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Oldschool
08-07-2009, 01:42 AM
For posts relating to "The Silver Crest Reborn" scenario.


The Silver Crest Reborn

Tomorrow evening (8/7), adventurers will have the chance to complete the legendary artifact of ogredeom known as the Bowl of Blood.

Having just returned from exploring Fogbough Forest (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:OpenInfoWindow%28%27fogbough%27%29;), you learn that Teek, while on a mission to recover one of the last gems for the Bowl of Blood, has disappeared somewhere in the foggy vastness of the cursed wood.

When Idriskkar goes off in search of Teek and also vanishes, you have no choice but to venture back into the forest to find them -- if indeed they've managed to survive the perils of Fogbough.

Look for this adventure to go live tomorrow night (8/7).

psychoadept
08-07-2009, 03:32 AM
Why are there three of these posts?

Also, argh! I still only have six of the gems from the Temple!

Joddelle
08-07-2009, 03:49 AM
Three identical threads seems excessive

Oldschool
08-07-2009, 04:10 AM
Because I'm a "Rocky Mountain Canary" aka jack@$$ - lol. :rolleyes:

Actually I was unaware I'd created three but I just removed the extras.

psychoadept
08-07-2009, 04:18 AM
Because I'm a "Rocky Mountain Canary" aka jack@$$ - lol. :rolleyes:

I have no idea what you mean, but it made me laugh anyway. :)

Ka keng
08-07-2009, 10:57 AM
Lol. i dont even have a single gem.

thingirl
08-07-2009, 05:24 PM
I have 7.

psychoadept
08-08-2009, 04:44 AM
No word on this yet? I'm still waiting for my last two gems, so I was hoping there would be reports...

Oldschool
08-08-2009, 04:59 AM
Just checked - it's live.

EDIT: It will show on the Adventure Finder under "The Headquarters of the Silver Crest". It doesn't show for my secondaries, none of who have the ten gems.

EDIT2: For anyone planning on testing or running it multiple times you may want to save once you find the map and the location as it's appearance is random.

Oldschool
08-08-2009, 05:14 AM
Just got to a screen without a continue link and am "stuck" - in-gamed GM and will reload as I haven't saved.

EDIT: Bug's fixed - props to the GM for an as usual quick response.

Here's more details for those interested.

The adventure takes you back to Fogbough's Outer Wood and exploring. You'll find a map and in the associated cavern when you find Teek's possessions (lower left corner) that's where the bug occurs.

Also when in the cave fighting through the webs gets your more xp (combat combos roughly double) than using a power/skill (16xp).

And there are more Goblin Totem Tokens - Serpent to be exact.

Oldschool
08-08-2009, 05:48 AM
Kudos to the GM.

Short but VERY nice and VERY generous adventure.

Haven't saved yet so will post more detailed info after reloading it, if someone doesn't before me.

VERY spoilerish SPOILER tags - although that would appear redundant I felt the need to "say" it.


Edit (this spoiler added): If you're having trouble finding something/someone you may need to "backtrack" your steps once you find Teek's gear. Specifically, the shallow impressions in the NE corner.


Regarding the adventure itself,

There appears to be only one serpent totem token available and matching it with two dragons keeps the same bonuses. Also running through the tower reveals no new tokens. The Bowl of Blood is completed and it's a nice item that needs gen xp to level up to level 5 which allows you to grant yourself +1 to either SP, NR or MR for each level and you can switch back and forth. XP amounts to follow but along the lines of phantom items. There's also hints of other powers. Also a nice general xp award (3,072) for so short an adventure with a nice if moderate AS&P reward (256).

Bowl of Blood xp requirements. Starts at level one. L2 - 2048 xp. L3 - 4096 xp. L4 - 8192 xp. L5 - 16,384 xp. Total to max out at level 5 - 30,720


Unfortunately, it seems the Axe of Bramble may stay the Ornate Iron Axe for some although I could be wrong as Hawk's is/was already identified.

Elrond
08-08-2009, 06:42 AM
Pretty nice adventure. I had general xp for only 4 levels for the bowl of blood. I need 9K general xp to raise the bowl to lvl 5. That will allow me to raise my MR to 235!

Oldschool
08-08-2009, 07:09 AM
A little perspective on the GM's generosity.

The Bowl, Goblin Totem Block and other Fogbough bonuses (albeit temporary but replenishable) totaled out in a Tallys AT comparison. Not to mention the fact you get to keep you current gear in place.

Soothes my grumpiness over the recent randomness ruckus. :)

Although that may be temporary and replenishable as well. ;)

Doolipalally
08-08-2009, 11:06 AM
Is anyone else having trouble finding this adventure? I didn't copy the text, but I'm fairly sure it said I should start my search for Teek and Idriskkar by going and exploring Fogbough in the usual way. 102 explorations later, and I haven't found anything new. What am I missing?

solitu
08-08-2009, 11:15 AM
Same here. This is one of the reasons why I started complaining. (BTW I still need one more pouch.)

edit: Finally got it too. Yes, nice adventure... More of this kind of adventures, but a bit more accessible... that's all I need :D

Doolipalally
08-08-2009, 11:52 AM
Finally found the adventure, after around 120 explorations. I'm going to email the GM and suggest he makes it a bit easier to find, otherwise he might be deluged with 'what am I doing wrong/it's broken' emails.

Nice to see a use for Conjuration, although it doesn't explain why you can't just keep using the pole you conjured the first time.

paladin
08-08-2009, 04:59 PM
Well the Paladin got to be a real life Paladin just this last night when his GF's soon-to-be x husband started ripping into her. So her daughter and her boyfriend brought her to my place for the evening. Needless to say I didn't get to try the adventure until just a bit ago. I agree. Short but very nice. And the new ability afforded by the last gems can come in quite handy depending on what stat you might need more of at a given time. Very neat.

Joddelle
08-08-2009, 06:56 PM
It took me around 200 explorations to find the adventure. I liked the first part of the adventure a lot, and I loved the story attached to the second half - but somehow I felt cheated in that last part when finding him presented no challenges.

Doolipalally
08-08-2009, 07:07 PM
It took me around 200 explorations to find the adventure. I liked the first part of the adventure a lot, and I loved the story attached to the second half - but somehow I felt cheated in that last part when finding him presented no challenges.

I know what you mean: it was a bit of an anticlimax.

I did feel a bit compensated though 'cos I always wanted to cut someone free of a spiderweb cocoon - probably too much Tolkien at an early age!

paladin
08-08-2009, 07:59 PM
Hahaha my thoughts exactly! And Fogbough could definitely pass for Sryth's version of Mircwood.

Elrond
08-08-2009, 09:04 PM
Well the Paladin got to be a real life Paladin just this last night when his GF's soon-to-be x husband started ripping into her. So her daughter and her boyfriend brought her to my place for the evening.

Paladin, I'm confused as to who "her boyfriend" refers to!

Oldschool
08-08-2009, 09:28 PM
Was wondering about a certain axe.

Has anyone ran it with the Ornate Iron Axe? And if so was there any mention by Teek about it or better yet did he i.d. it?

I ran it with the Axe of Bramble equipped and didn't get any different text than when I ran it without it in my inventory.

Elrond
08-08-2009, 09:34 PM
Was wondering about a certain axe.

Has anyone ran it with the Ornate Iron Axe? And if so was there any mention by Teek about it or better yet did he i.d. it?

I ran it with the Axe of Bramble equipped and didn't get any different text than when I ran it without it in my inventory.

Actually, I was hoping that Teek would ask for his old axe back. But he didn't and I was a wee bit disappointed! I would have loved to give it back to him!

But it is funny that our old friend Teek would be naive enough to think that his axe is that worthy! The GM's sarcasm vis-a-vis the Silver Crest is not new!

bibs
08-08-2009, 10:26 PM
After we have delivered the three pouches to Tally is there something else we have to do to get this to activate or just keep searching?

psychoadept
08-08-2009, 10:32 PM
And there are more Goblin Totem Tokens - Serpent to be exact.

Wait a sec... where'd you get the new token? I didn't get one! (And saved before I realized it, cruddity crud!)

psychoadept
08-08-2009, 10:33 PM
After we have delivered the three pouches to Tally is there something else we have to do to get this to activate or just keep searching?

You don't have to have finished Tallys's quest, but you do have to visit the Silver Crest HQ in Trithik. Also, I think you have to have all 10 gems and the Bowl of Blood from Lords of Ogredom.

Oldschool
08-08-2009, 10:42 PM
Wait a sec... where'd you get the new token? I didn't get one! (And saved before I realized it, cruddity crud!)

Don't worry you're "ok".

It's in the NE corner. If you have gotten Teek's gear when you come across the shallow impressions it activates the spider troll encounter which ultimately ends the scenario. You can go back as it's a "returnable location" and get the dragon token however. If you go that direction before getting Teek's gear the shallow impressions don't do anything letting you get the token first.

psychoadept
08-08-2009, 10:43 PM
Don't worry you're "ok".

Whew! Thanks! I got it now.

Oldschool
08-08-2009, 10:45 PM
Originally Posted by bibs http://www.srythforum.com/images_sryth/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.srythforum.com/showthread.php?p=3741#post3741)
After we have delivered the three pouches to Tally is there something else we have to do to get this to activate or just keep searching?



You don't have to have finished Tallys's quest, but you do have to visit the Silver Crest HQ in Trithik. Also, I think you have to have all 10 gems and the Bowl of Blood from Lords of Ogredom.


You're right, or so it seems as it doesn't show on the Adventure Finder for my other characters who don't have the 10 gems.

paladin
08-08-2009, 10:54 PM
Oops, sorry Elrond. My girlfriend's got a daughter who has a boyfriend. Those two are working on her to try to get her to leave her x so she could get out from under his thumb. After he started ripping into her verbally they used a cigarette run as an excuse to bring her, her being my GF, to my place. Bit complicated I know. Now I just have to introduce her to Sryth.

kaffe
08-09-2009, 12:23 AM
I can not access this quest. I have the 10 gems. I started my exploration of fogbough. I have also visited the Silver Crest and they tell me that Teek will turn up. What am I missing?

Badstench
08-09-2009, 01:07 AM
Continue to explore... the location of Teek will appear at random, much like everything else in these accursed woods.

Just as an afterthought... when you say you visited the Silver Crest, did you actually choose the option to start the new adventure [Adventures in this location]? If not, then you have to go back there again.

Oldschool
08-09-2009, 02:24 AM
I can not access this quest. I have the 10 gems. I started my exploration of fogbough. I have also visited the Silver Crest and they tell me that Teek will turn up. What am I missing?

If they're telling you Teek will turn up then what Badstench mentions is the only thing I can think of.

This brings up an interesting question. Does anyone know if one has NOT completed the previous Silver Crest adventures and/or PG V if you get the text referencing Teek when you visit the Silver Crest?

kaffe
08-09-2009, 02:50 AM
The option to start new adventure has not shown up.

Oldschool
08-09-2009, 03:02 AM
Have you completed the Silver Crest quests and PG V?

kaffe
08-09-2009, 03:05 AM
Yes I am current on all quest. the only one I have not started is PGVI

Oldschool
08-09-2009, 03:12 AM
Neither have I so that's not it. I can't think of any reason if you've got the 10 gems and have spoken to the Silver Crest about Teek. I would email the GM.

kaffe
08-09-2009, 03:19 AM
thanks that is what I thought but wanted to check here first.

Young Ned
08-09-2009, 06:13 AM
Boy, am I out of touch. How do you get the 10 gems that allow you to start this adventure?

zmflavius
08-09-2009, 06:39 AM
Boy, am I out of touch. How do you get the 10 gems that allow you to start this adventure?

You get the ten gems from the Lords of Ogredom for the bowl of blood which you receive from a ghost you meet there. It should be kind of straightforward from there on.

Young Ned
08-09-2009, 06:50 AM
Aha, thanks! :cool:

thingirl
08-11-2009, 04:15 PM
Yes, all is random in the world of new updates. You encounter a oger who tells you the location of a cave. Go there and defeat the monster. Come back and she'll transform the bowl and fill it. Keep going untill you get a level skip. Defeat the monster at the end and he'll give you a key. Then keep going, taking all level skips, untill you have 10 gems.

Ka keng
08-13-2009, 07:49 AM
Out of curiosity, how many trips did it take you guys to get 10 gems.

shadowblack
08-13-2009, 07:58 AM
A lot!

Have I mentioned how much I HATE relying on random chance?

thingirl
08-13-2009, 04:16 PM
Like Shadow said: A LOT!!!!!

I've done about 30-40 runs since I got the ghost oger and I'm stuck at 9. Soon I'll try agin and if I don't get a gem I'm gonna... not do something that would get me grounded AGAIN.

zmflavius
08-13-2009, 04:30 PM
Many, many, more than I wanted.

thingirl
08-13-2009, 04:48 PM
I want to feed a Nazi to Skargok. A few less minutes less until Ogerdom resets.

Aracelis
08-13-2009, 05:39 PM
It took me plenty of runs too... I was stuck on 9 gems until just yesterday night.

At least the quest that comes afterwards is straightforward and has a nice reward :)

Now I'm just hoping for the third pouch in the forest and am grudgingly working on the totems.

smv1973
08-13-2009, 05:41 PM
Out of curiosity, how many trips did it take you guys to get 10 gems.

I got all 10 gems in 13 runs.

Doolipalally
08-13-2009, 06:12 PM
I got all 10 gems in 13 runs.

I didn't keep an exact log, but I think it was about the same for me. Not more than 15 runs, anyway.

shadowblack
08-13-2009, 07:41 PM
You guys are lucky. It definitely took me longer... though that may be because I insisted on clearing all traps for the experience.

Doolipalally
08-13-2009, 08:02 PM
You guys are lucky. It definitely took me longer... though that may be because I insisted on clearing all traps for the experience.

Doing it the purist way would definitely have taken me a lot longer! I had lousy luck on rolls in the temple, and only managed the maximum reward once.

thingirl
08-13-2009, 09:23 PM
2 words: Keppbek Elixirs.

I haven't used any yet (other than in the temple), so I had plenty. Note the past tense.

shadowblack
08-13-2009, 09:57 PM
I didn't use any elixirs and I still managed to clear all the snares every single time. Of course, a few times I ended up dying while trying to clear them, but who cares about such "minor details"...

thingirl
08-13-2009, 10:34 PM
Alanne's SP is 188, What's your's?

EDIT: I just looked, and 191 is close to 188, so how many times did you die?

psychoadept
08-14-2009, 03:59 AM
I got all 10 gems in 13 runs.

Yeah but I bet you had more opportunities per run to get a portal than most of us... :)

shadowblack
08-14-2009, 07:12 AM
Actually, initially my Stamina was indeed 191. However, that changed after the first few visits because I remembered that Vatyr's Keep will give me +5 Stamina. So I replaced Ring of Long Shadows with Vatyr's Keep, increasing my Stamina to 196 at the start of the temple. Even so I still died a few times because of really unlucky rolls.

thingirl
08-14-2009, 12:40 PM
What's Vatyr's Keep? I know from context that it's a ring, but where do you get it? Is is a raffle Item?

shadowblack
08-14-2009, 12:50 PM
No, it's not.

All Vatyr items require Conjuration 70+

thingirl
08-14-2009, 01:19 PM
Aaah, I should have checked the wiki. My Conjuration is only at 69.

thingirl
08-14-2009, 02:19 PM
I just did the adventure and I have this advice to add: make sure that you get the serpent totem before you get Teek's stuff.

Oh, and regarding the too much Tolkien too young posts, Dad read Hobbit and Lord of the Rings to me when I was 7 or 8. The precious, it's MINE! (Well, all the randomness in getting the bowl might turn me into Golem.) Now, to throw the Band Of Gruljasa into a volcano.

Doolipalally
08-14-2009, 03:06 PM
I just did the adventure and I have this advice to add: make sure that you get the serpent totem before you get Teek's stuff.

Actually this isn't essential - you can revisit the location and pick up anything you didn't get the first time.

thingirl
08-14-2009, 03:09 PM
Still, it saves at lest some time doing it the first time.

shadowblack
08-26-2009, 04:38 PM
* The Headquarters of The Silver Crest
o The Silver Crest Reborn*

Finally!

I noticed the adventure showing in my Adventure Finder right after I encountered something massive moving nearby and investigated. Coincidentally I have received a response from the GM only a few minutes earlier (though I didn't see it until now):
Hi, yes, there are several Fogbough-related requirements to be able to access that
adventure. I'll list all the requirements below:

* You must have shown the Bowl of Blood to the Silver Crest members in the Crest HQ
* You must possess 10 gems for the Bowl of Blood
* You must have discovered the slain goblins in Fogbough
* You must have discovered the trail of the large creature in Fogbough
* You must have found the abandoned campsite in Fogbough
* You must have helped the lost travelers to safety in Fogbough

Once those are completed, you should be able to access the adventure at the Silver Crest
HQ in Trithik.

Please let me know if you have any questions, or if you need any additional info.

All the best!

Elrond
08-26-2009, 05:04 PM
Wow, that's alot of requirements. The GM is moving up the complexity ladder with the adventures!

thingirl
08-26-2009, 06:37 PM
Well, it makes sence that you have to find stuff in Fougbough. Hey, I know what the large creature is now. It's the spidertroll, or the spidertroll draging something.

Elrond
08-26-2009, 10:48 PM
Thingirl, how did you come to that conclusion?

thingirl
08-26-2009, 10:59 PM
Because you have to find it to get the adventure. And it's large and you encounter it during the quest. And it's been bugging me since the first time I saw it, and I was reading Shadow's post and thought "Hey, I know what it is.".

Joddelle
08-27-2009, 01:39 AM
I think it's a big serpent, exactly like the text says.

Consider this image on The Tablet Of Merzekk:

"The scene engraved upon the lid of this long, ancient wooden box, depicts a mighty, sword-wielding warrior beheading a serpent."

I'm pretty sure we'll meet this serpent 'in the flesh', probably in the final stages of the Sword of Merzekk quest.

Edit: Also... there's the serpent head reference in Tarn - there just might be a 'use' for the beheaded head there

paladin
08-27-2009, 02:48 AM
Not only that, but you can still get that encounter after you slay the Spider Troll, so unless there's more than one I just blew your theory out of the water.

thingirl
08-27-2009, 12:54 PM
Good points, both of you. And I forgot about the serpant skull.
@ Joddelle, where is this referance you speak of?

shadowblack
08-27-2009, 08:08 PM
Looks like there is a small bug with the adventure:
Bonuses: Woodmanship +0, Agility +20, Body +20

This is if you try to flee from the spider-troll. I sent a bug report asking about the 0 bonus from Woodsmanship.

thingirl
08-27-2009, 08:10 PM
Why did you flee, for the info?

shadowblack
08-27-2009, 08:20 PM
The info and the line:
You wonder if it would prove wise to flee as soon as the opportunity presents itself and return with a plan of attack.

I failed the check and decided to just kill the damn thing even though it was 11+ with MR 153. Next time I'll try passing the check.

thingirl
08-27-2009, 08:23 PM
I guess I either wasn't paying attn. or he added something.

shadowblack
08-27-2009, 08:24 PM
I'll know after I finish my Tarn visit.

thingirl
08-27-2009, 08:31 PM
Tarn's annoying. Very good XP, but annoying.

spencer
08-27-2009, 11:54 PM
Why is it annoying? Is it because it takes longer than the other replayables?

thingirl
08-28-2009, 12:16 AM
Yeah, it's too long. I almost never to the SE corner.

Joddelle
08-28-2009, 01:20 AM
The fountain in Tarn has a statue of a serpent that's missing its head. I forget where the serpent reference is/was in Tarn. I do remember speculating that the skull we got from the Merchant of Bone would work at the fountain to animate the statue. That speculation was re: the serpent text in Tarn that I can no longer find.

thingirl
08-28-2009, 01:56 AM
Repeat visit to the fountian:

You put your item (Serpent's Skull) to use.
This item has no special use here.

Standing in the centre of a debris-filled quadrangle is a large, ornate fountain. The masterfully-carved likenesses of winged dragons and crescent moons adorn the sides of the fountain's broad and deep basin.

Rising out of the middle of the dry basin is a tall spout fashioned into the form of a curved serpent's neck.

Cool, shimmering water flows out of the serpent's open maw, splashing into the basin below.

* Drink from the fountain...

* Head back north...

billydakid
08-28-2009, 02:22 AM
Running Tarn is a lot faster then running the multiplayer games. I can run one Tarn run in about 35 minutes. Where as where hardly anyone fights the Multis anymore it takes over an hour for one run.

thingirl
08-28-2009, 12:49 PM
And it... Let's take this over to the Tarn thread.

thingirl
09-04-2009, 06:12 PM
OK, for some strange reason, I dicided to go back to Teek's cave. The ground gave way, and I lost some SP. (12) You've Picked a Random Number...

65
FAILURE...
You needed greater than or equal to 75 to succeed.
You picked 15 modified by 50 for a total of 65 .

You lose your footing and topple down the steep slope into darkness, landing flat on your back at the western end of a cavernous, gloom-filled earthen corridor.

SP -12 You've lost 12 Stamina Points.

You stagger to your feet and begin to survey your new surroundings.

* Please continue... Then you're in the entryway. I would have put it on the wiki, but it's only 1 report.

shadowblack
09-04-2009, 06:47 PM
I'll put it on the wiki later (if I don't forget again).

EDIT: Added.

thingirl
09-04-2009, 10:02 PM
Thanks.

Plezier
09-12-2009, 09:59 AM
Doh for some stupid reason I didn't go right to the end of the lair (Teeks') after finding Teek so missed the Loot. I have 3 of each Dragon, Wolf & Giffon now so I tried re-visiting that place and yes too I failed the check in the entrance and fell. Once back upon my feet I explored the whole lair and right up to the ?

and low and behold recovered the rotting wood box with the Serpent token :D

On my way out I had a strange encounter with

You move to the side of the wounded man and begin to examine his injuries. It's obvious to you that he's been dealt several savage blows and you immediately ask what he and his less fortunate companion encountered.

"I don't rightly know what they're called," he says, speaking slowly, as if severely taxed by every utterance. "I think they're after this. Keep it with you. I know nothing of it, and I don't want it. Take it."

The man taps the top of a long, thin, wooden box lying next to him. He pushes the curious object toward you.

An elaborate engraving on the top of the box's lid depicts a mighty, sword-wielding warrior beheading a large serpent.


ITEM You've acquired: Engraved Wooden Box


You ask the man for a description of what it was that attacked him and closes his eyes.

"Wooden men," he says at last, gasping loudly. "They wanted that box, or so it seemed. We thought we could outrun them, but we became lost in the fog. We should have dropped the box, but Hynrith wouldn't. He was convinced we could flee to safety..."

You realize immediately that the wooden men he's referring to could only be Oakaruk.

Please continue...


Hmmm an interesting turn of events that and completely unexpected .............. at least by me :confused:. I was just hoping to be able to retrieve that which I missed.

zmflavius
09-12-2009, 03:05 PM
Do you have all three

tablet fragments related to Merzekk?

Plezier
09-12-2009, 08:50 PM
Yes it's now whole but so far all that I have tried to do with it has prooved to by useless. I guess I need the third gem. Have found two and applied them but obviously I need the third before I can do much else with it or so it seems :o.

Joddelle
09-12-2009, 08:58 PM
the third gem isn't in game yet.
There should maybe be a thread about the Sword of Merzekk and all the speculation and loose ends associated with it.

thingirl
09-12-2009, 09:06 PM
Have you gone to Mrigspil since you got the tablet?

Jesphulin
09-15-2009, 01:43 PM
I found Teek's items, rescued Teek then returned for the Serpent totem. I did not encounter Anjurlak on the way out. Am I missing something else?

shadowblack
09-15-2009, 01:46 PM
Do you have the three Tablet Fragments? Also, have you obtained both cloudy blue gemstones?

Doolipalally
09-15-2009, 01:58 PM
Do you have the three Tablet Fragments? Also, have you obtained both cloudy blue gemstones?

You don't need to have both cloudy blue gemstones. Rhia only has one and she met him.

Jesphulin
09-15-2009, 01:59 PM
Do you have the three Tablet Fragments? Also, have you obtained both cloudy blue gemstones?
Duh! Was missing tablet #1, thought this character had it. I need to clear my inventory so things are easier to find.

shadowblack
09-15-2009, 02:03 PM
You don't need to have both cloudy blue gemstones. Rhia only has one and she met him.
That's good to know. Seems like only the tablet fragments are required.

thingirl
09-15-2009, 02:04 PM
Don't sell stuff, store stuff that you can in your residence.

shadowblack
09-15-2009, 02:12 PM
I've added the new info about the requirements to the wiki. Hopefully there will be no further changes.

wetheril
09-17-2009, 08:57 PM
I'm starting to notice that obtaining the jewels to the bowl of blood can be a nuisance. Have gotten through 5 runs of The Lords of Ogredom at the very least, and not a single jewel. :(

thingirl
09-17-2009, 09:04 PM
OK, do you have the key? And yes, it both can be and is very annoying.

wetheril
09-17-2009, 09:06 PM
Yes I have the key. Ever since I obtained the key, no more "portals" have appeared. :(

thingirl
09-17-2009, 09:08 PM
To quote Dori from Finding Nemo "Just keep swimming, just keep swimming, just keep swimming..."

psychoadept
09-17-2009, 09:43 PM
I'm starting to notice that obtaining the jewels to the bowl of blood can be a nuisance. Have gotten through 5 runs of The Lords of Ogredom at the very least, and not a single jewel. :(

Yes, it's very hot-or-cold. :( One of my characters has found four gems in his last three times through, the other hasn't seen one in a couple of weeks.

Oldschool
09-18-2009, 12:41 AM
That's one change that you'll find upon your return Wetheril that most, if not all, of us have found daunting to say the least - the GM's apparent newfound fondness for randomness.

Very apparent in the Bowl of Blood and the Outer Wood of Fogbough although it initially appeared in the Battlegrounds although the GM seemed to have tweaked the rate there at least.

Good luck and hang in there.

On a more personal note my secondaries are almost through with the Outer Wood except for the Bowl of Blood related content and once finished will start the hunt for the gems.

wetheril
09-18-2009, 01:43 AM
Glad to see I'm not alone on this randomness. *nods to thingirl and psychoadept*

Thank you for your words of encouragement, Oldschool. I totally see what you mean by randomness in Fogbough's Outerwood. Took me 2 days to find all 3 bags for Tallys. I found the first 2 bags on the first day, but couldn't find the last bag until late on the second day I had been adventuring in Fogbough.

Compared to finding shards in Ildraria's lair, getting onyx bands from Xarriak, or Blizzard in the Hills, even Adrimar's Stones and Hunt for the Phantom Assassin, these new "random element" adventures seem to take longer to complete. It's a good thing that obtaining the Ice Shield doesn't have any random elements involved, or imagine how many of us who've weathered the 36 attempts would end up as frustrated adventurers. ;)

thingirl
09-18-2009, 01:46 AM
2 days for 3 pouches, by some accounts, that's quick.

Joddelle
09-18-2009, 01:48 AM
There is more than one thread on this forum dedicated to player disdain for randomness.

And only two days for the three bags? That is near record time! People have gone weeks looking!

smv1973
09-18-2009, 02:38 AM
Glad to see I'm not alone on this randomness. *nods to thingirl and psychoadept*

Thank you for your words of encouragement, Oldschool. I totally see what you mean by randomness in Fogbough's Outerwood. Took me 2 days to find all 3 bags for Tallys. I found the first 2 bags on the first day, but couldn't find the last bag until late on the second day I had been adventuring in Fogbough.

Compared to finding shards in Ildraria's lair, getting onyx bands from Xarriak, or Blizzard in the Hills, even Adrimar's Stones and Hunt for the Phantom Assassin, these new "random element" adventures seem to take longer to complete. It's a good thing that obtaining the Ice Shield doesn't have any random elements involved, or imagine how many of us who've weathered the 36 attempts would end up as frustrated adventurers. ;)

It took me 3 weeks to get all 3 bags for Tallys.

wetheril
09-18-2009, 02:41 AM
*blinks* I had no idea that 2 days was considered quite quick for finding the 3 bags. It's usually taken me little more than half an hour to a few hours to finish most of the previous random element quests (with the exception of Hunt for the Phantom Assassin), so that one felt pretty long already.

I finally obtained the first jewel to the Bowl of Blood. Smv1973 told me that he got all 10 jewels in all of 4 days. Now that just sounds simply amazing. :eek:

P.S. With all the testimonials about finding the 3 bags taking weeks, I'm convinced that since I found them in 2 days, the game is now "paying me back" for the time I saved by making the gems longer to obtain, lol. ;)

Daffanka
09-18-2009, 09:09 AM
*blinks* I had no idea that 2 days was considered quite quick for finding the 3 bags. It's usually taken me little more than half an hour to a few hours to finish most of the previous random element quests (with the exception of Hunt for the Phantom Assassin), so that one felt pretty long already.

I finally obtained the first jewel to the Bowl of Blood. Smv1973 told me that he got all 10 jewels in all of 4 days. Now that just sounds simply amazing. :eek:

P.S. With all the testimonials about finding the 3 bags taking weeks, I'm convinced that since I found them in 2 days, the game is now "paying me back" for the time I saved by making the gems longer to obtain, lol. ;)

I pretty much had exactly that. I found two portals in my first run but they've dried up now.

thingirl
09-18-2009, 01:44 PM
And just so you know, SMV/ Thordon has the top spot on the Ogerdom leader board at level 63 (:eek:). So he can probably get up to ~ level 50 on an average run.

Daffanka
09-18-2009, 02:01 PM
Damn, I usually have to quit around level 30 if I haven't found a portal.

thingirl
09-18-2009, 02:13 PM
38. Always. It's black. (I have the complete bowl.)

wetheril
09-18-2009, 07:26 PM
I pretty much had exactly that. I found two portals in my first run but they've dried up now.

I hope your luck will improve, Daffanka! Funny thing is after I posted about not getting any jewels, on the subsequent runs I have been getting jewels. I'm now at 4 jewels. Sometimes a little complaining won't hurt, it seems. ;)

thingirl
09-18-2009, 07:34 PM
Yes, then posting about the effects of it always changes it back. I swear, this forum has a jinx factor that influences our luck in the randomly randomness of the game.

Daffanka
09-18-2009, 07:53 PM
I hope your luck will improve, Daffanka! Funny thing is after I posted about not getting any jewels, on the subsequent runs I have been getting jewels. I'm now at 4 jewels. Sometimes a little complaining won't hurt, it seems. ;)

4 of the 12 sockets are fitted with a blood-red gem.

O:

Maybe we should sync our grinding and see if the server crashes.

wetheril
09-18-2009, 08:41 PM
Repped because you might be my long long identical twin.

*laughs* I was thinking the same too! Repped you back for the mind-reading and for being my "Sryth twin". ;)

Young Ned
09-19-2009, 05:28 AM
I hope your luck will improve, Daffanka! Funny thing is after I posted about not getting any jewels, on the subsequent runs I have been getting jewels. I'm now at 4 jewels. Sometimes a little complaining won't hurt, it seems. ;)

I've also noticed that -- and not just here, but in other games, too. Just complain in the forum or the chat (depending on the game) that you're getting bad rolls, and you start getting better ones. I think random number generators just need to know that you care... :cool:

thingirl
09-19-2009, 12:42 PM
Yes, like I was complainning that I was getting c***** rolles in the Archery tournie, then I rolled over my top score.

wetheril
09-19-2009, 09:30 PM
Oh, the Archery Tournament has to be one of my least favorite quests. xD I recall having to re-attempt it several times in order to complete it. I'm aware there was an Archery Tournament at Zumryn's Battlegrounds during my absence, and can't speak for that one, though the results looked fairly random as well.

And Young Ned--you're probably right. Sometimes it feels like the game has "ears" and might even enjoy listening in on what we have to say. :p

zmflavius
09-19-2009, 09:31 PM
The Archery tournament did actually have a minor skill factor involved, though there were players with archery skills as "low" as 81 (or so) who won.

wetheril
09-19-2009, 09:43 PM
The Archery tournament did actually have a minor skill factor involved, though there were players with archery skills as "low" as 81 (or so) who won.

That's actually not so bad. I suppose it would be less exciting if all the winners had legendary archery. At least it isn't as outrageous as somebody with Archery in the 50's winning the tournament.