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Plezier
08-11-2009, 10:42 AM
Oh dear I have read about the wonderous loot and rewards for the Cave of the Ice Troll yet in my limited experience in running through it (2 runs so far) the loot and rewards are very poor. Only got 64/32XP's and the poor loot only sold for 159 gold. The only good thing found was a pair of Splint Boots of superior quality :(.

The brigands require a throw of 11+ so I had to retreat to rest three times :rolleyes: so I did really expect a better return :confused: Oh well the shield is slightly more visable so I suppose it's back again, probably Thursday evening now as I will be out tomorrow and not have access to the puter.

smv1973
08-11-2009, 05:46 PM
Just so you know you will have to do the Ice Troll Cave many times before you are able to get the Ice Shield. Here is the link to the Wiki.

http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/The_Cave_of_the_Ice_Troll

thingirl
08-11-2009, 08:30 PM
36 times to be exact. (I think it used to be 40.)

smv1973
08-11-2009, 10:57 PM
36 times to be exact. (I think it used to be 40.)

The number of visits has never changed.

zmflavius
08-12-2009, 07:06 AM
Still, 159 gold is a rather poor haul, I usually make like 4 or 500 gold on a single moonpath run.

thingirl
08-12-2009, 01:15 PM
When dad told me to visit CHR 7 days in a row, he said it was 40 times to defeat the troll.

Young Ned
08-14-2009, 08:06 AM
There was some uncertainty at first as to how many times were going to be required before getting the shield. When the first few players went over 30 times, there was speculation that it was going to be 40. Perhaps your dad was remembering that, or simply misremembered how many it took.

thingirl
08-14-2009, 01:31 PM
Probably.

Plezier
08-15-2009, 09:25 PM
Ok well have just ran the Ice Cave again and whacked the troll. Have found the following:-

Axe (common)
Broad Sword (common)
Club (common)
Spiked Club (common)
Cutlass (sturdy)
War Axe (sturdy)

You find 54 gold tokens here.

You discover 2 valuable trinkets with a total value of 64 gold.

GOLD + 118 You've acquired 118 gold tokens.

XP +192 You've been awarded a total of 192 Experience...
192 xp applied to general...

XP +48 You've been awarded 48 Experience...
48 xp applied to All Skills and Powers...

See what I mean :eek: this one was even worse than the last one. In fact I would say the rewards are crap :mad:


Oh well back to the drawing board ........................ as they say.

smv1973
08-15-2009, 11:51 PM
Well you will get some good items from there at some point. I have had a couple of runs where I did not even get 1 item and not even that much gold. On my last run I got a unmatched Plate Helm. Just keep your eyes on the big prize. The Ice Shield is well worth the time I think.

Doolipalally
08-16-2009, 12:53 PM
I never expect much in the way of gold from the Ice Cave, but given the minmum AS&P reward is 32 (off the top of my head) it's a better bet than Axepath or Yir-Tanon for the xp.

The reason to do it, like smv says, is the shield.

Plezier
08-16-2009, 04:24 PM
The Shield is what I am after now as I am using a conjured shield right not and am on my second one as the first just vanished :eek: having sold the AT shield back to Tally's and replaced them with Dragon Gem Sleeves and Greeves.

Oh well it's getting time to visit the Ice Cave again.

Plezier
08-16-2009, 11:20 PM
Ahhh got some better loot and rewards this time 209 Gold and an Unmatched Padded Shirt along with:-

XP +256 You've been awarded a total of 256 Experience...
256 xp applied to general...

XP +64 You've been awarded 64 Experience...
64 xp applied to All Skills and Powers...

Which was very useful :D

thingirl
08-16-2009, 11:28 PM
It's Ironic: Unmatched (Yay)..... Padded (:p)

Young Ned
08-18-2009, 10:04 AM
Yeah. Some games (especially those based on AD&D) have restrictions as to which classes of characters can wear which kinds of armor. In those kinds of games, a character that can't wear anything better than padded armor would be thrilled to find some unmatched padded.

But those kinds of games generally let you play a party of up to six or so characters, so the magic-users stuck with padded armor are at least accompanied by some fighters who can wear plate mail.

So yeah, in a single-character game like this where any character can wear any armor, unmatched padded is pretty useless -- unless you're just about to set foot outside of Hawklor for the first time... :cool:

Plezier
08-18-2009, 10:13 AM
Hmmmm I seem to recall that one player was trying to collect all the Unmatched pieces of equipment. I have a fair collection including some duplicates so I shall be selling them to Gryphook as he seems to offer the most for them. Meanwhile I have just scraped enough XP's together to train Shadow Magic to level 70. That makes the third power to reach level 70 for Plezier.

Time to work on some others to bring them up ;) ..... Mind you I still need to acquire Unarmed as skill as well as Diplomacy :rolleyes: so far I have sufficed with bashing those I need to haggle with :D or stealing from them :).

Plezier
08-18-2009, 10:32 AM
Ahhh another run at the Cave results are:-

You discover the following items...
Take ? Spear (common)

Take ? Spiked Club (common)

Take ? Short Sword (common)

Take ? Iron Rod (common)

Take ? Studded Leather Boots (common)

Take ? Iron Staff (sturdy)

Take ? Banded Belt (exceptional)

Take ? Leather Sleeves (unmatched)

You find 4 gold tokens here.

You discover 3 valuable trinkets with a total value of 84 gold. The gold value for these trinkets will be reflected in the total below.

GOLD + 88 You've acquired 88 gold tokens.

"The ghostly vision of the shield glows very brightly. At the centre of the strange, hovering apparition is a shallow, jagged impression. "

You attempt to reach out and touch the shield, but your hand passes through the apparition.

XP +384 You've been awarded a total of 384 Experience...
384 xp applied to general...

XP +96 You've been awarded 96 Experience...
96 xp applied to All Skills and Powers...

Again poor Gold but another Unmatched armour item ;) XP's were not bad at all :D.

Doh!!! well that was my first run today.... yeah i know you onyl get one run but you get two or more IF your connection fails whilst traveling to somewhere safe to save and you have to restart ..................Grrr My second run was far worse in rewards:-

Take ? Longsword (common)

Take ? Short Sword (common)

Take ? Cudgel (common)

Take ? Club (common)

Take ? Leather Helm (sturdy)

Take ? Ring Greaves (superior)
Not only less but poorer as well!

You find 15 gold tokens here.

You discover 2 valuable trinkets with a total value of 76 gold. The gold value for these trinkets will be reflected in the total below.

GOLD + 91 You've acquired 91 gold tokens.


XP +256 You've been awarded a total of 256 Experience...
256 xp applied to general...


XP +64 You've been awarded 64 Experience...
64 xp applied to All Skills and Powers...

Oh woe is me ....................... excuse me I am just going to go and bang head against a brick wall!

zmflavius
08-18-2009, 03:46 PM
Ahhh another run at the Cave results are:-

You discover the following items...
Take ? Spear (common)

Take ? Spiked Club (common)

Take ? Short Sword (common)

Take ? Iron Rod (common)

Take ? Studded Leather Boots (common)

Take ? Iron Staff (sturdy)

Take ? Banded Belt (exceptional)

Take ? Leather Sleeves (unmatched)

You find 4 gold tokens here.

You discover 3 valuable trinkets with a total value of 84 gold. The gold value for these trinkets will be reflected in the total below.

GOLD + 88 You've acquired 88 gold tokens.

"The ghostly vision of the shield glows very brightly. At the centre of the strange, hovering apparition is a shallow, jagged impression. "

You attempt to reach out and touch the shield, but your hand passes through the apparition.

XP +384 You've been awarded a total of 384 Experience...
384 xp applied to general...

XP +96 You've been awarded 96 Experience...
96 xp applied to All Skills and Powers...

Again poor Gold but another Unmatched armour item ;) XP's were not bad at all :D.

Doh!!! well that was my first run today.... yeah i know you onyl get one run but you get two or more IF your connection fails whilst traveling to somewhere safe to save and you have to restart ..................Grrr My second run was far worse in rewards:-

Take ? Longsword (common)

Take ? Short Sword (common)

Take ? Cudgel (common)

Take ? Club (common)

Take ? Leather Helm (sturdy)

Take ? Ring Greaves (superior)
Not only less but poorer as well!

You find 15 gold tokens here.

You discover 2 valuable trinkets with a total value of 76 gold. The gold value for these trinkets will be reflected in the total below.

GOLD + 91 You've acquired 91 gold tokens.


XP +256 You've been awarded a total of 256 Experience...
256 xp applied to general...


XP +64 You've been awarded 64 Experience...
64 xp applied to All Skills and Powers...

Oh woe is me ....................... excuse me I am just going to go and bang head against a brick wall!

your ice cave loot is consistently better than mine, at least.

thingirl
08-18-2009, 08:34 PM
Are Ln and Sae doing the cave yet? Or is the evil dude who can hear thoughts going to beat up on the troll?

Plezier
08-19-2009, 03:14 PM
Ahhh zmflavius,

Sorry to hear your Ice Cave rewards are even worse than mine :(. I have not run through it as yet today as we had to go to town and when we got back with some time to play on the computer I had :-

'The Blood of Zardruzin'

To complete for the restoration of the Wand Of Dragonfire which I have just done. I am not thinking whether I should have stolen the Copper Coins for the trader or should I have purchased the Map? ..................... Hmmm decisions, decisions :confused: :rolleyes:

By stealign the map i got the wand restored and was rewarded with :-

XP +3,072 You've been awarded a total of 3,072 Experience...
3,072 xp applied to general...

XP +1,024 You've been awarded 1,024 Experience...
1024 xp applied to All Skills and Powers...

And of course by using Thievery to get the coins XP's in thievery was also recieved ;). Methinks I had better look this up a bit on Wiki :p.

zmflavius
08-19-2009, 05:41 PM
Are Ln and Sae doing the cave yet? Or is the evil dude who can hear thoughts going to beat up on the troll?

Neither Ln and Sae have reached the cave yet. Zm has already gotten his ice shield though.

thingirl
08-19-2009, 05:44 PM
I know. I looked and saw that he has the ice shield. And you wish your powers were are 100, but oh well...

zmflavius
08-19-2009, 05:48 PM
I know. I looked and saw that he has the ice shield. And you wish your powers were are 100, but oh well...

just necromancy actually. The rest are really for RP purposes.

thingirl
08-19-2009, 05:55 PM
Still powers at 100 are :cool:

Plezier
08-19-2009, 08:34 PM
Hmmm well I have some way to go to equal your power and skill levels :o but I have just completed my Ice Cave run for today :D and as I recently got my Shadow magic up to level 70 I could actually use it to help with the Troll. Before I had been dodging it's attacks :eek:. I can now see what you all mean by the XP's that can be obtained ny using powers in the cave:-

XP +51 You've been awarded a total of 51 Experience...
11 xp applied to general...
7 xp applied to Necromancy...
16 xp applied to Weaponry: Slashing...
17 xp applied to Weaponry...

SP +86 You've healed back 86 Stamina Point(s) from the combat.

XP +64 You've been awarded a total of 64 Experience...
64 xp applied to general...

You discover the following items...
Take ? Broad Sword (common)

Take ? Short Sword (common)

Take ? Banded Gauntlets (common)

Take ? Club (sturdy)

Take ? Plate Boots (common)

Take ? Ring Belt (sturdy)

Take ? Halberd (superior)


You find 2 gold tokens here.

You discover a valuable trinket with a value of 18 gold. The gold value for this trinket will be reflected in the total below.

GOLD + 20 You've acquired 20 gold tokens.

The vision of the shield is now almost blindingly-bright. At the centre of the strange, hovering apparition is a shallow, jagged impression.

Hmmm it's getting closer :D

XP +256 You've been awarded a total of 256 Experience...
256 xp applied to general...

XP +64 You've been awarded 64 Experience...
64 xp applied to All Skills and Powers...

So not so shabby this time ;)

psychoadept
08-19-2009, 08:38 PM
The vision of the shield is now almost blindingly-bright. At the centre of the strange, hovering apparition is a shallow, jagged impression.

Hmmm it's getting closer :D


Eventually it will start to tell you how many times you've defeated the troll.

shadowblack
08-19-2009, 08:40 PM
Just so you know: you get 136, 140 or 144 combat experience if you defeat the troll without using powers (except Restoration).

spencer
08-19-2009, 09:21 PM
Just so you know: you get 136, 140 or 144 combat experience if you defeat the troll without using powers (except Restoration).

I think you can get it if you use Fortification also, though I am not sure. Any other powers, you get significantly less.

smv1973
08-19-2009, 09:33 PM
Eventually it will start to tell you how many times you've defeated the troll.

I think you will start to see the number after run #13.

thingirl
08-19-2009, 10:29 PM
I thought it was 12. And if you look, Zm's skills are all 70, except for weaponry and slashing. And his powers are all 60s and 70s.

My powers are all at 70 or higher (except gateing at 69). :p

smv1973
08-19-2009, 11:09 PM
I thought it was 12. And if you look, Zm's skills are all 70, except for weaponry and slashing. And his powers are all 60s and 70s.

My powers are all at 70 or higher (except gateing at 69). :p

It maybe 12. I know it starts to show around run #12 or #13.

thingirl
08-19-2009, 11:32 PM
I looked it up on the wiki. It's 12. Link (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/The_Cave_of_the_Ice_Troll) for anyone who wants it.