tournament of arms

[taproot97]

wat is the mr and sp reqiered

[Doolipalally]

Full details are available on the wiki page (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Quest:The_Thane%27s_Tournament_of_Arms). Looks like you should be able to manage it.

[thingirl]

The Hale Blade is good, but remember that it's not too good. Although, you're non AG, so, the HB and Creyn Blade are good weapons.

[Doolipalally]

All my characters used the Hale Blade until they got the SSL.

[Havoc]

I still use the Hale Blade for all of my grinding. It really helps speed up things when I don't have to stop and heal quite as often.

[thingirl]

I forgot one my rules: don't stard a talk on ale Blade/ Iakor's armor/ Haunting items.

Some people think it's good (and I use it in the BG), but it's not the perfect grind weapon.

@ Havoc: I'm not telling you what to do, but, I would use Trielra's Staff in Axepath and buildings in Tarn that have Undead in them, because their reduced to hit makes it less likely that you get hit, and if you don't get hit, you won't have to heal.

[Doolipalally]

@ Havoc: I'm not telling you what to do

That gets my vote for quote of the day! :)

[thingirl]

Thx.

[taproot97]

thats a laugh

[Young Ned]

None of my characters have ever used the Hale Blade for very long. I tried it out in 2 or 3 fights with my first character, and it never healed him ONCE. So I don't see how it could make any significant difference to how often you have to heal; I would think the very minor number of SP you gain from it would be more than offset by the number you lose because of its lesser MR bonus. My characters mainly used Goblindoom until they got the SSL.

[thingirl]

Well, in the early levels of the BG when everything is 3+, Hale is good. Also in Fougbough and the windowless tower.

[Young Ned]

Good point. I'd try it out in those areas, but I don't know how many of my characters even have the darned thing any more. I'm pretty sure my first character sold it after trying it out, and I can't remember if I even bothered to buy it for the other two characters...

[psychoadept]

Good point. I'd try it out in those areas, but I don't know how many of my characters even have the darned thing any more. I'm pretty sure my first character sold it after trying it out, and I can't remember if I even bothered to buy it for the other two characters...

If you never bought it, you can still go and get it. I had that situation.

[thingirl]

I blew it off untill the BG opened. It's actually usefull, who knew? And it's also useful in scaled scenarios where you don't have a weapon to lower their MR, like Yir-Tannon.

[Young Ned]

If you never bought it, you can still go and get it. I had that situation.
Good point, thanks!

And it's also useful in scaled scenarios where you don't have a weapon to lower their MR, like Yir-Tannon.
Another good point. Reps to both of you!

[thingirl]

Thanks YN.

[taproot97]

thx all of u for help ,any way d figuers on wiki need to be altered

[Doolipalally]

thx all of u for help ,any way d figuers on wiki need to be altered

What changes are needed?

[thingirl]

And please type in English. You can use any dialect other than tweet.

[Havoc]

Or sms.

[Hastifer]

None of my characters have ever used the Hale Blade for very long. I tried it out in 2 or 3 fights with my first character, and it never healed him ONCE. So I don't see how it could make any significant difference to how often you have to heal; I would think the very minor number of SP you gain from it would be more than offset by the number you lose because of its lesser MR bonus. My characters mainly used Goblindoom until they got the SSL.

The hale blade does have a chance of performing a full heal. As in 100% SP returned to you. Its a touch more rare than the minor sp heals, but it happens enough for me. (ok a lot more rare, but often enough in most scaled scenarios)

That said, the value of the hale blade increases as your SP increases. Why? Because it takes longer to nickel & dime you to the critical point, which buys you more time to get that full heal you're waiting for.

[thingirl]

Or sms.

True. (and I do know what that is :)) or sms. But I'm fluent in all 3 languages.

[Young Ned]

The hale blade does have a chance of performing a full heal. As in 100% SP returned to you. Its a touch more rare than the minor sp heals, but it happens enough for me. (ok a lot more rare, but often enough in most scaled scenarios)

That said, the value of the hale blade increases as your SP increases. Why? Because it takes longer to nickel & dime you to the critical point, which buys you more time to get that full heal you're waiting for.

Even the minor SP heals seemed vanishingly rare to me, so I shudder to think how rare the full heals must be. :eek: Still, you've all made some very good points about places where the HB would be more useful than I originally thought. I'll probably see about picking it up for those of my characters who haven't actually sold it.

(I think my first character sold it back to the store he bought it from, but I'll bet that doesn't mean he can buy it back again...)

From reading MegaTokyo, I've become fairly fluent in what they call "leet", which seems to be the great grandparent of all these modern dialects like tweet and sms. More so at reading it than writing it, though...

[thingirl]

Hehehe, verry funny. ;)

[taproot97]

well the last round was 6 plus at MR 55
and thingirl i am not writing in saudi arabic
hehehehehehehe

[thingirl]

I meant that you should use proper English (although what that means is dependent on where you live), like using "you" instead of "u" and punctuating your sentences with ","; "."; "?"; and "!". Abbreviations like lol are OK. A good rule is to use spellcheck and change any underlined words that aren't proper nouns. (sms is short for short messaging system.)

[taproot97]

oh thats what you meant but anyway i cant use spell check its too irritating

[thingirl]

I know what you mean. But, now I can spell character. But I can't spell probbably. (note, spell check isn't on in this post) Spell check is good because it helps people understan what you're saying.

[taproot97]

repped for funniness

[thingirl]

Thanks. Oh, and if anyone can't understand my bad spelling: I know what you mean. But, now I can spell character. But I can't spell probably. (note, spell check isn't on in this post) Spell check is good because it helps people understand what you're saying.

[taproot97]

oops. i can't give you more than 1 repp.

[taproot97]

lol we posted at the same time

[thingirl]

That would condone an edit. And just find 3 other people to repp, then if you remember, you're good.

[taproot97]

to find 3 people to repp.is tough..........let's see.....................mabey later.............................guess i would rember

[thingirl]

It's OK if you don't. Let's see: the GM (http://www.srythforum.com/member.php?u=2), Srythadventuer (http://www.srythforum.com/member.php?u=4), and Havoc (http://www.srythforum.com/member.php?u=3). Just go to stats and then find all posts by the person. Just figure out something to say.

[taproot97]

boy (girl) you want a repp.

[thingirl]

No (yes). I do(not) need it.

[taproot97]

please enable spell check.

[thingirl]

Sorry, I thought I did. nead Vs. need is a hard one. In fact, ea Vs. ee is a hard one in general.

[Taleria]

None of my characters have ever used the Hale Blade for very long. I tried it out in 2 or 3 fights with my first character, and it never healed him ONCE. So I don't see how it could make any significant difference to how often you have to heal; I would think the very minor number of SP you gain from it would be more than offset by the number you lose because of its lesser MR bonus. My characters mainly used Goblindoom until they got the SSL.

Sorry to necropost again, but I just wanted to weigh in with my opinion, which is in line with Ned's. I tried the Hale Blade through Tarn and deeply regretted it when running into a Halgirom. The lack of a special attack and very pitiful heals most of the time make Hale an inferior choice. Plus there's this, a recent killing blow I made:

You've Rolled 7
Attack: Defensive
• A sudden surge of energy overtakes you and you lay four impossibly-swift blows upon your enemy
@ Enemy loses 49
• You slash at your enemy
@ Enemy loses 2
• You've SLAIN your foe!

I was down to four SP but couldn't run away. I figured I'd just die, since this was against one of the brigands in the ice cave. Well, it appears I won't have to. Just barely.

So I'm sticking with my longsword.

[Young Ned]

Actually, I've started using the Hale Blade more often than when I posted that. :) I find it handy in Tarn for run-of-the-mill combats against critters that don't have a special weapon for them (insects, etc.), although I do switch back to the SSL for Halgiroms.

And it's also useful in Zumryn's battlegrounds in the lower levels of both the Bone Horde Challenge and the Lords of Ogredom -- as long as the opponents are only 3+ or 4+ the lower MR and lack of special doesn't matter, and the occasional small amount of healing does help me not have to use Restoration quite as often. Once the to-hit goes above 3+ or 4+, I switch to another weapon to get it back to 3+ for a few more levels.

[wetheril]

And it's also useful in Zumryn's battlegrounds in the lower levels of both the Bone Horde Challenge and the Lords of Ogredom -- as long as the opponents are only 3+ or 4+ the lower MR and lack of special doesn't matter, and the occasional small amount of healing does help me not have to use Restoration quite as often. Once the to-hit goes above 3+ or 4+, I switch to another weapon to get it back to 3+ for a few more levels.

This. Hale Blade is actually quite useful when the to-hit of the enemies is low, there are many combat rounds, and the frequency of special attacks are also quite low. I also love seeing the major healing ability of Hale Blade kick in, though that seems to be statistically rare. Still, BHC especially gives you enough combat rounds that the major healing tends to kick in at least once or twice a run.

[thingirl]

And in BHC, if the difference between your MR with SSL (or other weapon) and your best undead weapon, you can "buy" yourself another extra few levels.

[spencer]

This. Hale Blade is actually quite useful when the to-hit of the enemies is low, there are many combat rounds, and the frequency of special attacks are also quite low. I also love seeing the major healing ability of Hale Blade kick in, though that seems to be statistically rare. Still, BHC especially gives you enough combat rounds that the major healing tends to kick in at least once or twice a run.


I use the Hale blade almost exclusively, except when I need more MR in the battlegrounds. I also use my SSL for all "new" adventures and my Creyn blade, for Axepath, of course