and wisdom.

I also strongly suspect she won WW2 on her own.

4. What was Morgoth chained with after his defeat?
The Grindstone: when all his machinations for world domination came to naught, he had to take the first job that came along to make ends meet. The first job happened to be as apprentice to a mule that walked in circles around the grindstone of a wheat mill.

My mother owned the wheat mill.

5. Morgoth was cast through what into the Void?
My mother's critical eye. When output of flour suddenly decreased at the wheat mill, she discovered the mule was skiving off. The mule was whipped and Morgoth was booted into unemployment... otherwise known as, "The Great Void of Poverty".

6. When is Morgoth supposed to return from the Void?
After he eats his brussel sprouts and walks the dog for his mother. She might even let him watch a bit of TV.




What? The Lord of the Rings?.... Oh! That Morgoth!

[Elrond]

Prabably my mother. She's often threatened me with all manner of harm for supposed crimes varying from not eating my brussel sprouts to negelecting the dog's daily walks. I'm not scared of anyone... except my mother. For some reason, I have this idea that my mother scares everyone.

And she's older than everyone I know. She often reminds me of this by demanding I show respect for her venerability and wisdom.

I also strongly suspect she won WW2 on her own.


The Grindstone: when all his machinations for world domination came to naught, he had to take the first job that came along to make ends meet. The first job happened to be as apprentice to a mule that walked in circles around the grindstone of a wheat mill.

My mother owned the wheat mill.


My mother's critical eye. When output of flour suddenly decreased at the wheat mill, she discovered the mule was skiving off. The mule was whipped and Morgoth was booted into unemployment... otherwise known as, "The Great Void of Poverty".


After he eats his brussel sprouts and walks the dog for his mother. She might even let him watch a bit of TV.




What? The Lord of the Rings?.... Oh! That Morgoth!

You mean that you left your mother enough time, energy, and mental fortitude to do all those things. She must be a very exceptional woman indeed. :rolleyes:

[spencer]

not eating my brussel sprouts
And she's older than everyone I know. She often reminds me of this by demanding I show respect for her venerability and wisdom.






After he eats his brussel sprouts and walks the dog for his mother. She might even let him watch a bit of TV.




What? The Lord of the Rings?.... Oh! That Morgoth!

You should be scared of her. Brussels sprouts are good and good for you!!

[Young Ned]

You should be scared of her. Brussels sprouts are good and good for you!!

Maybe for you. Brussels sprouts are inedible to me...

[Doolipalally]

I really like Brussels sprouts.

There, I confessed it in public :)

[Lightwielder]

I really like Brussels sprouts.

There, I confessed it in public :)

My favorite vegetable is broccoli, though I've never been afraid to admit it to anyone. If they don't like broccoli, I don't really care. They don't have to eat it. Everybody's different, so go on and enjoy those brussel sprouts with pride, Dooli!

[Oldschool]

When is Morgoth supposed to return from the Void?

Dagor Dagorath the Last Battle.

[spencer]

Who penned this line:

anyone lived in a pretty how town

[Oldschool]

Hadn't a clue till I googled it. Repped for the "journey" - very good read and deeper than expected given the writing style.

[Oldschool]

More Tolkien - considering our playing field I tried to up the bar on this one.

After reluctantly asking for one ___#1___ received three from ___#2___ while ___#3___ asked thrice for one and was given none. Why?

Bonus questions:

Fill in the blanks for numbers 1, 2 and 3 using the common or more accepted names.

What is the significance/"translation" of #1 & #2 in relation to "it" (the italicized words)?

What is "it"?

And don't forget the "why" above.

Hints:

#1 Lockbearer

#2 Alatariel

#3 Curufinwe

Oh and don't forget to Vote for Sryth via the links in my sig - thanks.

[spencer]

Who penned this line:

anyone lived in a pretty how town

I will give it away with a hint.

the poet who wrote this line is famous for not using capital letters or much punctuation at all

he even expresses his name in lower case letters

[Young Ned]

I will give it away with a hint.

the poet who wrote this line is famous for not using capital letters or much punctuation at all

he even expresses his name in lower case letters

That gave it away, all right. Soon as I saw that huge hint I knew it had to be e.e. cummings. Google obligingly called up the entire poem for me... which I have to admit I found really difficult to follow. I can figure out the basic idea of it, but the specifics escape me. Is this poet always so... experimental? I haven't read much of his stuff, but what little I have read seemed pretty intelligible. (Unless what I'm remembering was written by someone else entirely, which is entirely possible, given how long ago it all was and how vague my memories are.)

[Badstench]

@ Oldschool's last question... you said it considered Tolkien.

That doesn't necessarily mean a subject from the Lord of the Rings. I saw your riddle and was reminded of a passage from Tolkien's book titled "Farmer Giles of Ham".

Wherein it is written, "Not once was the pig chased, but never caught. Three times he wasn't caught."

[Oldschool]

Correct Tolkien not just LoTR.

Interesting passage - that's not what I'm looking for but it could've played in there nicely considering.

A mixture of, but not limited to; LoTR and HoME (History of Middle Earth) - iirc specifically Morgoth's Ring and The People's of Middle Earth from HoME.

I say not limited to because I think that's where the info comes from and with Tolkien much info is repeated by both him and his son in other works. Also much of the HoME are notes, history, etc... related to other works like LoTR and the Silmarillion. I confirmed it via Googling - it's been awhile since I've read all that so I wanted to double check my facts. And while I was able to confirm them I'm not positive where the info is mentioned or if it's the only mention. And a bit of a confession - while the initial question and some of the follow ups/bonuses came unaided some of the bonus ones came from the Googling. My memory ain't that good and with this crowd a handicap is warranted.

I've been thinking about re reading the Hobbit and LoTR - maybe I'll add the Silmarillion and HoME to the list.

[spencer]

That gave it away, all right. Soon as I saw that huge hint I knew it had to be e.e. cummings. Google obligingly called up the entire poem for me... which I have to admit I found really difficult to follow. I can figure out the basic idea of it, but the specifics escape me. Is this poet always so... experimental? I haven't read much of his stuff, but what little I have read seemed pretty intelligible. (Unless what I'm remembering was written by someone else entirely, which is entirely possible, given how long ago it all was and how vague my memories are.)

You are correct, Sir!! Hop Repped!! As to the poet, he is very unconventional, but I think says a great deal.

[Badstench]

Oh, I meant to mention... a few days ago, the set of Hobbiton was closed to the public. Filming of the movie has started.

[Scarbrow]

More Tolkien - considering our playing field I tried to up the bar on this one.

After reluctantly asking for one ___#1___ received three from ___#2___ while ___#3___ asked thrice for one and was given none. Why?

Bonus questions:

Fill in the blanks for numbers 1, 2 and 3 using the common or more accepted names.

What is the significance/"translation" of #1 & #2 in relation to "it" (the italicized words)?

What is "it"?

And don't forget the "why" above.

Hints:

#1 Lockbearer

#2 Alatariel

#3 Curufinwe

Oh and don't forget to Vote for Sryth via the links in my sig - thanks.



Mmmm, this is a tough one, it seems. I'm going to risk an answer without googling.

The reference to "Reluctantly" and one to three leads me to
Gimli, who asked for a hair (or lock) from Galadriel's golden hair, and received three instead, to keep as a treasure. He was the first dwarf recorded to fall in love with an elf, by the way. And probably the last one, too, now I think about it

However, #3 is obscure to be, although your hint leads to
Fëanor, also called Curufinwë (fire spirit). He crafted the Silmarils, which were then stolen by Melkor (Morgoth). I can just assume the "three times" is a reference of the times he demanded Morgoth to return them, with no success, during the events of Feanor's Oath, which makes the bulk of the drama (through his children) during the Silmarillion

However, he wasn't asking for one, but for three, so I must be misguided at some point. And if the "it" is the same thing (or kind of things) then I'm completely in the dark

EDIT: After Googling, I must congratulate you, OS, for the election of her name. Frankly obscure. It also means my first guess was right.

Also, I've dug up my copy of the Silmarillion, and
although I've read the whole part between the birth and death of Feanor, I cannot find any reference to three times, except the three times Feanor curses the memory of Morgoth when he's dying.

Unless I'm even more misguided than I initially thought. I'm eager to hear the correct answers.

[Oldschool]

Well done Scarbrow - duly repped.

And it's been up long enough to give most folks a chance so......



After reluctantly asking for one strand of hair #1-Gimli received three from #2-Galadriel while #3-Feanor asked thrice for one and was given none. Why?

What is the significance/"translation" of #1 & #2 in relation to "it" (the italicized words)?

Realized the above was poorly worded on re-read. Should have been the significance of the translation of the hints below.

Anyhoo....

#1 Lockbearer is of course the name given to Gimli by Galadriel after she gave Gimli three of her golden locks.

#2 Alatariel is the name given to Galadriel by her husband Celeborn meaning "Maiden crowned with a radiant garland". Which of course referred to her hair.

What is "it"? Galadriel's hair

And don't forget the "why" above.

Fill in the blanks for numbers 1, 2 and 3 using the common or more accepted names. Done

Hints:

#1 Lockbearer

#2 Alatariel

#3 Curufinwe

Oh and don't forget to Vote for Sryth via the links in my sig - thanks.

Feanor aka Curufinwe asked Galadriel aka Alatariel for a single hair on at least three different occasions and was refused each and every time.

Feanor had begged her thrice for a tress and thrice she refused to give him even one hair. It is said that these two kinsfolk, being considered the greatest of the Eldar of Valinor, remain unfriends forever.

As for where that comes from I know it's mentioned in History of Middle Earth and I think the Peoples of Middle Earth and Unfinished Tales after checking myself via Googling. Of course HoME is pretty much a compilation of all of J.R.R. Tolkien's materials and then some "extrapolating" by his son Christopher.

As to why? that's open to debate since iirc it's not mentioned directly, but here's my two cents worth....

Galadriel's dislike for and distrust/concern of Feanor has to figure in for one. Also Gimli's request came reluctantly and then only after being asked was one of admiration/remembrance whereas Feanor's was unsolicited and knowing their relationship was more likely to be one of dominion for lack of a better word.

Still can you imagine Feanor if he would've been there to witness Galadriel's gift to the Dwarf?

Gotta confess Scarbrow that name/hint reference was one of those that I came up with after my confirmation/double check googling but it was too good to pass up. Actually I sometimes google my questions to check myself and especially with the multi-parters it's also good for farming out other questions/answers. And that's also where the actual quote above comes from as well.

[Oldschool]

Oh, I meant to mention... a few days ago, the set of Hobbiton was closed to the public. Filming of the movie has started.

Speaking of The Hobbit.....

Most everyone knows my like of music so I can't help but wonder about the soundtrack and if this little gem (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LR-MSZSLC5w&feature=related) will make it into the film.

And they could even get Leonard to do a guest spot and actually sing it - sort of an Elvish Bard version. After all he's probably got a extra pair or two of prosthetic Vulcan Elven ears laying around. :cool:

[Blackcrowe]

Time for a bit of a tangent on the line of questioning here-


Durin, Dvalin, Dain, Thorin, Bifur, Bombur, Nori, Oin, Fili, Kili, Gloin, Ori, Dori and Gandalf.

Q1. What race of beings are they all from?

Q2. In which literary work would you find them all mentioned?

[thingirl]

Q1. I have no idea. I'd say Dwarfs, except Gandalf...

Q2. The Silmarillion

[Blackcrowe]

Good effort Thingirl! But not quite right I'm afraid.

All the names are certainly Tolkiens Dwarves, except Gandalf, as you say.
And its not The Silmarillion.

Its Gandalf that makes the question tricky. :p

I'm looking for one race that they ALL belong to and where you would find them.

[smv1973]

Q1. Dwarf & Gandalf is An ancient spirit from outside the World. They are all free peoples.

Q2. The Hobbit

[Blackcrowe]

Thats an interesting way of looking at it but again its not what I'm after.

They all belong to one specific race....
The race isn't 'Dwarves except Gandalf', nor is it 'otherworldly spirits'.

As for the work they come from....its a bit older than The Hobbit. ;)

[Badstench]

I can't remember the name, but it's something like Evari or Estari?

I'll go with Silmarillion to part two.

[Blackcrowe]

I think you're thinking of the Istari - which were Tolkiens Wizards - Saruman, Gandalf, Radagast and the Blue Wizards.

Its a no again, I'm afraid.

As for where you find them.....its older than the Silmarillion too. ;)

[Oldschool]

Children of Aule (not Iluvutar) for the dwarves and Gandalf aka Ollorin (?) was from Manwe. Both are Vala so that's my guess. Had to edit this as I left part of it out as I don't think that's it but I'll be damned if I can think of it.

Older than the Hobbit? Not much of his works unless you go to his academic stuff and his poems.

Unless you're counting his stuff that was compiled by his son and others published after his death.

And that's what I'm going to go with since I can't think of anything else. I'd say History of Middle Earth but it's so broad that'd be cheating imo. So I'll go with The Book of Lost Tales which makes up part of HoME. And I'm thinking therein lies the answer to the other question as dwarves were originally evil and hostile to elves.

I'm nearly positive it's there somewhere and I've left this hanging long enough to know I'm probably not coming up with it on my own.

Good question Blackcrowe I'm waiting for the answers.

Edit: See first answer above and googling ain't revealing squat just driving any semblance of an answer further from my head.

[zmflavius]

1) No idea.

2) I just read this a few months ago: Return of the King Appendix.

[Blackcrowe]

I knew it was a hard one when I asked it. Suppose I better give a bit more of a clue.

Remeber we're going off at a tangent from the previous questions here.

The answer to part one was almost right first time.

The answer to part two is MUCH older than all of the books quoted thus far. (Good and unexpected call by zmflavious by the way...all of those names are in fact listed in the Return of the King appendix...but they aren't the names of the ones referred to in my question...the appendix lists a load of dwarves and a wizard wheras mine are all of the same race :p)

[Oldschool]

The answer to part two is MUCH older than all of the books quoted thus far.)

You sneaky $^#^@#* ;) Now I know what you meant but I can't recall the friggin' titles but its the Norse poem "collection" titled something along the lines of Eddica or something like that which is what Tolkien based some of his dwarf "stuff" on including the names.

As for the first part I'm looking for one race that they ALL belong to and where you would find them. And since TG's first answer was almost right and since I'm now thinking out of the Tolkien box so to speak I'm going to say Dwarves or more precisely Norse dwarves of which I'm thinking Gandalf was another named one and possibly magical. But for some reason I'm also thinking there's an elvish connection even in Norse mythology.

Goes off to google Norse dwarves NOT Tolkien dwarves.

EDIT: Gotta apologize for my trash talking of Google earlier when I couldn't find squat since I wasn't using the right search terms.

Bingo on the first two searches with the right terms.

Searching Gandalf Norse, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gandalf_%28Norse_mythology%29

And Dwarves Norse, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwarf_%28Germanic_mythology%29

Repped for the question Blackcrowe and for some very well calculated chicanery. ;)

[Blackcrowe]

Well done Oldschool. Your reps on the way. :)

They are in fact dwarf names (http://axebow.hakaze.com/char/edda.htm) from The Edda.

Tolkien borrowed them all from a 13th century Scandinavian work on Norse mythology (http://gn250.pbworks.com/w/page/36678658/J-R-R-Tolkien).

Apologies for the sneakiness of the question.:D

[Oldschool]

Thanks Blackcrowe and I figured there was some trickery involved but I got so hung up on earlier Tolkien stuff and considering the Hobbit is one of his earliest - maybe his first? - book that isn't poetry or academic I thought about his manuscripts, reference works, notes, etc... etc... etc... which make up much of "his" posthumous work. But I couldn't think of anything.

While I didn't think it was from any of his poetry/song works I did think it could be from some of his academic stuff but I'm not overly familiar with much of it at all so I dismissed it.

Never even considered it might be farther back and "off" the basis for some of his stuff. That was until your clue about it being MUCH farther back which turned the proverbial ole light bulb on for me. Nice clue or I'd still be grumbling and googling I'm afraid.

I'm trying to think of a good riposte but the smoke's not cleared out of my ears yet, lol.

Edit: Btw, nice links.

[Doolipalally]

Very nice question! I knew Gandalf was the name of a dwarf in Norse mythology, but I'd no idea what the source was. I noticed you'd typed 'Dvalin' not 'Dwalin' and wondered whether that was a clue or a typo :)

[spencer]

OK, boys and girls

Who starred in the 80's American TV show that shares a name with yours truly? No googlin', please. Gigglin', however, is perfectly acceptable.

[Oldschool]

I think that be Robert Ulrich but wasn't it Spenser, with an s, for Hire?

Now off for a confirmation google.

Edit: That be correct except it be Robert Urich without an l. ;)

And folks that may not recall that series may recall him from other stuff like the tv series Vegas or Vega$ or as Jake Spoon in Lonesome Dove. And a reminder courtesy of Wikipedia - he also was a long running host of National Geographic Explorer.

[spencer]

I think that be Robert Ulrich but wasn't it Spenser, with an s, for Hire?

Now off for a confirmation google.

Edit: That be correct except it be Robert Urich without an l. ;)

And folks that may not recall that series may recall him from other stuff like the tv series Vegas or Vega$ or as Jake Spoon in Lonesome Dove. And a reminder courtesy of Wikipedia - he also was a long running host of National Geographic Explorer.

You are correct of course, including with the spelling. Have a rep!!

Now for the easy follow up....

What famous literary figure shares that name and what is his most famous work?

[Oldschool]

I'll give someone else a shot at the follow-up.

Besides, given Spenser's sidekick's name knowing that was a given for me. ;)

[Tetracapillactomist]

You are correct of course, including with the spelling. Have a rep!!

Now for the easy follow up....

What famous literary figure shares that name and what is his most famous work?

Hardly come here, for fear of having to face my ignorance denied, and I keep thinking there are perhaps two others in the murky recesses of my mind with that name, but trying to dig them up brings nothing to the surface at the moment... Not too long ago I had a big miss like that, completely failing to think of a writer bearing a name shared by several, and the name I missed was one the most everyone knows... So then, for the chance to claim another 'epic fail,' I'll go with... Having written all that preamble, I just realised I'm hesitating about his given name's spelling. Edmund or Edmond Spenser - Rostand is Edmond, so I'll go with the more fitting English spelling Edmund, and The Faerie Queene.

Well, this is a high-brow establishment you're running here, good sir knight!... :) I'll go hide now, in case a big guffaw (;)) erupts following my exit. (Although it's a fairly big Spenser I picked, so I'm half-kidding - still, let me know in the rep, whether it's safe to come back. :) No rep, and you won't see me here for another year - not a bad deal I'm offering, eh? :))

(Swear I feel like I'm passing exams again... :))

(edit) Just caught your words again: "now for the easy follow-up..." Nothing more enjoyable and more mirth-inducing than missing the ones already declared easy, ahead of the answer. ;)

[spencer]

Hardly come here, for fear of having to face my ignorance denied, and I keep thinking there are perhaps two others in the murky recesses of my mind with that name, but trying to dig them up brings nothing to the surface at the moment... Not too long ago I had a big miss like that, completely failing to think of a writer bearing a name shared by several, and the name I missed was one the most everyone knows... So then, for the chance to claim another 'epic fail,' I'll go with... Having written all that preamble, I just realised I'm hesitating about his given name's spelling. Edmund or Edmond Spenser - Rostand is Edmond, so I'll go with the more fitting English spelling Edmund, and The Faerie Queene.

Well, this is a high-brow establishment you're running here, good sir knight!... :) I'll go hide now, in case a big guffaw (;)) erupts following my exit. (Although it's a fairly big Spenser I picked, so I'm half-kidding - still, let me know in the rep, whether it's safe to come back. :) No rep, and you won't see me here for another year - not a bad deal I'm offering, eh? :))

(Swear I feel like I'm passing exams again... :))

(edit) Just caught your words again: "now for the easy follow-up..." Nothing more enjoyable and more mirth-inducing than missing the ones already declared easy, ahead of the answer. ;)

You sir, are correct of course! Sit repped :)

[spencer]

Now, in keeping with the same theme, there is a very famous Kiwi who shares the same first name with our literary figure above.

Easy peasy lemon squeezie, but you get a rep, nay the less, if you can name him and what he might have done. Just in case there are multiple answers, also please state what he did. I will, at last, add, that the person I am thinking of was the first to accomplish something.

[Doolipalally]

If the person you're thinking of is also the person I'm thinking of, then

Edmund Hillary, who with Sherpa Tensing was the first to make a successful ascent of Mount Everest

[spencer]

If the person you're thinking of is also the person I'm thinking of, then

Edmund Hillary, who with Sherpa Tensing was the first to make a successful ascent of Mount Everest

You are correct, Madam. I owe you one reputation point :)

Next question:

Name one movie that any actress who shares a name with our accomplished climber (what the heck, either of them) has appeared in. NO googling please.

[Oldschool]

Hillary Swank - Million Dollar Baby.

Nice line of questions....

[spencer]

Hillary Swank - Million Dollar Baby.

Nice line of questions....

Correct!! But I will have to wait a bit before I can rep you.

Hmmm, what question next? Anybody want to try? I am drawing a blank for now?

[Oldschool]

Same here but I was watching Shawshank Redemption one of my favorites which stars one of Swank's costars from Million Dollar Baby.

So..... name another movie that both of Swank's costars worked together on and not necessarily as actors. There's two that come immediately to mind one obvious and one not so obvious. And I know both are mentioned in the Screening Room.

[Badstench]

Clint Eastwood directed the movie, which also included Morgan Freeman.

But I can't remember a movie that starred both of them.

So, I Googled. And I came across the name, Jay Baruchel. I rate this young actor highly, though I don't know if he's the answer either.

[Oldschool]

Re: Jay Baruchel. Courtesy of Wikipedia as I wasn't familiar with him till I came across this. He was in Million Dollar Baby.


Jay Baruchel as Danger Barch, a would-be boxer with more enthusiasm than talent

They actually starred in two movies together - Million Dollar Baby and one other that is one of the possible answers to my question. The other one Eastwood directed only (he also directed Million Dollar Baby and the other they starred in together).

I should point out that there may be others they worked together on there's just three that I recall.

[Oldschool]

Left the previous question hanging too long as I forgot about it till Badstench's recent movie post jogged my memory.

The other movies, besides Million Dollar Baby, that Morgan Freeman and Clint Eastwood worked together on are as follows.

You're probably going to kick yourselves on the first one. And Rugger fans may kick themselves on the second as well.....

Unforgiven which starred Eastwood who also directed.

And Invictus which starred Freeman, while Eastwood didn't appear in it he did direct it.

And since Badstench's post brought me here....

He mentioned The Season of the Witch in his Screening Room post and remarked that he liked the way it started but hated the way it ended but liked the alternate ending.

While Million Dollar Baby is an excellent movie well deserving of all its accolades I hated the ending and wished it had an alternate ending.

[Oldschool]

WW I......

A. Which country was NOT a member of the Triple Entente (Allied forces)?


France
Britain
United States
Russia

B. What was one of the key reasons (there's a few) for the U.S. to end it's non intervention policy and actively join the war by officially declaring it? Not looking for the sinking of the Lustiana as after it Germany suspended sinking merchant shipping for a time.

C. What was one of the best kept secrets of the war for years by the French?

D. This dreaded weapon (be specific) was actually used mainly to harass and wound or disable the enemy and disrupt their lines/side of the battlefied?

[spencer]

I'll try for A and D.

A United States

D Mustard gas

[Doolipalally]

WW I......

A. Which country was NOT a member of the Triple Entente (Allied forces)?


France
Britain
United States
Russia

B. What was one of the key reasons (there's a few) for the U.S. to end it's non intervention policy and actively join the war by officially declaring it? Not looking for the sinking of the Lustiana as after it Germany suspended sinking merchant shipping for a time.

C. What was one of the best kept secrets of the war for years by the French?

D. This dreaded weapon (be specific) was actually used mainly to harass and wound or disable the enemy and disrupt their lines/side of the battlefied?

Well, I think I know one, and will guess at the others:

A United States. Not part of the original pre-war alliance.

B I used to know this. I distinctly remember learning it for exams when I was 16. Um. Is it something to do with the revolution and change of government in Russia? Was there a fear that if the Russians pulled out of the war the Germans would have too much power?

C This I really don't know. The identity of Mademoiselle from Armentieres (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mademoiselle_from_Armenti%C3%A8res)?

D I'll guess gas - chlorine and mustard gas were both used.

[Oldschool]

Two answered correctly so far,

A. United States per Dooli's reasoning

D. Gas, specifically Mustard

[Oldschool]

Well it's been awhile and I'm ready for a new poser or two and A and D were answered by Spencer and Dooli.

B. What was one of the key reasons (there's a few) for the U.S. to end it's non intervention policy and actively join the war by officially declaring it? Not looking for the sinking of the Lusitania as after it Germany suspended sinking merchant shipping for a time.

C. What was one of the best kept secrets of the war for years by the French?


B. After the sinking of the Lusitania the Germans stopped targeting merchant/civilian shipping for a time. When they started back that was one of the reasons. Also the sabotage attacks on Black Tom, Kingsland and Mare Island and the Zimmerman Telegram (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zimmermann_Telegram) helped sway public opinion.

C. Large scale mutinies by French forces, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Army_Mutinies_%281917%29

[Oldschool]

What popular Halloween treat was the first penny candy to be individually wrapped?

An old belief is that is is good luck to see this creature on Halloween.

And why?

Besides the traditional orange what are some other natural pumpkin colors?

[racey]

What popular Halloween treat was the first penny candy to be individually wrapped?

An old belief is that is is good luck to see this creature on Halloween.

And why?

Besides the traditional orange what are some other natural pumpkin colors?

I am fairly certain the answer is...
Tootsie Rolls

[thingirl]

I have no idea on the first three, so...

Besides the traditional orange what are some other natural pumpkin colors?

Yellow and green. Maybe some other colors, though I'm not sure....

[Oldschool]

Both of you are correct and there's a few colors left. Reps to both although Racey you'll have to wait for yours thanks to the ole rep nanny.

Edit: Both reps delivered. :)

[texlaw1992]

I'm guessing it's good luck to see a black cat on Halloween.

Why? No idea.

[Oldschool]

I'm looking for something else but that's correct for some places (UK and Japan) although it's not specific to Halloween - repped.

The other answer's still out there.

[spencer]

Let's see... I don't think it's the great pumpkin, but you never know. I am also fairly certain that it is not the green goblin. Who does that leave?

What the heck? Death? I really have no idea.

[Oldschool]

What popular Halloween treat was the first penny candy to be individually wrapped?

An old belief is that is is good luck to see this creature on Halloween.

And why?

Besides the traditional orange what are some other natural pumpkin colors?

Was checking "Who's online" and seen a spider indexing this thread and realized it was still hanging. Spider's... hanging... groaningly appropriate.

First was answered correctly by Racey - Tootsie Rolls.

Second... Tex's black cat is right in the UK and Japan but afaik it's not Halloween specific.

Black cats and baseball, http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=rF3OZRzMYmY#t=196s

The answer I was looking for was spiders. According to myth seeing one on Halloween is good luck as it's the spirit of a dead relative watching you.

Pumpkin colors...

TG's right with green (unripe) and yellow (unripe giant pumpkins). And other colors include; red, white, blue and tan.

http://pumpkinnook.com/facts/colors.htm

[Oldschool]

Reps for the correct answers.

LoTR/Tolkien trivia....

Who was Sharkey?

Who/what was Durin's Bane?

What/where was the Fire of Orthanc?

Who/what was Grond?

Who/what was Grond (not a typo there's two "Gronds")?

Who was William Huggins?

When Bilbo and the dwarves first entered Mirkwood what creature surprised them?

Who was the first Thain of the Hobbits?

Who/what was Belthronding?

What/where was the Front Porch?

Whew, that's ten.....

[Doolipalally]

Thanks for something to help me wake up this morning! Hmm, let's see...

Reps for the correct answers.

LoTR/Tolkien trivia....

Who was Sharkey?

Saruman, when he got to the Shire. From 'sharku', meaning 'old man', though I've forgotten in what language. Probably Orcish.

Who/what was Durin's Bane?

The Balrog in the Mines of Moria.

What/where was the Fire of Orthanc?

Other than 'In Orthanc' I've no idea!

Who/what was Grond?

Grond was the battering ram with a wolf's head, forged to break down the gate's of Minas Tirith. It was named after...

Who/what was Grond (not a typo there's two "Gronds")?

... 'the Hammer of the Underworld of old'. Can't remember who wielded it, though - Sauron? Morgoth himself?

Who was William Huggins?

This is going to bug me. Was he one of the trolls that Bilbo and the dwarves encountered? That's my best guess, anyway.

When Bilbo and the dwarves first entered Mirkwood what creature surprised them?

Spiders.

Who was the first Thain of the Hobbits?

I want to say the Old Took, but I don't think that's right.

Who/what was Belthronding?

Seriously no idea.

What/where was the Front Porch?

I think it was the name Bilbo and the dwarves gave to the grassy area where they camped outside the small door which led into the Lonely Mountain and Smaug's lair.

Whew, that's ten.....

Repped and thank you. :)

[Oldschool]

Nicely done Dooli (some reps headed your way). I actually had to Google the answers to two that you didn't answer myself. I knew the answers, but had to Google them if that makes any sense.

Re: Sharkey, correct. Not sure of the language either, but Orcish sounds right.

Re: Durin's Bane, correct.

Re: the first Grond in your answers, correct.

Re: the second Grond in your answers correct and it was Morgoth himself.

Re: William Huggins, correct that be Bill, Bert and Tom's comrade.

Re: the creature(s) that surprised Bilbo and company correct but I'm thinking of a different one that was briefly mentioned.

Re: the Front Porch, correct.

Folks that leaves the following three, technically four, still open....

Dooli feel free to take another shot as a few were flawed.

And my Fire of Orthanc question needs a bit of a rewrite.

What and where was the Fire of Orthanc used?

When Bilbo and the dwarves first entered Mirkwood they were surprised to briefly see this creature?

These are the one's I had to Google.

First Thane of the Hobbits?

Who/what was Belthronding?

[spencer]

Thanks for something to help me wake up this morning! Hmm, let's see...



Saruman, when he got to the Shire. From 'sharku', meaning 'old man', though I've forgotten in what language. Probably Orcish.



The Balrog in the Mines of Moria.



Other than 'In Orthanc' I've no idea!



Grond was the battering ram with a wolf's head, forged to break down the gate's of Minas Tirith. It was named after...



... 'the Hammer of the Underworld of old'. Can't remember who wielded it, though - Sauron? Morgoth himself?



This is going to bug me. Was he one of the trolls that Bilbo and the dwarves encountered? That's my best guess, anyway.



Spiders.



I want to say the Old Took, but I don't think that's right.



Seriously no idea.



I think it was the name Bilbo and the dwarves gave to the grassy area where they camped outside the small door which led into the Lonely Mountain and Smaug's lair.



Repped and thank you. :)

Wow, Dooli, I must say that I am impressed.

[spencer]

Belthronding sounds like

a weapon of some sort. I am going to say it is an elven blade, but honestly do not know.

Baugh!! I have no clue on the rest. Need to go back and read.

[Young Ned]

What and where was the Fire of Orthanc used?
I feel like I should know that one, but nothing's coming to mind.

When Bilbo and the dwarves first entered Mirkwood they were surprised to briefly see this creature?
A deer?

First Thane of the Hobbits?
Bullroarer Took? (Who also invented the game of Golf.)

Who/what was Belthronding?
No idea...

[Doolipalally]

I've now Googled Belthronding and the first Thain, so I can confirm that I would have had no idea without Googling. :)

A thought occurs to me about the surprise encounter in Mirkwood:

Gollum?

[Oldschool]

Correct re: the creature Ned. Specifically a white doe and fawns.

Partly correct Spencer - an Elvish weapon.

First Thain of the Hobbits. He was from across the Brandywine near Buckland - specifically of the Marish.

Fire of Orthanc. Honestly I thought that would be answered quickly. Hint - Deeping Coomb aka Helm's Deep.

[Badstench]

Nice quiz, Oldschool... where's Blackcrowe when you need him?

Just like Varsil Demonsoul to disappear at the impotent times.




Yes, I meant 'Impotent"

I'm still not over the use of my underpants to hit Xarrak

[spencer]

Nice quiz, Oldschool... where's Blackcrowe when you need him?

Just like Varsil Demonsoul to disappear at the impotent times.




Yes, I meant 'Impotent"

I'm still not over the use of my underpants to hit Xarrak

I think that the real question is:

Is Xarrakk over being hit by your underpants?

[Oldschool]

LOL.... ;)

Times up so....

What and where was the Fire of Orthanc used? An explosive (gunpowder?) used to breach Helm's Deep.

First Thane of the Hobbits? Bucca of the Marish

Who/what was Belthronding? Beleg (see five letter word ;)) Strongbow's bow.

[Doolipalally]

OK, it's been a while, so let's have another :). I was just going through an old notebook and came across a film/movie quiz I did for a family get-together a couple of years ago.

Here's a list of movie characters. Each group of characters is from the same film. The challenge is: how many of these films can you identify from the characters named without googling? All the answers are included in the current IMDB 'Top 250'.

To make life more interesting, although Googling is forbidden, you're allowed to ask your friends/significant others/people you meet in the street.

Please put answers in spoilers so others can have a go.

Some I'd expect all of you to get. Some are more of a challenge. :)


1. Pumpkin & Honey Bunny.

2. Nurse Ratched, Dale Harding & Billy Bibbit.

3. Rick Blaine, Ilse Lund and Victor Laszlo.

4. Andy Dufresne and Warden Norton.

5. Marion Ravenwood, Dr Marcus Brody & Sallah.

6. Norman Bates & Marion Crane.

7. Roger Thornhill, Eve Kendall & Philip Vandamm.

8. Atticus Finch & Tom Robinson.

9. Ripley, Dallas & Ash.

10. Holly Martins & Harry Lime.

11. Sir Lancelot, Sir Bedevere & Zoot.

12. Mr White, Mr Brown & Mr Pink.

13. Don Lockwood & Kathy Selden.

14. Sugar Kane, Daphne & Josephine.

15. Maximus, Commodus & Proximo.

16. John McClane & Hans Gruber.

17. Wesley & Inigo Montoya.

18. Benton, Spud, Tommy & Begbie.

19. Ben Braddock & Elaine Robinson.

20. Jenny Curran & Lieutenant Dan Taylor.

[Kadri]

Hey, I actually know a few of these! :eek:

8. Atticus Finch & Tom Robinson.

To Kill a Mockingbird (although I haven't seen the film -- I've read the book) :)

16. John McClane & Hans Gruber.

Die Hard (yay for Bruce Willis!)

17. Wesley & Inigo Montoya.

The Princess Bride (too easy -- I grew up on that movie! XD)


Oh yes, and I can't forget:

20. Jenny Curran & Lieutenant Dan Taylor.

Forest Gump :D

[Doolipalally]

Four out of four! Now, how about the other sixteen? :D

[Oldschool]

Haven't looked at Kadri's spoilers yet so....

1. Pumpkin & Honey Bunny.

2. Nurse Ratched, Dale Harding & Billy Bibbit. One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest - by the way Brad Dourif who played Billy Bibbit (and Grima Wormtongue) is from West Virginia.

3. Rick Blaine, Ilse Lund and Victor Laszlo. Casablanca

4. Andy Dufresne and Warden Norton. The Shawshank Redemption

5. Marion Ravenwood, Dr Marcus Brody & Sallah. Raiders of the Lost Ark

6. Norman Bates & Marion Crane. Psycho

7. Roger Thornhill, Eve Kendall & Philip Vandamm. North by Northwest

8. Atticus Finch & Tom Robinson. To Kill A Mockingbird

9. Ripley, Dallas & Ash. Aliens

10. Holly Martins & Harry Lime.

11. Sir Lancelot, Sir Bedevere & Zoot. Monty Python and the Holy Grail

12. Mr White, Mr Brown & Mr Pink. Reservoir Dogs

13. Don Lockwood & Kathy Selden.

14. Sugar Kane, Daphne & Josephine.

15. Maximus, Commodus & Proximo. Gladiator

16. John McClane & Hans Gruber. Die Hard

17. Wesley & Inigo Montoya. The Princess Bride

18. Benton, Spud, Tommy & Begbie.

19. Ben Braddock & Elaine Robinson. The Graduate

20. Jenny Curran & Lieutenant Dan Taylor. Forrest Gump

[Doolipalally]

Fourteen right, and one very very nearly right. :) Nice going!

[Badstench]

Pumpkin and Hunny Bunny has to be Pulp Fiction. The scene at the start with the Amanda Plummer and wotshisface

[Oldschool]

Fourteen right, and one very very nearly right. :) Nice going!

Oops added an S naming the sequel. :rolleyes:

Pumpkin and Hunny Bunny has to be Pulp Fiction. The scene at the start with the Amanda Plummer and wotshisface

Tim Roth aka Mr. Orange. ;)

[Doolipalally]

Badstench: correct, but could you please put answers in spoilers as requested?

[spencer]

I had to google the remaining three. I would not have gotten any of them. I think that I would have been able to answer about six of these, but I was beaten to the punch. Well done, Dolli.

[Oldschool]

The good thing about spoilers are you can avoid them and still play.

Still can't believe I missed the first one though.

And agreed - very nice list Dooli.

And darkrkngl's ToA joke reminded me of this....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vh1vEiisK0M

Which lead me this, http://www.cafepress.com/+librarian-the-original-search-engine+mugs

:)