Tome of Attainment - Speculation

[Young Ned]

That's possible, too. We'll see...

[jimyred]

The first thing that popped into my mind was something similar to the Border Ranger stuff, where you do so much stuff and are promoted to the next level (chapter). Obviously it would have a broader target than what those missions did . . .

[Oldschool]

Well I just climbed on the fence after thinking about it while at work. :rolleyes::) Perhaps the GM is going to go back to the previous adventures or a significant portion of them. That would be a lot of old content and depending on his conversion ratio (for lack of a better term) a fair amount to a lot of new content. That could explain why as Young Ned mentions that it's taken so long for the Tome to be "penned".

[luvvwalker]

Can someone please help ??!! I'm stuck in the bonepit scenario in the path to Kardsen part 2 in PG6 - There are 3 levers to open some door and I have tried every possible combination but nothing changes - What am I doing wrong ??????????

[jimyred]

check the forum for PG 6, it's in there. Look here (http://www.srythforum.com/showpost.php?p=3706&postcount=25)

[smv1973]

Can someone please help ??!! I'm stuck in the bonepit scenario in the path to Kardsen part 2 in PG6 - There are 3 levers to open some door and I have tried every possible combination but nothing changes - What am I doing wrong ??????????

Here is the answer you are looking for.

Two levers go 'up' and one lever goes 'down'.

The two levers in the bottom-left of the map go 'up' and the remaining lever in the top-left of the map goes 'down'.

[smv1973]

Well I just climbed on the fence after thinking about it while at work. :rolleyes::) Perhaps the GM is going to go back to the previous adventures or a significant portion of them. That would be a lot of old content and depending on his conversion ratio (for lack of a better term) a fair amount to a lot of new content. That could explain why as Young Ned mentions that it's taken so long for the Tome to be "penned".

Here is a post by Havoc when he sent the GM an email asking about the Tome.


Here's what the GM had to say:

I read your message on the Tome of Attainment. It will be something like
what you described. At various intervals, based on a character's
achievements, or combination of achievements, a page will appear in the
tome. The page may provide information, a bonus, an item, access to an
adventure, etc.

The tome will be somewhat costly to obtain, though not out of reach for
the average adventurer, and it will ultimately make up for its cost in
the bonuses and other rewards its pages will provide.

The "hand of fate" decisions that appear in various spots in certain
adventures will play a role in some of the pages that will appear in the
tome.

[texlaw1992]

Now that was interesting. It suggests that at least some of the Chapters in the Tome will be some sort of "sequel" to the adventures we've already concluded, as I theorized earlier.

I had thought that the GM would reuse some of the old adventures simply due to the size of the new content. However, if a part of the Tome is bonuses and a part is new adventures, then maybe he has been working on it for a while. I'm really looking forward to it.

[Oldschool]

Nice necrothread SMV thanks.

Still it'll be interesting to see how much "old" content is figured into the Tome. Again I'm now on the fence regarding the old stuff. However even taking the GM's generosity into account if a lot of it is applied I don't think the conversion rate will be that high or the Tome will be full of riches from the get go for most of us that's been playing for more than a few months.

Again thanks for the reminder re: Havoc's correspondence as it'll be especially nice to see those Hand of Fate decisions implemented in the ToA. Then again depending upon one's decison(s) it may not be as nice as others.

EDIT:

Although it seems as if xp won't be required to level the Tome at least like "traditional" items (Phantom items, FoD, etc.) it'll be nice to finally find out. Of course xp may indeed be required per above or elsewise ( ? don't think that word is in the Scrabble dictionary) as with guilds. Either way I like to hold onto a modest amount of general for the alts and a substantial amount with my main for leveling skills/powers or items. Even so I'm holding a little more than I would with the alts just in case the ToA needs it.

I know of some other players that are doing the same and suspect others are as well. Once the Tome's been out for awhile if we don't need it it'll be a nice bonus to have that "extra" xp for leveling.

Also we should finally find out what all the fuss is about over that copper token.

Edit2: RE: Elsewise.... Then again, http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Elsewise

[billydakid]

If old content is involved i'll eat my sword. The only old content I think may be involved is things we've already done and we just go to the tome to get our bonus or rewards. so it will be like an easy reward for that event because it's already done.

[texlaw1992]

There were a couple of adventures where we could take different paths to reach the ultimate objective (the first Giants scenario comes to mind). It would be nice to have an opportunity to replay those scenarios to experience the alternate path (or paths).

Anyway, we'll see. I have the ATs, XPs and Gold for the Tome.

[Young Ned]

There were a couple of adventures where we could take different paths to reach the ultimate objective (the first Giants scenario comes to mind). It would be nice to have an opportunity to replay those scenarios to experience the alternate path (or paths).

You already had that opportunity. With any adventure that isn't a PG, such as the Giants scenarios,* it is possible to abandon the adventure at any time and replay all the alternate paths with no penalty (apart from the additional time required).

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*Except for any adventure that requires you to use the travel system to go to another location, but there aren't too many of those.

[shadowblack]

And even Adventures that require Travel can be abandoned - just quit without saving and it'll be like you never started it. That's what I do most of the time.

[paladin]

Well I was right about getting rewarded for adventures already completed in much the same way as the Quickstone. True you will have to complete each chapter to get the full reward but it sounds as though we'll already have unlocked some chapters by the time we acquire the tome since it knows what we've done.

[billydakid]

exactly Paladin.

[texlaw1992]

I never tried quitting and then restarting to try alternate paths. Looking back on it, I probably should have done that. However, you still can only keep the rewards from one of the paths doing it that way. If we can replay some scenarios through the Tome, then we can get everything it has to offer. Anyway, we'll see.

[paladin]

I never tried quitting and then restarting to try alternate paths. Looking back on it, I probably should have done that. However, you still can only keep the rewards from one of the paths doing it that way. If we can replay some scenarios through the Tome, then we can get everything it has to offer. Anyway, we'll see.

'I don't think it's going to work quite like that. But I guess we'll find out.

[scout1idf]

I never tried quitting and then restarting to try alternate paths. Looking back on it, I probably should have done that. However, you still can only keep the rewards from one of the paths doing it that way. If we can replay some scenarios through the Tome, then we can get everything it has to offer. Anyway, we'll see.
Problem is, I played most of the content like that so long ago, I don't remember which way I went the first time.......

[Spickett]

I wonder if the book will actually have penalties in as well? I mean, there are decisions you made that could give you a bad "track record" according to the book, don't you think?

[spencer]

Problem is, I played most of the content like that so long ago, I don't remember which way I went the first time.......

But the good thing is, we will have forgotten some details, so it will be like playing it for the first time, to some degree.

[scout1idf]

But the good thing is, we will have forgotten some details, so it will be like playing it for the first time, to some degree.
Good point.

This time around if I want to try the different paths, I now know that I can.

The first time around for me was pre-forum/wiki. I started playing in April and found the forum in June. By then I had almost everything completed (to that point) and it was to late to delete my character and start over.

Back then I was afraid to "abandon" or "quit without saving" not knowing if it would mess me up.....

[Oldschool]

Still on the fence on how I think the Tome will play out. But I think it's possible that we may get to replay adventures. Probably with a different reward system and pared down considerably. Not a programmer but I think it'd be fairly easy for the GM to implement something along these lines even if he changed some of the content.

I also think past and/or future events may open up new and unique adventures/content. If this is the case I still think the return or exchange rate will be somewhat low. Mainly for the fact that if NOT it will require a lot of updates especially if old content is figured into it.

Although rerunning old stuff would be easier for the GM I don't think it'll be entirely rehashed stuff - if at all. For example the Hand of Fate decisions. I think those will definitely evolve into new stuff.

[texlaw1992]

I definitely don't believe it'll all be rehashed content - in fact, it looks like we'll get a lot of new content. I just can't believe that it's all new content given the Tome is so large that there is a limit on how often we can use it per day. Still, whatever the content, I'm ready and waiting.

[Oldschool]

Ohhh the limits per day got me thinking. Maybe the Tome will be a new grinder. X number of times per day one is allowed to rerun certain adventures.

Hopefully the Tome will hit the bookshelf soon so all my spectacular speculating :rolleyes: will screech to a stop. :)

[billydakid]

the reason the bome will be large is because you'll have stuff you can do daily. Thats why it is so large.

[taproot97]

the reason the bome will be large is because you'll have stuff you can do daily. Thats why it is so large.

Bome ??? LOL
Sorry for becoming a spell moderator but i found this funny .

[billydakid]

lol I didn't even realize I did that fast fingers TOME lol. It had nothing to do with spelling just my fast fingers.

[paladin]

lol I didn't even realize I did that fast fingers TOME lol. It had nothing to do with spelling just my fast fingers.

I've done that many times. Sometimes the results were quite amusing if slightly off-color.

[Doolipalally]

And we have a date! Somehow that makes the suspense a lot worse.

[smv1973]

The Tome of Attainment
The Tome of Attainment will be available starting on February 15th. Be sure to visit Blade Square in Trithik before that date to acquire one of Tallys's Copper Tokens which entitle their bearer to a substantial discount on the Tome!

[Elrond]

And we have a date! Somehow that makes the suspense a lot worse.

Yeah, but the tome might be out of the tomb by then! And then we'll know if the wait was worth it or not (but I'm pretty sure it will be worth it).

[Oldschool]

Nice of the GM to make Tallys's Copper Tokens available for those that haven't gotten them already.

Well since we've got a couple weeks to wait I'm wondering about a couple things.

I don't think it's much of a stretch that "The Creeping Wood" will be a prerequisite for the Tome. I just wonder if they'll be other prerequisites (i.e. skills/powers levels, additional quests, etc...). I can't remember is "The Missing Hilt" or anything else a prerequisite for "The Creeping Wood" or does anyone know for sure?

My other question is for "later" characters. I wonder if they'll be afforded an opportunity to get one of Tallys's Copper Tokens since currently they seem to be a limited time event although the GM has resurrected them a few times. If it turns out "The Creeping Wood" is a prereq I think it'd be pretty easy for the GM to tie the Copper Token to that adventure.

Fortunately all my characters have one of Tallys's "coupons" (I'll double check to make sure). Since we currently don't know how/if the Tokens will be around after the Tome goes live and since there is no prerequisite that I'm aware of to get one folks should make sure they get theirs before the 15th.

If you've got unfilled character slots now may be the time to fill them. If for no other reason, so you can get one of those tokens to put it in your pocket for later.

[billydakid]

Ah thanks a lot GM you told us what day to expect the tome out. What the heck did you do that for? lol. Now thats like telling me when I was a little kid that we still had to wait 2 more weeks for Christmas. Man those 2 weeks are gonna take forever. Man I think you should have just surpised us with the day it was comming out. I know I know you'll tell me that you had to tell the people to go get the token if they didn't have it. You could have just told them go get your tokens it's your last chance. Now I got to count the days until Christmas. I mean the days until the tome comes out. Marks down on calander feb 14th is tome eve. You don't suppose we can open our present a day early on tome eve do ya? My mom and dad always let us open one present on Christmas eve. On the first day of tome my true love gave to me---

[Oldschool]

Well let's just hope there aren't any unexpected delays that'll prolong our wait.

[Elrond]

Countdown to the Tome's introduction (according to latest deadline of Feb 15th):

Feb. 5th: 10 ...

[smv1973]

Countdown to the Tome's introduction (according to latest deadline of Feb 15th):

Feb. 6th: 9 days to go.

[paladin]

It's interesting to note that the Tome is scheduled for release on my mother's birthday, not that she's a Srythian. Come to think of it I think I'm the only one in my family. My brother might have joined until he found out that there aren't any hookers. But then again he could have been kidding about that. He does things like that to annoy me sometimes. He kept saying he was going to log into my account and blow all my gold on beer and prostitutes. Now that'd be interesting... But here's hoping that...No...mustn't say it...mustn't jinx...

[billydakid]

Sorry to disappoint you all. I've stolen all the tomes. So I guess i'm the only one who will get one. I'm the grinch who stole Christmas.

[thingirl]

I'm the grinch who stole Christmas.

Why, Billy, why?

(OK, so I forget Cindy Loo Who's actual line, but...)

[scout1idf]

As far as the tome is concerned, Scout will get one someday, no rush.....

**continues to pace the halls of Seeker Castle**

[smv1973]

Countdown to the Tome's introduction (according to latest deadline of Feb 15th):

Feb. 7th - 8 days to go.

[Elrond]

Feb. 8th: 7 ...

Feb. 9th: 6 ...

Feb. 10th: 5 ...

[spencer]

I hope that the lack of news updates (none since 1/31) means that he is working feverishly on the TOA and it will be out on Monday..anyway, I am sure that it will be well worth the wait.

[billydakid]

Yeah but I realy want that next part of the pg to.

[taproot97]

Duh.

[Doolipalally]

Duh.

Sorry, taproot, but this definitely falls into my 'really unhelpful posts' category. If you've got something to say, could you maybe use a few more words so the rest of us can get the point?

[paladin]

Sorry, taproot, but this definitely falls into my 'really unhelpful posts' category. If you've got something to say, could you maybe use a few more words so the rest of us can get the point?

Yeah. Here's my take on the thing. I really hope it's stable enough to come out on Monday. I had to go to the dentist yesterday to get some fillings replaced and I still have a few more to do, which I'm scheduled for on Monday. I hate going to the dentist on the best days. If the Tome comes out it'll give me something to look forward to while my mouth is still numb from Novocaine and I sound like i'm drunk every time I talk.

[Doolipalally]

Yeah. Here's my take on the thing. I really hope it's stable enough to come out on Monday. I had to go to the dentist yesterday to get some fillings replaced and I still have a few more to do, which I'm scheduled for on Monday. I hate going to the dentist on the best days. If the Tome comes out it'll give me something to look forward to while my mouth is still numb from Novocaine and I sound like i'm drunk every time I talk.

I know that numb feeling! Here's hoping the Tome's around to give you some much-needed distraction :)

[billydakid]

Oh man you guys use novocane? Forget the novocane just give me the drill. I don't have many cavitys but when I do forget the novocane.

[shadowblack]

Feb. 11th: 4 days remaining...

[billydakid]

Jeez I told you guys I've taken all the tomes you need to fight me to get them lol.

[spencer]

Jeez I told you guys I've taken all the tomes you need to fight me to get them lol.


Well, as long as we have waited and based upon how good that they sound...you just tell me where and when and me and Elrond and tex and TG and well, you get the idea...will be there to take you on!!

[thingirl]

Oooh, I better get something to block his lvl 100 powers. Or maybe just back up Elrond ;) Let's see, the Finger's fully charged...

[Elrond]

Oooh, I better get something to block his lvl 100 powers. Or maybe just back up Elrond ;) Let's see, the Finger's fully charged...

I'll do the melee; just negate his powers and the tomes will be ours; muhahahahahahaha!

[Doolipalally]

Guys, just distract him for long enough, and I'll nip in and pinch the books :)

[thingirl]

Guys, just distract him for long enough, and I'll nip in and pinch the books :)

Don't say that, now he knows. :)

[billydakid]

I'll tell ya what I'll l do gang. for Dolli Elrond to and Spencer I'll give you one but we can have fun and snitch them from all the others. Now that's being a nice guy.

[spencer]

I'll tell ya what I'll l do gang. for Dolli Elrond to and Spencer I'll give you one but we can have fun and snitch them from all the others. Now that's being a nice guy.


If you'll throw in a few free smacks at Runie, then I am definitely in and everyone else (except for dooli and Elrond) can fend for themselves :D

[Elrond]

If you'll throw in a few free smacks at Runie, then I am definitely in and everyone else (except for dooli and Elrond) can fend for themselves :D

Why are you leaving me out of it?

[spencer]

I am not leaving you out...my grammar is just poor. I meant that you, dooli and myself will agree to share with BDK and let the rest fend for themselves. Sorry for the confusion.

[texlaw1992]

There was a '90s movie starring Hulk Hogan with "Alien" in the title. Anyway, he proceeded to smash up some property owned by his annoying neighbors. The following conversation (more or less) then occurred:

Hulk Hogan: So what are you going to do? Smash my nose? Break my face?

Neighbor: Heck no, this is the '90s, we're gonna sue you.

So who wants to be the plaintiff in our Sryth class action lawsuit against Billy, i.e., Thingirl, et al. v. Billydakid, before his Royal Highness in the Federal Court of Talinus, etc.?

Of course, Billy could buy me off with a Tome, hint hint ...

[spencer]

There was a '90s movie starring Hulk Hogan with "Alien" in the title. Anyway, he proceeded to smash up some property owned by his annoying neighbors. The following conversation (more or less) then occurred:

Hulk Hogan: So what are you going to do? Smash my nose? Break my face?

Neighbor: Heck no, this is the '90s, we're gonna sue you.

So who wants to be the plaintiff in our Sryth class action lawsuit against Billy, i.e., Thingirl, et al. v. Billydakid, before his Royal Highness in the Federal Court of Talinus, etc.?

Of course, Billy could buy me off with a Tome, hint hint ...


*rolls his eyes and mutters under his breath at what a big surprise it is that a lawyer would say something like that*

[zmflavius]

There was a '90s movie starring Hulk Hogan with "Alien" in the title. Anyway, he proceeded to smash up some property owned by his annoying neighbors. The following conversation (more or less) then occurred:

Hulk Hogan: So what are you going to do? Smash my nose? Break my face?

Neighbor: Heck no, this is the '90s, we're gonna sue you.

So who wants to be the plaintiff in our Sryth class action lawsuit against Billy, i.e., Thingirl, et al. v. Billydakid, before his Royal Highness in the Federal Court of Talinus, etc.?

Of course, Billy could buy me off with a Tome, hint hint ...

Unfortunately, I am already serving in the capacity of Judge, Plaintiff, Jury, Observers, and ZDIA police gorillas.

[billydakid]

cool it's a deal I love beating up Runnie

[MrBlack]

"While the negotiaons happend I stole in and stole.Try to catch me."


Happy Hunting
Mr.Black


Thus read the letter they found before them, fog still trailing from the envelope.

[Oldschool]

Thought I'd look over the Sryth Newsletter since it's been awhile since I read it and thought this noteworthy.

** A SPECIAL APPEARANCE BY TALLYS **
Tallys, the famed proprietor of the legendary Trading Post near Trithik that bears his name, will make a special appearance in Blade Square on Friday, July 10th. The retired master adventurer will be handing out tokens that will entitle those lucky enough to receive them to a substantial discount on a very special item he will soon be offering for sale. The rumour that the item in question is the fabled Tome of Attainment has not been substantiated.

Boy oh boy time does fly.....

[Elrond]

So who wants to be the plaintiff in our Sryth class action lawsuit against Billy, i.e., Thingirl, et al. v. Billydakid, before his Royal Highness in the Federal Court of Talinus, etc.?

Hmmm, would it be a federal court in a monarchy? ;)

In any case,

Feb 12th: 3 ....

[texlaw1992]

"Royal" or "Provincial" would be better.

[Doolipalally]

'Crown Court' is the UK version.

[Elrond]

Feb. 13th: 2 ..............

[paladin]

Feb. 13th: 2 ..............

Let's just hope nothing comes up to throw that off...

[billydakid]

Ah I knew the Gm had to be puking his brains out. He usually doesn't go that long without posting an announcement. I also knew the tomb wouldn't be out Feb 15th. Hope ya feel better GM.

[racey]

2/13/10 - Game Updates
My humble apologies to all for the delay with recent releases, including the latest scenario in the Alder Throne Proving Grounds adventure.

A particularly nasty bout with with the flu (or was it stoneskin fever?) has sidelined your humble and normally-robust gamemaster for nearly a week.

The next scenario in the current Proving Grounds adventure (The Alder Throne) is expected to go live in the next few days. Following its release will be the launch of the Tome of Attainment.

Thanks to all of Sryth's brave adventurers for your patience!

[Oldschool]

Weelll...... <in mock accusation> I guess folks won't be engaging in anymore jinxing content countdowns now will they. :cool:;)

I blame Gilborn. If he'd have gotten off his keister and had those elixirs available........

[billydakid]

lol at oldschool. way to go Elrond and others for jinxing it with your countdown. lol. Now who was the wise guy that gave the GM the flu. Maybe it was Runnie and he tried to give him swine flu. Yikes hope it wasn't swine be he had it for a week.

[paladin]

lol at oldschool. way to go Elrond and others for jinxing it with your countdown. lol. Now who was the wise guy that gave the GM the flu. Maybe it was Runnie and he tried to give him swine flu. Yikes hope it wasn't swine be he had it for a week.

D'oh...
And "the next few days" I've noticed can mean just about anything where the GM is concerned. And here I was expecting to have something to look forward to after the dentist on Monday. I say again, d'oh!

[Oldschool]

Friendly reminder to folks, be sure to get your Tallys's Copper Token if you haven't already.

Here's a partial copy and paste from Official News....

The Tome of Attainment will be available starting on February 15th. Be sure to visit Blade Square in Trithik before that date to acquire one of Tallys's Copper Tokens which entitle their bearer to a substantial discount on the Tome!

And since we have some more time to speculate.......

The Tome has been put off due to the GM's bout with the flu. I wonder if TCT will now be available up until the Tome goes live? Maybe maybe not but I wouldn't take a chance. Also I'm still wondering what will happen with the token after the Tome goes live - will "new" characters have a chance to acquire it?

Lastly when the Tome goes live we should find out what the discount is, but I'm wondering if we'll find out the significance of that "E" that's stamped into it.

Oh I almost forgot, by the way.....

Countdown to the Tome: ? :p:cool:;)

[billydakid]

oh now stop that oldschool. You'll make texty cry.

[Elrond]

Feb 14th: 1 ... ;)

[texlaw1992]

Nah, I'm not crying, just biding my time until the Tome gets here. Besides, this is going to be a busy week, so I actually prefer a delay of a few days. Now I must go and continue my Zen meditation, stay centered and focused, happy thoughts, only happy thoughts ...

[shadowblack]

Feb 15th: 0?

[paladin]

Feb 15th: 0?

Well it obviously isn't zero what with the new delay. Hopefully it's not too long of one. I'm running out of things to do to keep from going nuts. And since i don't actually own a set of Uilleann Pipes I can't even train that particular skill.

[billydakid]

lol. Texty. Passes a box of tissues to Texty just because he may not be able to help himself.

[thingirl]

Nah, I'm not crying, just biding my time until the Tome gets here. Besides, this is going to be a busy week, so I actually prefer a delay of a few days. Now I must go and continue my Zen meditation, stay centered and focused, happy thoughts, only happy thoughts ...

Oh you you mean to just Think Happy Thoughts (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6n6_O3NbUfs)? Sorry for the low quality video, it was the best I could find.

I BLAME MY SISTER!!!!!!!!!!!

[Oldschool]

Well it obviously isn't zero what with the new delay. Hopefully it's not too long of one. I'm running out of things to do to keep from going nuts. And since i don't actually own a set of Uilleann Pipes I can't even train that particular skill.


Uilleann Pipes, and a Tin Whistle for that matter, being played by a mouth numbed with Novocaine. I imagine that would produce quite some sounds regardless of one's mastery. ;) Of course that kind of music might be good accompaniment to this song. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKLTSTLZgUM) :cool:

Seriously Paladin hope all goes well at the dentist.

[texlaw1992]

TG's video helped - must find my center, stay focused, happy thoughts ...

By the way, welcome back Wetheril. A belated Happy Valentine's Day to you.

[paladin]

Uilleann Pipes, and a Tin Whistle for that matter, being played by a mouth numbed with Novocaine. I imagine that would produce quite some sounds regardless of one's mastery. ;) Of course that kind of music might be good accompaniment to this song. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKLTSTLZgUM) :cool:

Seriously Paladin hope all goes well at the dentist.

Well actually Oldschool, the only one of those two instruments that requires the mouth to play is the penny whistle. Uilleann Pipes are unlike other bagpipes in that they're not mouth-blown. Instead you have a bellows, which you strap to your right side, or at least the side opposite the bag if you happen to be lefthanded. You use the one arm to pump the bellows while the other squeezes the bag. Then to produce the melody you work the chanter by covering or uncovering specific holes to produce the various notes. So the Uilleann Pipe would be unaffected by my numb mouth. The penny whistle's a different story though.

[wetheril]

By the way, welcome back Wetheril. A belated Happy Valentine's Day to you.

Thanks for the welcome back, texlaw. Fiance and I are going to see Wicked in SF tonight, since we couldn't get tickets for it on Valentine's Day. I've been looking forward to going to an actual production.

@Thingirl: Nice video! xD Now I can't unsee it.

[thingirl]

Proof that kid's shows are still cute no matter how old you are. Also, another one that I thought of (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJCh6dB439k) :D:D:D:D:D:D:D

[wetheril]

Proof that kid's shows are still cute no matter how old you are. Also, another one that I thought of (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJCh6dB439k) :D:D:D:D:D:D:D

ROFL! Good one. I hope that also includes "Don't Bite Your Siblings". ;)

[thingirl]

Well, after it happened mom told her "Don't, don't bite your sister!"

[Elrond]

Welcome back, Wetheril! I hope you had a nice vacation from the game; but we need you back at full-throttle in the game and forum. Don't stay away too long :) .

[Young Ned]

While we're posting cheery videos, just remember, Don't Worry, Be Happy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9K4BKkLaCI)...

And welcome back, Wetheril. Uh, how long have you been gone?

[Oldschool]

Nice song selection Young Ned. One, if not the biggest, a cappela hit song ever.

Here's a few nice covers done a cappela.

Rihanna's Umbrella (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3qrgqpX2Ho)

Michael Jackson's Thriller (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Shdnv1GYClA)

Queen's Bohemian Rhapsody (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyqpjkCwEI4)

[Young Ned]

Thanks, Oldschool. I remember "Don't Worry, Be Happy" was huge on the radio back when it came out.

Bobby McFerrin was a pretty amazing performer. I remember seeing him on TV once where he did the entire Wizard of Oz in 7-1/2 minutes -- hard to believe, especially since he spent the first two minutes on "Somewhere Over the Rainbow" alone.

Ha, I found it on YouTube: Bobby McFerrin does Wizard of Oz (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1mvfzoHm9g). Be amazed. :D

[Elrond]

With the "unannounced" Winteriron Helms raffle out of the way, let the speculation on the ToA's introduction to the game resume. I'm guessing at an unofficial deadline of Feb. 28th:

Feb 22nd: 7 .... ;)

[Oldschool]

As long as it ain't Feb 29th...... :cool:

[billydakid]

I'm guessing march maybe April.

[spencer]

Let's have a little lottery of our own...not that you actually win anything, but my official guess is March 11th :)

[thingirl]

This is ridiculous, it's not even funny. (note today's date and Spencer's guess :))

I'm guessing some time this week, probably the 26th.

[paladin]

This is ridiculous, it's not even funny. (note today's date and Spencer's guess :))

I'm guessing some time this week, probably the 26th.

I'm not even going to guess. I don't want to risk jinxing it again.

[Elrond]

How about the possibility of this project being put off indefinitely :) What are the chances?

The above might be called a reverse-jinx. Blurt out the worst option and something better than that is bound to happen!

[billydakid]

Ok an offical guess March 15th delayed a whole month.The worst option another year.

[Oldschool]

I'm guessing within the next week to ten days.

The previous announcement (end of Jan) mentioned the latest PG scenario being several days away and the ToA being available on the 15th. About a week or so gap. That was before the flu sidelined the GM.

I'm figuring on that time frame more or less. Add a day or two extra for the Winteriron contest and a few more days to catch up on other game matters from the flu....

I'll go with a week or ten days - give or take a few.

Also does anyone know what the status is on the availability of Tallys's Copper Token? Just wondering.

[MrBlack]

I bet tommrow is the day. ;)

[thingirl]

The above might be called a reverse-jinx. Blurt out the worst option and something better than that is bound to happen!

GET OUT OF MY HEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I said almost the exact same thing as that right about the same thing you posted it!

OK, so my Archery class is on Mondays. I'm new at this, and so I don't do very well. I had been hitting only one arrow (out of 5) per round. Then my first arrow of the round hit, and I said,

"You watch, that'll be my only arrow to hit this round." My friends said that if I say negative things, then I won't shoot good. I agreed, but then said

"However, I've been calling everything wrong lately, so if I say it, it won't come true." I hit three arrows that round.

[texlaw1992]

Happy thoughts, only happy thoughts ...

[billydakid]

Texty needs to keep happy thoughts about the tome because he's been disappointed so many times lol.

[Elrond]

Drum-roll, drum-roll, drum-roll ....

Feb. 23rd: 6 .....

[paladin]

Drum-roll, drum-roll, drum-roll ....

Feb. 23rd: 6 .....

Let's hope so. But I'm trying not to hope too hard.

[Oldschool]

Drum-roll, drum-roll, drum-roll ....

Feb. 23rd: 6 .....

Let's hope that ain't a jinxing jeremiad tuning up in the background. :p

[texlaw1992]

I've taken the initiative this time to email the GM about when we might expect the Tome. I'll let you know if I hear back.

Happy thoughts continue ...

[billydakid]

Elrond is dreaming lol,or having a nightmare lol.

[billydakid]

Texty because you've asked about the tome so much everyone gets one but you lol. did you ever think the Gm may be messing with your head texty and there is no tome lol.

[paladin]

Texty because you've asked about the tome so much everyone gets one but you lol. did you ever think the Gm may be messing with your head texty and there is no tome lol.

If that's the case then he'd have been messing with all our heads LOL. We've all seen what we believe to be the Tome in that new building outside Tallys'.

[Elrond]

Elrond is dreaming lol,or having a nightmare lol.

Neither a dream nor a nightmare ;) I've moved beyond deadlines with the ToA, which was introduced to us 6 months ago. My hunch is that the GM is doing his best to bring it out; but when that will happen is an open guess.

[billydakid]

Paladin see it's all part of the master plan by the GM he puts the tome out so you can see it but you can't touch it. It's like a piece of candy he puts it there for the taking and then bam takes it away. What a brilliant move by our GM lol. You all fell for it to and the GM is laughing his butt off.

[Silk]

Actually he emailed me and said that anybody who tried to get the tablets or sit on the Alder Throne changed history and there is no Tome in their new reality...

[zmflavius]

Actually he emailed me and said that anybody who tried to get the tablets or sit on the Alder Throne changed history and there is no Tome in their new reality...

:rolleyes:

[thingirl]

Actually he emailed me and said that anybody who tried to get the tablets or sit on the Alder Throne changed history and there is no Tome in their new reality...

I actually almost believe you. But I agree with Zm more.

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:*uggh* People just DON'T get it. *sigh* Whatever...

[Doolipalally]

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:*uggh* People just DON'T get it. *sigh* Whatever...

Huh?

[thingirl]

I'm close to snapping. And it doesn't help that I have a cleaning scheduled at the dentist in 2 hours that mom didn't tell me about until this morning. Did I mention I have severe dentalphobia?

[Doolipalally]

I'm close to snapping. And it doesn't help that I have a cleaning scheduled at the dentist in 2 hours that mom didn't tell me about until this morning. Did I mention I have severe dentalphobia?

Much sympathy! I hate going to the dentist, too. Somehow my jaws never seem to stretch as wide as they want.

Re the Tome, I'm really feeling sorry for the GM. It's obviously turned into a bigger project than he originally envisaged, and then the 'flu came along as well. I'm in patience mode.

[thingirl]

They rescheduled me to 10 (from 11). Small mouths (even if they're linked to fast fingers) are a real curse when it comes to the dentist's office.

"Try not to tighten your lip now." How can I NOT tighten my lip when she's pulling it down so much that it feels like she's ripping it off my face!

I'm OK now. Don't worry. :)

[paladin]

They rescheduled me to 10 (from 11). Small mouths (even if they're linked to fast fingers) are a real curse when it comes to the dentist's office.

"Try not to tighten your lip now." How can I NOT tighten my lip when she's pulling it down so much that it feels like she's ripping it off my face!

I'm OK now. Don't worry. :)

I recently had three dental appointments in the space of three weeks. The first was a standard checkup during which they found a cavity and about five or six old fillings that needed replacing. So they took care of that during the next two appointments. Both times it took about three or four hours for the feeling to come back to my mouth. And I agree that my jaws can never seem to stretch as wide as they want. And then they wonder if it's bothering me. Uhm, what do you think? And then they want to engage you in conversation while they work. I'm all for small talk but it's kinda hard when your mouth is open to its fullest extent and filled with plastic and mental implements. And if they have to numb you it's even worse because you sound like you've spent the entire morning up to that point drinking booz. This is coming from someone who doesn't drink at all and has never been drunk. I can't honestly say I've never tasted alcohol but I've never gotten much enjoyment out of it.

[thingirl]

Think happy thoughts, happy thoughts, that's what you've gotta do...

I'm sorry, Paladin. That's nasty.

I had an escape in that they were playing my favorite radio station in the building and I could hear it.

Think happy thoughts...

[Elrond]

Actually he emailed me and said that anybody who tried to get the tablets or sit on the Alder Throne changed history and there is no Tome in their new reality...

Aye, aye! Lol ... I like the way you think, Silk! You should post more often :p

As to Urumyr, does anyone think it is a small gesture from the GM vis-a-vis ToA delay?

[texlaw1992]

Still no response to my email from the GM.

He'd better hope I keep thinking happy thoughts and not start thinking subpoenas (lol).

Happy thoughts, keep with the happy thoughts ...

[paladin]

Aye, aye! Lol ... I like the way you think, Silk! You should post more often :p

As to Urumyr, does anyone think it is a small gesture from the GM vis-a-vis ToA delay?

Urumyr? Did I miss something somewhere?

[paladin]

Urumyr? Did I miss something somewhere?

Never mind. I did figure it out. Checked Srythadventurer's journal. Nice little surprise.

[Oldschool]

Here's a little dentist humor, lol. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBqY6cJD3CE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOtMizMQ6oM

[texlaw1992]

Still no email from the GM, even to say "it's coming." I'm becoming a tad miffed.

Tell you what Mr. GM, I'll donate again once the Tome comes out, which makes it a win-win situation for all concerned.

Happy thoughts, think happy thoughts ...

[Doolipalally]

I wonder how many people have also emailed the GM to ask 'when are we getting the Tome' (or 'when can we go to Tarn's second lower level', or 'when are we going to get the Sword of Merzekk', etc etc). It wouldn't surprise me if he had rather a lot of correspondence on similar subjects.

[paladin]

I wonder how many people have also emailed the GM to ask 'when are we getting the Tome' (or 'when can we go to Tarn's second lower level', or 'when are we going to get the Sword of Merzekk', etc etc). It wouldn't surprise me if he had rather a lot of correspondence on similar subjects.

Well the Sword of Merzekk would be about the least surprising since we've basically known about that for six years. At least one of the gems has been available for that long. Well two according to the GM, but the first time anyone found a second gem was when Meglasmire was introduced, which was about two or three years after the GM said that only two gems were currently in Sryth. And that was in '04, while Meglasmire came out in /06 or '07.

[billydakid]

I WARNED you people about the Tome lol. It's like the merzerkk sword or however you say it The Gm gave us a taste of it this year like we were finally gonna solve it by getting the tablet together and nothing since.

[thingirl]

Yes, but did the GM actually make an announcement to the effect of "The Sword of Merzekk will be avaliable soon/in [month]/ on [day]" ? He didn't? Oh, well did he do that for the Tome? He did? Well, then, it's not the same :)

[spencer]

I think I am just going to quit fretting over it. I remember waiting a pretty long time for Fogbough to open up and it was well worth the wait. I am sure that the TOA will be as well.

[paladin]

Yes, but did the GM actually make an announcement to the effect of "The Sword of Merzekk will be avaliable soon/in [month]/ on [day]" ? He didn't? Oh, well did he do that for the Tome? He did? Well, then, it's not the same :)

But the GM did also get the flue. We've got that to consider as well.

[texlaw1992]

Still no response. Between the coming subpoena and TG's motion to dismiss in the "Defenestration" thread, my law practice in Sryth is growing by leaps and bounds (lol).

[paladin]

Still no response. Between the coming subpoena and TG's motion to dismiss in the "Defenestration" thread, my law practice in Sryth is growing by leaps and bounds (lol).

Well Marissa's got 180 Adv Tokens and about 20000 gold ready for the Tome. True I don't imagine it'll cost that much, particularly in light of her copper token, but it's there whenever the Tome is.

[Nic]

It will be released on my birthday.

[paladin]

It will be released on my birthday.

Don't jinx it.

[billydakid]

It will be released when it is released. My point don't hold your breath waiting. Texty my guess is since you have received no e mail back from the GM you won't. I know I didn't and I think Elrond didn't received any mail back from our questions on the Pg. When ya get nothing back it either means no changes will be made or in the tomes case he doesn't know when it will be released. So my guess is it will be awhile before the tome is released.

[paladin]

It will be released when it is released. My point don't hold your breath waiting. Texty my guess is since you have received no e mail back from the GM you won't. I know I didn't and I think Elrond didn't received any mail back from our questions on the Pg. When ya get nothing back it either means no changes will be made or in the tomes case he doesn't know when it will be released. So my guess is it will be awhile before the tome is released.

And this time he's not taking any chances and so no new release dates. A few of our accessible game developers have made that mistake in the past and paid dearly for it in terms of public relations.. It's depressing but many blind people can be quite unreasonable in that regard.

[Young Ned]

You know, I don't mind the delays nearly as much as the lack of communication about the delays. If he'd just say something about it being delayed some more, it'd be fine. It's not hearing anything that gets everyone so riled up.

[paladin]

You know, I don't mind the delays nearly as much as the lack of communication about the delays. If he'd just say something about it being delayed some more, it'd be fine. It's not hearing anything that gets everyone so riled up.

Oh I totally agree. Another mistake sometimes made by our audio game developers. Some of them haven't released a new game in almost six years (the company called Bavisoft is an excellent example), and the only thing that even comes close to getting a response from them is to talk of cracking their two available games, which in any case are only available on CD and feature no playable demos, and distributing them for free as abandonware. And they have an Email client that's extremely prone to Spam, meaning that legitimate Emails aren't getting through, usually people who have technical problems or who have placed orders but not received anything. Unfortunately this has led to people questioning whether the company is even legitimate. And their stubborn refusal to answer questions about whether they're working on any new titles or give us even a bit of general info about what type of game it's going to be has only made things worse. Granted I don't necessarily see this situation with the GM but I agree that some communication would reassure those of us who've been waiting since the last announcement about the Tome.

[scout1idf]

The lack of communication could be the result of a flu relapse or he wasn't over it to begin with but got up long enough to give us a little and then fell back into bed.

I sent him an E-Mail on a personal matter that would only take a yes or no answer last Monday or Tuesday. I still haven't received an answer. I titled in a way that he would take notice, so I'm thinking the flu is in control......

[Oldschool]

Never thought about that Scout or the possibility that others in the family may have got it. Hopefully none of the above but it's a possibility.

[paladin]

Never thought about that Scout or the possibility that others in the family may have got it. Hopefully none of the above but it's a possibility.

I've noticed that's how that sort of thing works. One gets it and then the person who was caring for the first one gets it and so on. I just hope it wasn't the Swine Flue (I refuse to say H1N1), or as I also like to call it, the Piggy Pox.

[shadowblack]

3/1/10 - The Tome of Attainment
The Tome of Attainment is beginning its final testing and it is expected that the grand artifact will soon be available for release. Special thanks to all of Sryth's illustrious adventurers for your patience!

The Tome is grand artifact that will usher in a large, new, and ever-expanding chapter (bad pun intended) of adventures.

I will refrain from announcing a firm release date as the Tome (which seems to have its own designs) is quite adept at missing them!

The Tome is on its way and Tallys promises that any adventurer fortunate enough to lay his or her hands upon one will not be disappointed...

[Oldschool]

Hmmm, found this interesting,

"I will refrain from announcing a firm release date as the Tome (which seems to have its own designs) is quite adept at missing them!"

Perhaps the GM does lurk around the forum on occasion. :)

[paladin]

Hmmm, found this interesting,

"I will refrain from announcing a firm release date as the Tome (which seems to have its own designs) is quite adept at missing them!"

Perhaps the GM does lurk around the forum on occasion. :)

At the moment I'm more interested in how much "later this week" the newest PG scenario is going to be.

[texlaw1992]

The GM promised to post about the Tome if I dropped the subpoena.

Looks like he kept his word.

[Young Ned]

Hmmm, found this interesting,

"I will refrain from announcing a firm release date as the Tome (which seems to have its own designs) is quite adept at missing them!"

Perhaps the GM does lurk around the forum on occasion. :)

I'm convinced that he's lurking here a lot more than he used to (which may even be the cause of some of the delays, though I hope not). This is not the first post he's made lately that seems to be in response to forum activity.

The GM promised to post about the Tome if I dropped the subpoena.

Looks like he kept his word.

:mad: You brute. Threatening our beloved GM with legal action over a mere game update? You need to save the big guns for more important things...

Like when you've made a donation to the game but haven't received your ATs yet! ;)

[Elrond]

The GM could be lurking in the forum. Or the announcement could have been influenced by emails from players asking about the reason for the delay.

[Oldschool]

Good point Elrond. However, you wouldn't be trying to distract attention from the GM's possible "foruming" would you? After all, it's possible the GM is active and posting in the forum under a nom de plume. Hmmmmmmm....... ;)

[paladin]

Good point Elrond. However, you wouldn't be trying to distract attention from the GM's possible "foruming" would you? After all, it's possible the GM is active and posting in the forum under a nom de plume. Hmmmmmmm....... ;)

Exactly. I know a lot of you who read this probably won't remember it but I firmly believe it was the GM during the lead-up to the first Runeskin invasion two years ago and we got forum posts from Runeskin.

[Oldschool]

Dare I, dejinxing ritual or not......

While the GM's usually very generous around holiday events (don't know if you can call April 1st a holiday but you get my drift) I can't help but hope that the recent ATs (including the latest Bentlimb "slime award") are fattening our coffers for the Tome.

Of course there may be not be an AT cost for it or if so it may not be on the scale of the Quickstone/Grand Residences. However, if so.....

I wasn't around when the Quickstone went live but he offset the cost of the Grand Residences by fattening our AT stores before they went live. At least it seemed that was the reason.

[billydakid]

You guys need help you keep worrying about that tomb you won't see until next year at the earliest. I'd personally like to get the pg done with and other loose ends before the tomb. keep waiting people keep waiting lol. lets finish pg and runskin and the sword of Mez first.

[paladin]

You guys need help you keep worrying about that tomb you won't see until next year at the earliest. I'd personally like to get the pg done with and other loose ends before the tomb. keep waiting people keep waiting lol. lets finish pg and runskin and the sword of Mez first.

Uhm Billy, the word you're looking for is Tome, not Tomb. As for the Sword of Merzekk, I definitely agree that it's long overdue for a resolution. And the recent events would seem to indicate that we're approaching it. As for the Tome, it'll be out when it's out.

[billydakid]

Amen Paladin I totally agree with you on the Tome. I didn't mean to spell it the other way lol. Tome tome tome. ok it's not a hundred times but you get it.

[Elrond]

Amen Paladin I totally agree with you on the Tome. I didn't mean to spell it the other way lol. Tome tome tome. ok it's not a hundred times but you get it.

Lol ... regardless of the spelling; I just hope the tome doesn't end up in a tomb. It is fair to say that the GM was clear enough in his last reference to the tome that it has a mind of its own. So, it seems like the GM will need a few weeks or months to work out the glitches (mixing that with new content and updates).

[shadowblack]

From the recent Questions for the GM:
The Gamemaster responds: More locations will begin to open up as places to find adventure and places to explore, following the conclusion of Proving Grounds VI (The Alder Throne) and the release of the Tome of Attainment. Port Hallik will be one such place. Speaking of The Alder Throne, some parts of its final scenarios take place in and around that city.

Sounds to me like the release of the Tome has been moved to after the PG is over - and since the PG will most likely take a while longer (at least until the end of the month, in my opinion)...

[Arik]

My guess is that it will be released in June.

[texlaw1992]

I've had my eye on a pair of Platinum Mesh Gloves for a while, but wanted to hold off on the donation until the Tome arrived. I admit it, I caved and donated a bit to get them. C'mon GM, there's more where that came from if you'll just give us the Tome ....

[billydakid]

I told you Texty there is no tome. Even if there was your not getting one anyways. Hmm was susposed to be out Feb 14th got delayed. My guess was next year by the time we get it I'm on pace lol.. See Texty I told ya my friends and I stole all the tomes.

[paladin]

Well a June release for the Tome wouldn't be objectionable to me since then it'll be a thirtieth borthday present LOL. Even if it doesn't come on my borthday itself.

[Almathea]

I really wish I knew what currency will be required for the Tome: ATs, XP, gold, or some combination of all three. Right now I'm sitting on a pile of ATs and general XP just in case I'll need to invest them in the Tome. After all, this could be something like the ice shield, where we'll need to put in XPs for each level... The suspense is killing me!

[thingirl]

Billy stole all of them, so it doesn't matter, remember? ;)

Now, and this is pure speculation, he hasn't told me anything, Billy might sell some of them. He might even take Tally's Copper token. Probably it would cost 64 or 128 ATs and probably 5k or 10k ish gold. He might charge XP to, put probably not.

(OK, fun banter aside, if the Tome comes out, it will probably not have an XP cost. Like I said, probably 64 or 128 ATs with the Token and maybe gold.)

[scout1idf]

The Tome doesn't really exist. It's something to keep us busy while the GM works on other new stuff......

[thingirl]

No, it's real. Billy just stole them all and put an Illusion spell on Tallys to make it look like he didn't.

[billydakid]

lol see Scout understands I've told people that to lol.

[paladin]

lol see Scout understands I've told people that to lol.

Not likely. Marissa's got a Master level in Divination so I think I'd sense that there was illusion magic operating even if I couldn't dispell it. As for the currency I somehow imagine it'll be a combination of gold and ATs to actually buy the thing and then yes, possibly EXP to operate it.

[Dariel]

I don't know if you guys talked about this yet, I only read up to page 20 so far, but... if you didn't get the token from Tallys, do you think there will be another opportunity for some sort of other discount?Maybe an adventure?

[Oldschool]

Well the GM has made the token available more than once - at least twice. Actually iirc three times plus some extensions.

Overly paranoid superstitious AR alert

DEJINXING COMPLETED..... :rolleyes:

Considering the delays (it's been quite a while) he may make it available again especially if someone mentions it <hint, hint> to him.

[Oldschool]

Not meant as a complaint or anything similar but just to lend some perspective to my earlier post. Btw my dejinxing is still in effect....

Spoilered for space.



6/18/09 - Game Updates

The following updates are in the works and are expected to go live (in no particular order) over the next short while...
The Tome of Attainment

Tallys has promised to soon make this mysterious and powerful artifact available...for a price...
8/5/09 - The Latest Updates (http://www.sryth.com/ci.php?f_c=news.inc#1)

The Tome of Attainment
Tallys will soon be offering this grand tome for sale. It is an item that no adventurer will want to be without!



11/8/09 - The Latest Updates

The Tome of Attainment...
Final testing is underway on the Tome of Attainment.

This grand item, certain to become one of the most treasured possessions of all adventurers, is expected to be made avaliable before the end of November.

1/11/10 - The Latest Updates

The Tome of Attainment
Behind the scenes, work has continued on the Tome of Attainment and it is expected that this grand artifact will be available at -- or just before -- the end of January.

A description of the Tome, including an overview of how it will function, will be made available in the next couple of days.

The Tome is a grand item that's in a class by itself. This ancient, arcane text will offer both reward and adventure to those souls bold enough to attempt to learn its secrets.



1/30/10 - The Latest Updates
The Tome of Attainment
The Tome of Attainment will be available starting on February 15th. Be sure to visit Blade Square in Trithik before that date to acquire one of Tallys's Copper Tokens which entitle their bearer to a substantial discount on the Tome!


3/1/10 - The Tome of Attainment
The Tome of Attainment is beginning its final testing and it is expected that the grand artifact will soon be available for release. Special thanks to all of Sryth's illustrious adventurers for your patience!

The Tome is grand artifact that will usher in a large, new, and ever-expanding chapter (bad pun intended) of adventures.

I will refrain from announcing a firm release date as the Tome (which seems to have its own designs) is quite adept at missing them!

The Tome is on its way and Tallys promises that any adventurer fortunate enough to lay his or her hands upon one will not be disappointed...






After realizing just how long and how hard it's been on the GM I'm thinking it will involve a new game mechanic as has been previously speculated.

[smv1973]

After realizing just how long and how hard it's been on the GM I'm thinking it will involve a new game mechanic as has been previously speculated.


I think that may also be another reason he is moving the game to another server.

[thingirl]

Well a near-inexhaustible source of new and rewarding adventure scenarios.
sure sounds like a new game mechanic to me.

[shadowblack]

For some reason that text gave me the idea that in addition to adventures related to Fate choices we'll also get randomly-generated adventures we could embark on, with X new such adventures appearing daily. This way even if you manage to complete all adventures you'll get new ones next day and will stay without anything to do only for a few hours. Does that count as a new game mechanic?

[spencer]

Please just make sure you double un-jinx or whatever it is you do if you don't want to jinx it.

*does a double un-jinx*

[thingirl]

Ahh, good point, Spencer....
http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:0aFHASwG_SRGgM:http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd319/todotmom/no-jinx.gif

:)

@ Shadowblack: I would say that's probably a new mechanic.

[spencer]

It sure does sound like something that you are describing, Shadowblack. I think most of us will be very, very happy to wait and be patient for a mechanic that generates new adventures every day.

[shadowblack]

Just don't be horribly disappointed if it turns out I'm wrong... though I hope I am right, for obvious reasons.

[racey]

For some reason that text gave me the idea that in addition to adventures related to Fate choices we'll also get randomly-generated adventures we could embark on, with X new such adventures appearing daily. This way even if you manage to complete all adventures you'll get new ones next day and will stay without anything to do only for a few hours. Does that count as a new game mechanic?

Sounds a lot like this....

1/19/10 - The Tome of Attainment
The Tome of Attainment, a grand artifact with a value well beyond estimation, is an ancient book long believed to be the product of dark goblin magic.

The Tome is divided into chapters and each chaper is made up of one or more separate parts.

As adventurers progress through their adventures, their accomplishments (and different combinations of their various accomplishments) will unlock chapters within the Tome.

An adventurer in possession of the Tome of Attainment may (from any SAFE location) press his or her hand onto the pages of an unlocked chapter and be instantly transported into the tale.

Completing each of the invdividual stages of a chapter will earn adventurers a reward. Completing a chapter in its entirety will earn another reward. Completing a chapter stage and/or an entire chapter can also unlock new chapters within the Tome.

Adventurers do not need to be in possession of the Tome at the time they complete the adventures/events that will unlock its chapters. The Tome knows what you've done -- for better or worse. Upon acquisition, it will unlock all appropriate chapters for that adventurer, based upon what he or she has accomplished to that point.

There will be a limit to the number of chapter parts that can be completed on a single calendar day -- such is the nature of the mysterious and powerful Tome.

More details soon


doesn't it?

[thingirl]

The human mind is an awesome thing, isn't it? How we can sub-consciously remember stuff, and base a theory or something on it. Nice necrothreading, Racey. Repped.

[Dariel]

Individual stages of a chapter... Sounds a lot like a mini PG to me :D

[billydakid]

Sounds to me like you guys are sucked in again for the tome, that will never come. Oh I pay our GM well to put these tome advertisements out there lol.

[Oldschool]

Double dejinxing dance done....

Nice observation about the new server SMV. Again I'm not up on server knowledge but I would think a new mechanic that involves new or rerun adventures could put more load on a server.

And has no one else noticed Tome = To Me. :rolleyes:

If the server figures in hopefully everything's ready and we're just waiting until the new server goes online.

Is Tally's Copper Token burning a hole in anyone else's pocket?

[Lightwielder]

Is Tally's Copper Token burning a hole in anyone else's pocket?

No, it's made of copper, not fire. You forget, Adventurers seem to have this mysterious backpack that can carry tons of items without becoming full or heavy, so why would we keep that token in our...pocket?

[Dariel]

Regardless of whether the copper coin/token is simply too hot or actually enchanted with fire magic, it's not burning a hole in MY pants. I don't know if I should be happy with that or not. Lol XD

[Oldschool]

:rolleyes: Criminy sakes on the forum and I'm having a "work moment" - lol.

I know my "name" but surely you all jest. Me nor the sayin' ain't that old.

And in case my decrepit feeling chain ain't being yanked it may be time to do some schooling. :cool:;)

http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/have+burning+a+hole+in+pocket

L:)L....

[thingirl]

I knew it was a joke. :) I assumed that Lightwielder knew that too and was just making another joke out of it, so I didn't say anything.

And it's not burning a hole in Alanne's pocket because she keeps it in the pouch with her ATs. It's that preciousssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss. :)

[shadowblack]

The Tome was first announced exactly ONE YEAR ago. You could say today is the Tome's birthday of sorts...

[Oldschool]

Helluva long gestation period.....


PUSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


:rolleyes::cool:

[billydakid]

It's not the tomes birthday. We still don't know if there is a tome? We only hear rumors of one. You guys are so funny. Lets see the tome was susposed to be released feb 14th or was it the 15th. I'm on track for it being released a year from then lol.

[paladin]

It's not the tomes birthday. We still don't know if there is a tome? We only hear rumors of one. You guys are so funny. Lets see the tome was susposed to be released feb 14th or was it the 15th. I'm on track for it being released a year from then lol.

Well with all the other stuff the GM's been working on I'm not entirely surprised. But I've never seen something he's announced that didn't eventually show itself, so as far as I'm concerned there is a Tome, even if it's not available yet.

[billydakid]

Oh don't get me wrong my friend. I'm not saying there isn't one. I'm just saying it could be a few years off lol. look at the sword story. That's been out there for years. Look at the dragon vault we haven't finished that one yet. That one has been over a year. I'm just saying the tome could be a couple of years away the Gm just keeps everyone excited about it with an announcement here and there.

[Oldschool]

One thing's for sure when it comes to content there's definitely no shortage of

http://www.cowboyshowcase.com/images/brands/Irons_in_the_fire.JPG

;)

Just in case this gets lost in "translation". http://www.english-for-students.com/Irons.html

[kaffe]

No need for translation. 100% Texian been on relatives ranches my whole life and done some of that.

[Doolipalally]

Works in the UK too!

[thingirl]

Huh? Must be an age thing. Looking at the link... LOL!

[Oldschool]

DEJINX.....

Speculation based on some observations.......

Considering recent revelations I'm more inclined now to think the ToA will cost ATs since we just got a bonanza via Phak-Rur. Imo the cost will probably not include XP since it looks like we're gonna have to burn about 130k for the Circle of the Wolf.

Still since I've held onto it this long in anticipation x4 I'm content to wait and see.

[texlaw1992]

See my post in the Phak-Rur thread for the GM's latest comments about the TOA - non-committal, but he'll drop it on us out of the blue once it's ready.

[Oldschool]

Considering recent events in Blade Square has anyone visited Tallys at his new building?

If not,

don't as I just did and there's no change. :rolleyes::cool:

Shenanigans aside Tallys's Copper Tokens are actually available.

Tallys is at Trithik Blade Square, handing out Copper Tokens again. Thank you GM :D



Note: This post underwent DEJINXING prior to production.

[Scarbrow]

Right now Tallys has gone again and Blade Square is back to normal. Don't know when he returned to his post, though...

[Badstench]

The screaming silence from the GM concerning anything to do with the Tome of Attainment leads me to a bit of wild conjecturing.

I'm wondering if the GM hasn't decided against the tome... about the time it was meant to be released, a number of unheralded 'mini-adventures' appeared - 3 or 4 of them. In my cynicism, I wondered if these weren't originally tasks plucked from the tome.

[spencer]

The screaming silence from the GM concerning anything to do with the Tome of Attainment leads me to a bit of wild conjecturing.

I'm wondering if the GM hasn't decided against the tome... about the time it was meant to be released, a number of unheralded 'mini-adventures' appeared - 3 or 4 of them. In my cynicism, I wondered if these weren't originally tasks plucked from the tome.


I don't think that's the case; the last communication regarding the tome, I believe, was in an email to texlaw, after he made a joke about the the name of the Phak-Ra's sister city :) Iirc, at the time, the GM intimated that the tome was still coming, but he was not going to make any more announcements about the timeframe.

[paladin]

I don't think that's the case; the last communication regarding the tome, I believe, was in an email to texlaw, after he made a joke about the the name of the Phak-Ra's sister city :) Iirc, at the time, the GM intimated that the tome was still coming, but he was not going to make any more announcements about the timeframe.

Sound thinking if you ask me, since if you make a date then for whatever reason can'tmeet that self-imposed deadline there's bound to be some people who'll be after your blood and would hound you endlessly over it. That happens quite frequently in the blind gaming community if a developer makes the mistake of announcing even a tentative release date. If he or she fails to meet that date, even if he/she has a legitimate reason, there's a disturbing number of blind folks who'll give the poor guy or girl no peace over it. Needless to say I have almost no respect at all for my fellow blind folks. So I can totally understand the GM's reluctance to announce anymore dates and am glad more of those blind complainers haven't made it over to Sryth. And a lot of these complainers are the sort of people who'll also jump right into the game without eve bothering to read at least the basics in the documentation, then get frustrated when they get killed.

[texlaw1992]

See my post #453 on this very page, referencing the GM's response to my email about Phak-Rur. He'll drop the TOA on us out of the blue, so perhaps in this case no news is good news ...

Edit: Full email at post #112 in Phak-Rur thread in case anyone missed it.

[billydakid]

Nov just around the corner. It will be 9 months and counting since I said the TOA wouldn't be released until at least a year from when orginally the day it was susposed to be released. I just have one question doesn't it make you ask why the TOA hasn't been released? I mean it was susposed to be released on feb 14th of this year. Our GM got the flu where he said it would be delayed a couple of weeks. That's very understandable. However it's been almost a year. You have to wonder how close the TOA was to actually being released.

[Zedalion]

Nov just around the corner. It will be 9 months and counting since I said the TOA wouldn't be released until at least a year from when orginally the day it was susposed to be released. I just have one question doesn't it make you ask why the TOA hasn't been released? I mean it was susposed to be released on feb 14th of this year. Our GM got the flu where he said it would be delayed a couple of weeks. That's very understandable. However it's been almost a year. You have to wonder how close the TOA was to actually being released.

I have been assuming some massive problem with coding the thing was encountered.

I'd love to see it come out, but personally I'm not holding my breath.

[billydakid]

Agreed. I gave up on it a long time ago. See and TextLaw didn't believe I stole them all lol.

[paladin]

Agreed. I gave up on it a long time ago. See and TextLaw didn't believe I stole them all lol.

If that's the case then the GM had probably better remove the in-game text referring to it, including the copper token and the creeping wood.

[Zedalion]

If that's the case then the GM had probably better remove the in-game text referring to it, including the copper token and the creeping wood.

Oh, I don't know, there are a ton of loose end things referenced in the game that have shown no real sign of being tied up. Familiar keeper, mount disposition, the creepy presence below the residences, Doomwall...the list goes on and on. I don't think some in-game text relating to the ToA is particularly more problematic.

[paladin]

Oh, I don't know, there are a ton of loose end things referenced in the game that have shown no real sign of being tied up. Familiar keeper, mount disposition, the creepy presence below the residences, Doomwall...the list goes on and on. I don't think some in-game text relating to the ToA is particularly more problematic.

THe copper tokens might be since they're not droppable. Me, I'll hold onto mine just in case we're wrong and the tome is still in the works, even if slowly. Although I do agree the GM should spend more time tying up more of these loose ends instead of adding all-new content. If there's one thing about Sryth that I might complain about it's the GM's tendency to create story arcs and then leave them hanging, sometimes for years at a stretch.

[billydakid]

Yeah like the dragon vault. Then it looked like this summer we'd finally finish the sword of M and now it seems that's been forgotten again. All I'm saying is I'm not gonna hold on to adv tokens waiting for the tome when and if it comes out I'll donate and get some more tokens it can't be that expensive with the special token.

[paladin]

Yeah like the dragon vault. Then it looked like this summer we'd finally finish the sword of M and now it seems that's been forgotten again. All I'm saying is I'm not gonna hold on to adv tokens waiting for the tome when and if it comes out I'll donate and get some more tokens it can't be that expensive with the special token.

I probably will hold onto them even if for no other reason than there's nothing I feel like I absolutely HAVE to have from Tallys'. I've gotten all the gear I wanted so far and while I will occasionally trade in Tokens for EXP I don't like to do that often.

[mahansolo]

Didn't get a chance to read through all the threads, but I'm under the impression that the Tome is tied to the 'fateful decisions' we've all been asked to make throughout the game and possible new adventures based on said decisions.

I suddenly find myself filled with remorse for killing that ogre in a Southfoot quest [Killing Hand?] to sate my thirst for AT's. I wonder, 'Will the Tome will reflect adversely upon my potentially ill-advised "fateful decision?"' I'm certain I've erased the chance at a future adventure where Mr. Ogre and I become friends and drive the thugs out of Gaddurungs End in true swashbuckling style -much to the delight of saucy barmaids and and swooning Thanes' daughters throughout the kingdom. I'm sorry I killed you Mr. Ogre. In the immortal words of Sly Stallone (to a deceased Burgess Meredith) we had more to do. We had more to do.

Thank you, thank you. I'm here all week. Don't forget to tip your bartenders. In fact, tonight, reps are on the house!

Whoops! Time for my meds! :D

[demojan777]

There are some who are refusing to do anything that has a Hand of Fate decision because it may have some negative impact once the Tome of Attainment arrives (if it does). I find this counterintuitive at best because of the actual words that appear whenever there is a Hand of Fate decision:

Suddenly...a strange feeling comes over you... Inexplicably, you feel as if in some small way your destiny is directly linked to the choice you are about to make. It is a fleeting and somewhat unsettling sensation, but it swiftly passes before you can give it a second thought.

The above message indicates a marked choice -- it's a choice that your character is about to make that will in some way somehow affect him or her at some point in the future.

It should be noted when making these marked choices that there are not any correct or incorrect selections. Each marked choice your character makes will have an effect on his or her fate somewhere along the line.

The selections you make when faced with marked choices won't negatively affect your character in any way, though your selections are likely to impact your character moving forward, often in unexpected ways.

The bolded words are the ones that I want to emphasize here; I sincerely doubt that the GM would tell us it is OK to use our own judgment without having our choice causing us to have a mechanical disadvantage in this game and then completely flip that around on us out of the blue.

From this, it is my opinion that refusing to participate in anything that has a Hand of Fate choice until the Tome of Attainment comes out will only limit your enjoyment of the game, since there's no knowing when it will come out or even if it will come out, but past experience has shown that many Hand of Fate choices have been released since the Tome was announced and many more will probably be released before it comes to be.

Just my two cents.

[billydakid]

Demo I couldn't have put it better myself.

[Young Ned]

1/3/12 - Happy New Year!

A Happy New Year to all of Sryth's Brave Adventurers! Here are some of the things on the Gamemaster's slate that are expected for 2012...

...

A Certain Tome...
On perhaps its third full revision, and destined to appear sometime in 2012, is the Tome of Attainment, a grand item long delayed, but not forgotten. The Tome is a wondrous artifact that rewards adventurers for their various accomplishments by unlocking special bonuses, rewards, and scenarios.

Its third full revision? No wonder it's taken so long to come out!

Glad to hear it hasn't been forgotten. Good news indeed. :cool:

[texlaw1992]

This one has Tallys' autograph, otherwise it's just the old edition with a new cover (lol).

[Oldschool]

Maybe he just forgot to cross all those T's.....

Besides we've already got a Tome of Forgotten Lore.....

Ba da b:rolleyes::rolleyes:m...... ;)

In spite of the groans please Vote for Sryth - thanks.

[paladin]

Funny that that should show up in the news. I say that because I wrote the GM about a week ago asking if that copper token Tallys gave Marissa was doomed to rattle around her inventory for eternity. Guess this was my reply since he never got back to me privately. Personally though I'm going to take the sometime in 2012 statement with an entire shaker rather than just a grain of salt. In short I'll believe it when I see it. That he'll deliver at some point I don't doubt, but like a certain Lion our GM seems to call all times soon.

[Doolipalally]

like a certain Lion our GM seems to call all times soon.

Intriguing reference which I don't get. Could you enlighten me?

[Young Ned]

All I can think of is Aslan, but I don't recall anything in particular about his use of "soon". The only catchphrase I can think of with Aslan is "He's not a tame lion..."

[Oldschool]

I was wondering the same thing and since both you didn't know it I got really curious.

Anyhoo a "Google rules" is in order...

http://www.quotesstar.com/quotes/p/please-aslan-said-lucy-234826.html

Well it has been a long time... :rolleyes:

And while we're on the subject just noticed your new sig Paladin and another shout out to Google for helping figure it out. I thought it looked familiar.

[Doolipalally]

Thanks, Oldschool - I didn't have time to Google at the time :o

And I also like Paladin's signature, though there are places where it might be wise not to pronounce it aloud... :)

[paladin]

Yup. As for the Lion reference that comes from Voyage of the Dawn Treader. Lucy asked Aslan what he called soon after he said they would meet again soon. I believe it was when they were visiting Koriokin's house. As for the signature I'm actually rereading the trilogy at the moment so I thought I would have a LOTR signature.

[spencer]

I speculate that there will be much rejoicing when it does arrive. I, for one, will be doing cartwheels (in my head, at least).

[paladin]

And there was much rejoycing. (lackluster yay).

[Blackcrowe]

I feel the Power of Divination coursing through my veins once again. Looking into the future I can dimly make out the shape of the Tome of Attainment. It's not that near that I can see it arriving anytime in the next few months, but its definitely on its way. I have a feeling that on top of its other effects the ToA will be used as the mechanism through which skills and powers can be raised beyond 100.

(I also see a small dog in a cape playing a banjo and singing a song about herrings though, so don't hold your breath while you're waiting for me to be proved right.:p)

[Badstench]

Spencer proclaimed...
I speculate that there will be much rejoicing when it does arrive. I, for one, will be doing cartwheels (in my head, at least).
You must be confusing the ToA with the ToE (Tome of Entertainment).

[texlaw1992]

Let's not let Billy steal all these tomes as well (lol).

[paladin]

I feel the Power of Divination coursing through my veins once again. Looking into the future I can dimly make out the shape of the Tome of Attainment. It's not that near that I can see it arriving anytime in the next few months, but its definitely on its way. I have a feeling that on top of its other effects the ToA will be used as the mechanism through which skills and powers can be raised beyond 100.

(I also see a small dog in a cape playing a banjo and singing a song about herrings though, so don't hold your breath while you're waiting for me to be proved right.:p)

Just as long as we're not expected to use a herring to cut down a tree.

[Oldschool]

LOL Paladin what's wrong a shrubbery isn't good enough. :)

[paladin]

A shrubbery would be fine. I'd even be willing to find a second and place it beside the first, only slightly higher so you get a two-level effect with a little path running down the middle. But if I'm asked to cut down a tree with a herring, whether it's the mightiest tree in the forest or not, or not, I'llhave to politely refuse seeing as it can't be done.

[Oldschool]

IT can't be done you say? :)

Wonder if that Herring would confer a bonus versus Dhormuk and Oakaruk. ;)

For the uninitiated, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTQfGd3G6dg

[Young Ned]

I was wondering the same thing and since both you didn't know it I got really curious.

Anyhoo a "Google rules" is in order...

http://www.quotesstar.com/quotes/p/please-aslan-said-lucy-234826.html

Well it has been a long time... :rolleyes:
Ha, it was Aslan! It sounded like the sort of thing he might say, I just couldn't recall him saying it. Guess I need to reread Dawn Treader one of these days.

And yes, Google rules!

[texlaw1992]

Just get an imbued axe, name it "herring," and voila!

[spencer]

I feel the Power of Divination coursing through my veins once again. Looking into the future I can dimly make out the shape of the Tome of Attainment. It's not that near that I can see it arriving anytime in the next few months, but its definitely on its way. I have a feeling that on top of its other effects the ToA will be used as the mechanism through which skills and powers can be raised beyond 100.

(I also see a small dog in a cape playing a banjo and singing a song about herrings though, so don't hold your breath while you're waiting for me to be proved right.:p)

Great minds think alike.

Spencer's great mind (http://www.srythforum.com/showpost.php?p=5256&postcount=2)

[Scarbrow]

Do you think that at page 50 of this thread, a recommendation of not-derailing would be appropriate? :p

[scout1idf]

Do you think that at page 50 of this thread, a recommendation of not-derailing would be appropriate? :p

I think it's a bit too late for that.... ;)

[Oldschool]

Well one could argue that the threads derailment mirrors the ToA's. ;)

Tome of Attainment Derailment....... :cool:

And if you adjust your page length it'll only be 13 pages long - much more manageable. :cool: ;)

However, once we get something more concrete considering the volume of this thread and the off topic banter a serious and separate discussion thread is probably in order.