Spoilers

[psychoadept]

Wasn't sure of the right forum for this, but since it relates to the spoiler tags mechanic I figured here would work.

I'm just confused. How are we deciding exactly what to put behind spoiler tags? What are the criteria?

There's a lot of stuff talked about that seems spoilery to me that's NOT tagged. On the other hand, if we were seriously hiding all spoilers, some threads would have to have everything in the thread behind tags.

When is something spoilery enough to require spoiler tags? When do you guys decide to mark spoilers?

[thingirl]

Well, I often put item descriptions and texts that I've copied behind spoiler tags, to keep my posts short. Other stuff is when it's almost walk through like (where to find the eye shards, for example), and most people are putting the rewards from the Temple in tags. In short, if there's something that you think should be a spoiler, then put it in tags.

[Taleria]

I suppose it depends on an individual's playing style, but one thing I think is spoilery across the board is posting actual game text. Because of Sryth's story-focused nature, talking about things that happen in adventures could potentially ruin the experience for new players. I haven't made up my mind whether or not discussions about what happens if you pick one option or another during an adventure, or talk about experience rewards/quest items, count as spoilers that need to be hidden. Personally, I don't consider those as spoilery as story content or game text, but they're still technically spoilers. I read the forum specifically to help me choose options during adventures, as well as to discover hidden possibilities. For example, the use of Shimmering Weapons at the fountain in Tarn. I'm curious about the perspective of those who avoid spoilers completely, but I guess those people aren't here. :p

[Elrond]

I avoid spoilers most of the time as that "first time" experience is something I want to savor. But on some adventures I read the spoilers in order not to miss out on rewards. There is no criteria for me on this. It comes down to my "mood" at the time!

[Oldschool]

I tend to avoid spoilers altogether. Although I'll sometimes look at them for reasons like Elrond mentions like moods, rewards or time concerns especially since I tend to be extremely A.R. in regards to having all my characters caught up on new content. I'll tend to run adventures at least a few times to see for myself the different courses of action and then I'll also check the thread(s) before committing to a decision. Also, I'll also usually run a secondary through first.

[smv1973]

When I started playing the game I did not use (or even look at) the Wiki for the first 3 months. I did not use the forum either. I signed up for a forum account about 3 weeks after I started playing, but I never read any of the threads. In hind site I wish I would of used the Wiki so I could of found out what adventures were the more difficult ones. Also to find out what skill/power levels would be needed in the adventure. Even more so for adventures that could only be done once like in the Proving Grounds.

[Doolipalally]

How are we deciding exactly what to put behind spoiler tags? What are the criteria?

There's a lot of stuff talked about that seems spoilery to me that's NOT tagged. On the other hand, if we were seriously hiding all spoilers, some threads would have to have everything in the thread behind tags.

When is something spoilery enough to require spoiler tags? When do you guys decide to mark spoilers?


I haven't had anything spoiler-like to post as yet, but I agree that anything which includes game text should be a spoiler, including info about rewards. For everything else, I'm assuming there's a difference between hints and directions. For example, telling someone that finding the Cave of the Ice Troll is connected with a certain NPC is a hint. Saying Go and visit the Crimson-Helmed Rider on the Longspur Downs in Southern Tysa for seven days in a row is a spoiler.

What do people think? Should even hints be in spoiler tags?

[thingirl]

Hints, no. Instructions, Yes. Like you said, a hint would be read the text at the fountain in Tarn carefully and wouldn't need to be hidden. Spoilers would be go to the Fountian in Tarn and USE your SS/ Iakor's weapon and Should be hidden.

[Joddelle]

I think it depends on which section of the forum you're posting to. There are things that should be spoilered if posted in the Adventurers' Lounge (http://srythforum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=5), but don't warrent it if posted in Help (http://srythforum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=6).

After all, the whole help section could easily be considered one big spoiler.

[Lightwielder]

I think it depends on which section of the forum you're posting to. There are things that should be spoilered if posted in the Adventurers' Lounge (http://srythforum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=5), but don't warrent it if posted in Help (http://srythforum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=6).

After all, the whole help section could easily be considered one big spoiler.

True, but when someone asks a question in the help Forum, answer it exactly how they asked it. No more, no less. If you do decide to go in-depth about the answer to their question, put any unnecessary info in spoilers, even in the Help Forum. Maybe they only want a simple answer to know where and how to start, but don't want the whole first-time experience ruined by someone who didn't think to use spoiler tags. If they think that your answer isn't enough, they can post again and ask another question.

Make sense?

[Taleria]

I haven't had anything spoiler-like to post as yet, but I agree that anything which includes game text should be a spoiler, including info about rewards.

This makes sense after some consideration. At least, if rewards are behind spoiler tags, people can choose whether to show them. This works fine for quest discussion threads. But what about for those threads that are basically just reports of outcomes? For instance, the CHR or multiplayer battles? I don't think those threads need the rewards behind spoilers because almost every post would require it.

For everything else, I'm assuming there's a difference between hints and directions. For example, telling someone that finding the Cave of the Ice Troll is connected with a certain NPC is a hint. Saying Go and visit the Crimson-Helmed Rider on the Longspur Downs in Southern Tysa for seven days in a row is a spoiler.

What do people think? Should even hints be in spoiler tags?

No. Hints aren't spoilers.

[Doolipalally]

This makes sense after some consideration. At least, if rewards are behind spoiler tags, people can choose whether to show them. This works fine for quest discussion threads. But what about for those threads that are basically just reports of outcomes? For instance, the CHR or multiplayer battles? I don't think those threads need the rewards behind spoilers because almost every post would require.


Agreed - I wasn't really thinking about reports of things like MP or CHR scores (to be honest, I rarely read them). I was thinking more about new content.

[Taleria]

Haha. Don't worry - I don't really read them, either. Just like how I don't really read the Braggart Corner. I don't need reasons to be envious. :p