Err...WTF happened to all my Valour?!

[TheRedFear]

I just beat Runeskin. I got my 512 Valour reward. Except it says 512 is ALL the valour I have. Up until now it's been giving me a running tally of my total Valour from all the previous runeskin quests. But suddenly, all I have is the 512. What happened?

Edit: Err...and apparently this is now my official introduction thread too. lol Hi everyone. I HAVE posted previously but it was on the old forum. Didn't realize the new one would start me from scratch. So Howdy all :)

[shadowblack]

Valour doesn't really matter.

[TheRedFear]

I know but someday it might and I don't want to be screwed out of all the other Valour points I earned when that day comes.

[zmflavius]

That's really not likely given that the runeskin line of quests is several years old already and valour seems to have been forgotten.

[Lightwielder]

I think it has to do with you using the Demonscourage's effect in the battle with Runeskin. Don't worry about it. If the Gamemaster DOES decide to bring back the valour bonuses, he'll give you more opportunities to get some. The fact that you beat Runeskin is definitely more important than your valour score.

[thingirl]

It's a bug. Valour dissapears when you save and quit. It happens to evrybody. And take the runes of Arcana, Illusion, Necromancy and 3 eye runes OR 6 eye runes. The Arcana, Illusion, Necromancy combo gives you Shadow Magic. But SM can also be gotten from the "The Eye of the Storm" adventuer in PGV.

[TheRedFear]

Ok. I have another WTF moment that needs to be addressed in the Aftermath of Runeskin.

My alignment has suddenly and abruptly PLUNGED down to Demonic and I have no idea why. I never payed much attention to my alignment but I know I performed a number of quests that RAISED it.

In the aftermath of the Runeskin events my alignment has suddenly gone Demonic and I don't know why. Since Runeskin all i've done is use the runes to get Shadow Magic, claimed Iakor's Deathblade and Crown, FINALLY got the Creynblade from Axepath Cemetary, did a few archery runs in the battlegrounds, and performed most of the Proving Grounds 2 quests(But not the part that, according to the wiki, gives you a downward alignment shift for attacking some sort of robed serpent guy. I was about to do that part of the Proving Grounds next in fact, when I noticed my new demonic alignment)

So what happened? How did my alignment suddenly drop all the way to demonic?

I tried unequipping the Iakor gear, and the runeskin ring. That didn't fix my alignment. I know alignment doesn't matter either but the roleplayer in me is very annoyed right now. Between my Valour loss and my Alignment drop, i'm a tad peeved.

[psychoadept]

My alignment has suddenly and abruptly PLUNGED down to Demonic and I have no idea why. I never payed much attention to my alignment but I know I performed a number of quests that RAISED it.


That'll be because you equipped the Iakor's weapon you got. You can fix it, just go visit Mezaryl in Trithik.

[Lightwielder]

Equipping Iakor's Deathblade plunges your Alignment down to Demonic. There is an option, however, if you want to fix it.

If you take Iakor's Deathblade to Mezaryl in Trithik, you can trade Iakor's Deathblade in for a Shimmering Silver Longsword. It's an essentially equivalent weapon, but it raises your alignment to Saintly; and your Alignment stays that way until otherwise changed, even if you un-equip it, just like Iakor's Deathblade. You're more than welcome to save before trying it out, but I recommend that you do try it out. It's quite a weapon.(still my weapon of choice, too.)

Regardless, it has to do with your equipment. I don't think Iakor's Crown does that, though, just his Deathblade. There are other weapons that do so, as well. Tzal-Toalth, I think does. Tzal-Kagoth does, and there are some others. Pay attention to this, and maybe use my tip above, and you can avoid this.

(Darn it, Psychoadept, you ninja'd me. I was hoping to get first reply. Fortunately, my answer is much more comprehensive than yours, so it still helps.)

[zmflavius]

For the record, Tzal-Toalth does not reduce your alignment to Demonic. Yes, even though like Tzal-Kagoth, it used to be owned by Jhaloth.

[thingirl]

The only weapon I ever had that lowered my Alignment was Iakors Deathblade. I'm gonna trust you guys when you say that Tzal-Kagoth turns you demonic.

As for the change: You can actually change your Iakor weapon for ANY SS weapon. Just know that you can't change your SS weapon once you have it.

[TheRedFear]

Thanks for clarifying everyone. I dont much want a "Saintly" alignment either(I was kinda aiming for a slightly north of neutral alignment if possible), but it's preferable to Demonic.

[psychoadept]

Thanks for clarifying everyone. I dont much want a "Saintly" alignment either(I was kinda aiming for a slightly north of neutral alignment if possible), but it's preferable to Demonic.

I'm with you. I wish we could get alignments un-extremed again, but there's not much to be done at the moment.

[thingirl]

I propose a new weapon:

The neutralizing (insert type here)
Class: Weapon, Slashing
Encumbrance: 4
Quality: Magical
Power: The Force of Peace
Melee Rating: +22
Stamina Points: +4
Body: +1
Mind: +1
Spirit: +1
Requires 12 Mind.
Requires 12 Body.
Requires 12 Spirit.

This weapon was used to end the war between the saints and the demons. It is also useful in neutralizing your enemies. Wielding this neutral weapon will change your alignment to neutral, but will still allow you to raise or lower it. This weapon is of magical quality.
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And, yes, I was looking at my SSL for reference ;).

[zmflavius]

I propose a new weapon:

The neutralfiing (insert type here)
Class: Weapon, Slashing
Encumbrance: 4
Quality: Magical
Power: The Force of Peace
Melee Rating: +22
Stamina Points: +4
Body: +1
Mind: +1
Spirit: +1
Requires 12 Mind.
Requires 12 Body.
Requires 12 Spirit.

This weapon was used to end the war between the saints and the demons. It is also useful in neturalifying your enemies. Wielding this neutral weapon will change your alignment to neutral, but will still allow you to raise or lower it. This weapon is of magical quality.
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And, yes, I was looking at my SSL for reference ;).

wouldn't the correct word be "neutralizing"?

[thingirl]

Yes, but I like making up words. (As you can tell from my spelling ;))

[Elrond]

Thanks for clarifying everyone. I dont much want a "Saintly" alignment either(I was kinda aiming for a slightly north of neutral alignment if possible), but it's preferable to Demonic.

You can achieve that by going saintly and then killing a few friendly woodsmen, travelers, minstrels, or border rangers. Not fun; but you'll have your preferred alignment. But not for long since you might equip and unequip your Shimmering Silver weapon a couple of times in the upcoming adventures.

[Tetracapillactomist]

Well, you can also keep Iakor's 'deathbringer,' dip it these days in the Silver Cathedral's pool in Talinus, removing the curse from it, and work your way up from 'Demonic,' by way of the pool and good deeds, if you're willing to give up the stat boost for that weapon (for the time being! - that may change), and have no desire for the Silver-Banded breastplate... or such... the story of my 'Nobility...'

(I saw a guest looking at this thread, and thought it better to update the info herein, in case they're more than just a random bot or spider.)

[Oldschool]

Nice necro-updating of the thread Tetra - well deserved.

Similarly, I often check the "who's online" and add tags to older threads. Well often past tense as I've been slack about that lately. Until this reminder as I added some tags to this thread as well.

Necro-update all you want Tetra et. al.. After all like TC said you never know if it's an actual guest, etc...

Or even if it's a known bot/spider it doesn't hurt to update threads as one never knows when someone may read 'em in the future.

Started on (actually completed) an off topic tangent then moved it here, http://www.srythforum.com/showthread.php?p=58113&postcount=11

[Tetracapillactomist]

Thanks, OS.

Then I also thought that the crawlers are actually used for referencing as well, so search engines may pick up on terms in old threads with outdated or erroneous info, and people reading them may then think them valid still.