Kyul-Thanor...Shadowedge

[Plezier]

When battling Undead in the BHC and in tombs, crypts and the Forrest. Sometimes I have been rewarded with Wood and in one case Bone Icons. Now I brought some Imbuable items like a breastplate, sword and dagger but in all honesty I cannot see tha advantage in them.

I brought them as I thought it might help me unlock more things to do in Shadowedge but so far it has not :confused:

And more confusing is the fact that despite it obviously being a re-playable area so far I have not noticed it mentioned anywhere on the forums.

If there is a thread for it then I'll say sorry for opening up a new one now! :o

[thingirl]

Good catch! I think we all forget about this one. And Doomwall is a loose end, so there's nothing else in Kyul-Thanor. On another note, I got my first bone icon a few days ago :)

[zmflavius]

Icons are not actually very good for much except training arcana (correct me if I'm wrong).

[thingirl]

Nope, youre right. Now, if only Ezrokk were here.

[MrBlack]

Me thinks you can get a 18 Sp and 6 Mr plate breast plate with 3 bone icons of champion sprit.

[smv1973]

Me thinks you can get a 18 Sp and 6 Mr plate breast plate with 3 bone icons of champion sprit.

Does anyone have 3 bone icons of champion sprit? I have not even seen one of them as of yet.

[Oldschool]

I and others I'm guessing hope that icons are "underdeveloped" as there is mucho potential in Kyul-Thanor alone - improving the icons and imbuable items would be a nice extra. For a quick imbuable item icon improvement :cool: I still say we should be able to buy all armour items not just torso armour - especially belts.

Regarding Ezerok's mention in this thread I'm reminded of the GM's response to Hawk's question of those choosing to serve both Ezerok and Palk and those that held fast to Palk's principles.

Question (paraphrased from the wiki):

I’m curious about any ramifications for those that chose to serve Ezerok that are also Disciples of Palk. Moreover, could the refuters of Ezerok expect a similar reward from Palk for remaining steadfast or since Palk is ‘The Wrath of The All-Father’, could Ezerok’s minions expect a lesson of said wrath?”

Answer:

An interesting point. Palk is not likely to approve of anyone who chooses to serve Ezerok. And Palk has the tendency, as you can well imagine, to become angry over such things -- very angry! Palk will certainly take into consideration rewards for his steadfast followers.

[smv1973]

I and others I'm guessing hope that icons are "underdeveloped" as there is mucho potential in Kyul-Thanor alone - improving the icons and imbuable items would be a nice extra. For a quick imbuable item icon improvement :cool: I still say we should be able to buy all armour items not just torso armour especially belts.

Regarding Ezerok's mention in this thread I'm reminded of the GM's response to Hawk's question of those choosing to serve both Ezerok and Palk and those that held fast to Palk's principles.

Question (paraphrased from the wiki):

I’m curious about any ramifications for those that chose to serve Ezerok that are also Disciples of Palk. Moreover, could the refuters of Ezerok expect a similar reward from Palk for remaining steadfast or since Palk is ‘The Wrath of The All-Father’, could Ezerok’s minions expect a lesson of said wrath?”

Answer:

An interesting point. Palk is not likely to approve of anyone who chooses to serve Ezerok. And Palk has the tendency, as you can well imagine, to become angry over such things -- very angry! Palk will certainly take into consideration rewards for his steadfast followers.

The GM also did make a mention that the people serve Ezerok may have the chance to get back on Palk's good side.

[Oldschool]

Correct also on a previous month's questions Nov/Dec 08 I think someone (again I think it was Mattman) asked if those that chose to serve would get a chance to betray him. Can't recall verbatim but the short answer was that it may be possible.

Hard to pin the GM down. :)

[smv1973]

Correct also on a previous month's questions Nov/Dec 08 I think someone (again I think it was Mattman) asked if those that chose to serve would get a chance to betray him. Can't recall verbatim but the short answer was that it may be possible.

Hard to pin the GM down. :)

I think it was Shadowblack that asked the question. I think he said he only made the choice to serve just because of the exp but never really wanted to be a servent of Ezerok.

[Plezier]

Hmmm well as I never encountered Ezerok I know nothing about "him" however I did become Plaks chosen one it seems hence the Icons that keep appearing in my inventory. So far I have obtained:-

Wood Icon Of The Troll

Wood Icon Of The Dancing Rogue x 2

Wood Icon Of Phantasmal Wrath

Wood Icon Of Legendary Agility

Wood Icon Of Heroic Ability x 2

Wood Icon Of Enhanced Mind

Wood Icon Of Demonfire

Bone Icon Of Impossible Luck

Pluse these which I attached to the Longsword:-

Affixed Nevernal Icons:
* Wood Icon of Entangling Vines

* Wood Icon of Heroic Ability
Agility +1, Body +1, Mind +1, Might +1, Spirit +1


It seems that I really need more Bone icons and one that give MR and SP boost would be most welcome ;)

[thingirl]

I and others I'm guessing hope that icons are "underdeveloped" as there is mucho potential in Kyul-Thanor alone - improving the icons and imbuable items would be a nice extra. For a quick imbuable item icon improvement :cool: I still say we should be able to buy all armour items not just torso armour especially belts.

Me too! and I would buy an imbuable belt, especially if I could affix +MR Icons to it. Although none of my Icons are +MR, and most of them are have powers.

@ Plizer: That's prety good :)

[Joddelle]

Me thinks you can get a 18 Sp and 6 Mr plate breast plate with 3 bone icons of champion sprit.

I have 2,500 icons and not one of them is a bone icon of champion sprit. Bone/Iron Icons are ridiculously scarce.

[Plezier]

I have 2,500 icons and not one of them is a bone icon of champion sprit. Bone/Iron Icons are ridiculously scarce.

2,500 of them :eek: :eek: :eek:

It would seem that my luck with the Icons is better than it is in other parts of the Game seeing as how I did get a Bone icon :D

[thingirl]

I have the same bone Icon as you, Plizer. And Joddelle, 2,500!?!?!?:eek::eek::eek::confused:

[Plezier]

Well it figures with mine as it boosts luck which is already at 20 and if I strip all armour, rings etc my basic Luck rating is if I remember correctly 18. It was body that was low at 17 I think. Did really well with the initial set up ............. Hmm or was that Eldrich :confused: Hmmmm no I really think about it I cannot recall who has what basic stat wise and I have not played Eldrich for quite some time now :o.

[thingirl]

Dad didn't play any of his for 2 months. I ran them throught SHC. And, I, also am guilty of neglecting Reha.

[Young Ned]

SHC? I'm having trouble with that acronym, sorry...

[zmflavius]

Stone Hurl Challenge.

[Young Ned]

Thank you! :cool:

[thingirl]

Hay, at least I typed what I ment.

[Malicemancer]

Has anyone found a pattern to getting them, or are they just random?

[Elrond]

Has anyone found a pattern to getting them, or are they just random?

They are simply "painstakingly" random!

[Malicemancer]

I've gotten a Wood Icon of Deadly Flame- it adds a special flame attack to a weapon (go figure), much like the Demonscourge's lightning tines special.

[Malicemancer]

They are simply "painstakingly" random!

Ah.

[Oldschool]

As Elrond states, painstakingly random. Now that I think about it their appearance rate seems to have dropped from before. Of course that could just be my random luck or lack thereof.

However I've noticed as others have that they seem to appear in spurts or clusters. You'll get a few to several over a relatively short period then nothing for a considerable length of time.

[Taleria]

No. I think the frequency has dropped considerably. It used to be far more regular when I did more grinding with Taleria. It used to be so common that I wasn't excited anymore when I got one, and now I honestly long to hear that rumble of thunder.

[smv1973]

As Elrond states, painstakingly random. Now that I think about it their appearance rate seems to have dropped from before. Of course that could just be my random luck or lack thereof.

However I've noticed as others have that they seem to appear in spurts or clusters. You'll get a few to several over a relatively short period then nothing for a considerable length of time.

I get at least one icon drop just about everyday.

[scout1idf]

I get at least one icon drop just about everyday.
As much time as you spend playing, Scout won't see an Icon any sooner than once a month. Maybe!


** Walks away muttering to himself, "I wish I could get back into grinding....."**:(

[texlaw1992]

I usually get one every two-three runs through the BHC. I bought the imbuablde longsword and imbuable breastblate, but I'm in no rush to install anything.

[Meduwyn]

The other day Lili Silvat got her first Iron icon :

Iron Icon Of Biting Frost (Use)


* Class: Icon, Iron
* Usable With: Weapons
* Encumbrance: 0
* Power: Biting Frost


This small, square, glowing icon, is crafted out of solid iron. It's obvious that this strange object is not of this world.
The likeness of an icy wind is etched onto its surface

Anyone else have this one? I notice people mostly discuss Wood and Bone icons exclusively. Lili has a treasure chest full of wooden icons, only a handful of bone icons and just the one iron (didn't even know they existed lol).

[Doolipalally]

That's interesting. Rhia has loads of wooden ones and quite a few iron, but only got her first ever bone icon the other week.

[Snake]

These are my only ones ---------------

Wood Icon of Phantasmal Wrath (2) --magical power
Wood Icon of Deadly Flame -- magical power
Wood Icon of Obliteration -- magical power

Wood Icon of Enhanced Aura (2) -- Aura +1
Wood Icon of Enhanced Might -- Might: +1
Wood Icon of Heroic Ability -- Agility +1, Body +1, Mind +1, Might +1, Spirit +1

Bone Icon of Deadly Flame --magical power

:)

[scout1idf]

|-Scout's Icons
-20|- Wood Icon of Phantasmal Wrath
-14|- Wood Icon of Enhanced Might
-11|- Wood Icon of Legendary Might
-13|- Wood Icon of Heroic Ability
-9|- Wood Icon of Entangling Vines
-9|- Wood Icon of Demonfire
-12|- Wood Icon of Deadly Flame
-14|- Wood Icon of Biting Frost
-17 |- Wood Icon of Enhanced Aura
-8|- Wood Icon of The Dancing Rogue
-9|- Wood Icon of Venom
-11|- Wood Icon of Obliteration
-16|- Wood Icon of Entangling Vines
-4|- Wood Icon of Legendary Agility
-14|- Wood Icon of Enhanced Mind
-10|- Wood Icon of The Troll
-6 |- Wood Icon of Legendary Body
-2|- Iron Icon of Entangling Vines
-1 |- Iron Icon of The Leaping Rogue

[Snake]

WOW If anyone can provide any feedback about where the best spot is to find icons at please let me and others know. I know they are rare and random but lets try to narrow down the most likely spot to find them.

[scout1idf]

WOW If anyone can provide any feedback about where the best spot is to find icons at please let me and others know. I know they are rare and random but lets try to narrow down the most likely spot to find them.

Actually, any regular combat spot (grinders). I don't think the one time only or PG's are tied to the icons. Lately though, I've been getting one almost every time I run Yir-Tannon. I seem to get a Battle Marker there every time I get an Icon as well.

[Doolipalally]

WOW If anyone can provide any feedback about where the best spot is to find icons at please let me and others know. I know they are rare and random but lets try to narrow down the most likely spot to find them.

Um, think about the meaning of 'random' here: if you admit they're random, you're actually saying that there is no 'most likely spot' :)

(Also, bear in mind that the way the game stands at the moment they're not really worth anything. There are better weapons and armour available than anything you can create using these icons, so their only real value is the 16xp to Arcana you get from identifying them. I tend to see them as an idea the GM had a while back that then got superseded by later ideas.)

[thingirl]

Ahh, Dooli about the meaning of random Oh, wait, I know better than to get in an arguement over words with most anyone on here. :)

I actually got an Icon from Xarakk the other day. I didn't know you could get them from MPs.

[Snake]

good to know. now i'm off to play the replayables and the mps and try to wn some icons.

[Badstench]

There is no "ideal" icon finding spot. There is an equal chance of finding one from any combat situation anywhere anytime anyhoo.

I remember Hvoc once reported how many icons he had accumulated... they numbered in the many hundreds.

Here are mine:

Wood Icon Of Venom x 19
Wood Icon Of The Troll x 20
Wood Icon Of The Dancing Rogue x 24
Wood Icon Of Phantasmal Wrath x 16
Wood Icon Of Obliteration x 12
Wood Icon Of Legendary Might x 18
Wood Icon Of Legendary Body x 24
Wood Icon Of Legendary Agility x 24
Wood Icon Of Heroic Ability x 11
Wood Icon Of Entangling Vines x 34
Wood Icon Of Enhanced Mind x 22
Wood Icon Of Enhanced Might x 22
Wood Icon Of Enhanced Aura x 21
Wood Icon Of Demonfire x 24
Wood Icon Of Deadly Flame x 13
Wood Icon Of Biting Frost x 19

Iron Icon Of The Troll x 2
Iron Icon Of The Princely Rogue
Iron Icon Of The Mind's Eye
Iron Icon Of The Leaping Rogue x 2
Iron Icon Of Legendary Agility

Bone Icon Of Solitude
Bone Icon Of Shadow Might
Bone Icon Of Shadow Fortitude
Bone Icon Of Concentration

[Oldschool]

I remember reading in an old Questions that the GM was going to expand Kyul-Thanor and icons "soon". Guessing he got sidetracked since. Iirc Merzaryl was mentioned as a possible icon buyer/trader.

[shadowblack]

Actually, he said that it would get expanded after Saargard and Fogbough, so...

EDIT: From the Questions for the GM, a couple of answers the GM has given in regards to Kyul-Thanor and Icons:
Paladin the Almighty seems to not be satisfied with Tally's best shield and wants to get his hand on Doomwall. Will he see the two other pieces anytime soon? What did he bring as an offering, you ask? Well, he does not quite understand that you are an oracle not a gift-giver - he brought Tally's shield hoping you would give him the other two pieces of Doomwall...I just do not understand how he got the moniker of Almighty...ooowww...do not hit me Paladin...

Answer: The quest to complete Doomwall will arrive, along with the remainder of what has been planned for the realm of Kyul-Thanor, though that won't occur until Saarngard Isle has arrived and is well underway.


Dark is inquiring about icons, "I remember when the adventurer's guild first started, one of the most interesting new features was the introduction of nevernal icons which could be attached to weapons and armour to boost stats or give special attacks. I really liked this aspect of the game, it added some interesting possibilities for specialization…. imbuable equipment is so much less in MR and SP than the weapons and armour available in the rest of the game. Could you please consider adding additional uses for icons into the game, perhaps as items to be used in combat, tradable goods, or some other use?" And Shadowblack slips through with, "Is the GM planning to add another way to obtain Icons (for example Icons can be rewards for completing adventures)?"

A: Yes, the icons have been sorely neglected! There will be a way to trade in unneeded Icons to Mezaryl, who seems to have some sort of mysterious use for them. I will also look at adding new icons, as well as the ability to acquire special/unique/more powerful ones in adventures related to Kyul-Thanor, once work on expansions for that realm resumes.

[Oldschool]

Thanks Shadowblack. Considering both those seem to be in the hopper things look a bit more promising.

[Oldschool]

MOD EDIT: Moved this and several other subsequent posts re: Icons from PG VI/Gallowtop thread.

@ Andras. What do you mean by Icons increasing MR? If you mean Icons as in those awarded randomly in battle you can only attach them to imbuable items from Kyul-Thanor.

[Andras]

Yeah, those Icons. I would like to make an imbue-able breastplate.

So far, no luck with Icons. I managed to get 6 icons but no good ones.

[Doolipalally]

The general wisdom is that the imbuable icons are a bit of a game dead-end - something the GM dreamed up which got overtaken by events. I don't know of anyone who actually uses an imbuable item. There's much better gear in the game.

Anyone out there know different?

[Andras]

If I can get some of the SP and MR Icons, I'll be able to use a decent Torso armor while keeping my AT for other things. If I can pull off getting those Icons (I do realize how long it will be to get those...), it should be a pretty good armor.

With the right icons, you can get...

18 SP and 6 MR to 6 SP and 12 MR. My goal is 14 SP and 8 MR.




12 MR is higher than the most expensive Tally gear, and 14 SP with 8 MR is better than Skull-Studded Jerkin at 216 AT.

So if I can manage to get lucky and get the Imbued Breastplate I want, I will have a great armor. If I only get one of the Icons I want, it isn't a bad armor.
Problem is getting it.

[zmflavius]

Slight problem. For 6Mr/18SP, you need 3 bone icons of champion spirit. Bone icons in themselves are incredibly rare and champion spirit are extremely rare.

However, for 8 MR and 14 SP, what combination do you plan to use? It might be easier to get.

[thingirl]

IMO, Icons are NOT the way to go. To get anything useful, you have to get EXTREMELY lucky and play a LOT! The only reasonably attainable use I can see for imbuable stuff is using a cool named weapon in a MP.

Personally, I wouldn't start PG VI until you get the Ice Shield. Because then not only will you get one of, if not the, best free shield in the game, but also you will get those ATs back to use on other stuff.

[Andras]

Not much easier.

Bone Icon Of Champion Spirit x 2
Bone Icon Of Blood Wrath


Of course, that is a final goal, not a realistic one. I am hoping that, as I work on getting skills and powers maxed, I'll get the icons I need... and hoping on getting one sooner so I can use that armor for MR heh.

[smv1973]

I have been playing for over 2 years and have not gotten either bone icon that you posted.

[thingirl]

I would also focus on getting Slashing up to 90. And if you haven't used the trainer in the Moonshore crossroads (Thaoni ?), get it to 95 and you can use her to train your Slashing, for free, up to level 100. (Save before doing this, because IIRC, it needs random rolls.)

Also, if you're MR concerned, wield your SSx (you're wielding Hale right now). If you don't have a SS weapon Take the weapon you get from Prince Iakor and let Meyzaril in Blade Square take a look at it. You can also dip it in the fountain in Tarn for an extra 2(?) MR.

Don't forget that there are several MR boosts in Tarn and 7 Goblins.

[Doolipalally]

I've also been playing for more than two years now, and during that time I've picked up only one bone icon - and it's neither of the ones you want.

[shadowblack]

Bone Icon Of Champion Spirit x 2
Bone Icon Of Blood Wrath
I have been playing for over 2 years and have not gotten either bone icon that you posted.
Me either. To think you got two copies of (probably) the best Bone Icon... you sure are lucky, Andras.

[Andras]

Unfortunately, I don't have it. I wish I did heh.

Actually, I want to complete it because I want to see what happens afterwards (it is mentioned that the return adventures are coming out soon). Andras is my second character so I know a little of what happens and am very curious to see what happens as at the end.

[scout1idf]

Not much easier.

Bone Icon Of Champion Spirit x 2
Bone Icon Of Blood Wrath


Of course, that is a final goal, not a realistic one. I am hoping that, as I work on getting skills and powers maxed, I'll get the icons I need... and hoping on getting one sooner so I can use that armor for MR heh.

Unfortunately, I don't have it. I wish I did heh.


I think you left the impression that you had those icons.
If I understand you, you wish you had those icons.

Is that correct?

[zmflavius]

Out of curiosity, has anyone here seen a bone icon of champion spirit?

[scout1idf]

Out of curiosity, has anyone here seen a bone icon of champion spirit?
The Bone Icon of Legendary Body is the only bone icon Scout has.

[shadowblack]

Speaking of Icons today I got my first Bone Icon in months - Bone Icon Of The Fox (first such Icon I see). I've updated its wiki page (the description was missing).

[racey]

Out of curiosity, has anyone here seen a bone icon of champion spirit?

I have one...

Bone Icon Of Champion Spirit (Use)

* Class: Icon, Bone
* Encumbrance: 0
* Melee Rating: +2
* Stamina Points: +4
* Spirit: +4

This small, square, glowing icon, is crafted out of solid bone. It's obvious that this strange object is not of this world.
The likeness of an armoured warrior is etched onto its surface.

You may affix this Nevernal Icon to any imbuable item you may possess, to enhance the attributes of that item. Click the ITEMS button to view your inventory and then USE the desired Imbuable item.

[Young Ned]

I've been playing for two years now, but I don't play as much as other folks here, so I have relatively few icons. My first character, Ned, has several Wooden icons, but only one Iron one and no Bones, and neither Storel nor Kermit has anything but Wooden ones.

[spencer]

I have the bone icon of legendary body and the bone icon of the troll

[Oldschool]

I have one...



Trent probably got it from one of his MANY trysts with a certain ghostly gal.

;)

[kzero]

Just noticed that in the quest to save Ban-Drir, the optional battle in the cave (location 2 on the wiki page) will always yield an icon, although I tried about 15 times and always got a Wood icon. I've updated the wiki page with my finding. I doubt if it drops other icon types, but maybe someone wants to continue trying.

[Young Ned]

Good to know, kzero; thanks for spotting it!

[Snake]

Well I went to Sword Island to see if I could attempt to get my second BOG.

MUch to my surprise when I got this battling one of the tar men outside of the tomb.

The distant rumble of thunder reaches your ears...
A strange item (Wood Icon) has appeared amongst your possessions....

Its a Wood Icon of Heroic Ability.
Now I have:

Icons (12) (2) Wood Icon of Phantasmal Wrath
(2) Wood Icon of Enhanced Aura
(1) Wood Icon of Enhanced Might
(1) Wood Icon of Obliteration
(1) Wood Icon of Deadly Flame
(1) Wood Icon of Legendary Body
(1) Wood Icon of Entangling Vines
(1) Wood Icon of Legendary Agility
(1) Wood Icon of Enhanced Mind
(2) Wood Icon of Heroic Ability
(1) Wood Icon of Biting Frost
(1) Bone Icon of Deadly Flame

[Doolipalally]

Yep, icons can show up after any fight. Pity they're not much use!

[Snake]

Yep, icons can show up after any fight. Pity they're not much use!


yep but they are rare to get. Hopefully, the GM will put some form of shop in the game as to where you can buy and sell icons for either gold or Adventure tokens.

[Oldschool]

15 total icons and one of them bone - wow. :eek:

[Snake]

15 total icons and one of them bone - wow. :eek:

Yep and I got the bone icon as my 3rd one.