Renew/Extend Your Subscription

[Joddelle]

I was looking over the renew/extend your Sryth™ Adventurers Guild Subscription (http://www.sryth.com/ci.php?f_c=store.inc) page, and saw that there is now an option to buy AT's when you renew.

This option is a pretty good deal, as the AT rate is about 26 AT/$10, which rivals the $300-$400 donation rates. I know I've asked for something like this before. I'm glad the GM has added it.

[Zedalion]

That’s awesome, thanks for pointing that out.

Quick noobish question about donations, please feel free to tell me to go away if this is stupid:

In terms of the ATs per dollar exchange rates, is there a reason the game couldn’t track ongoing donations and start giving you a better rate based on the total amount you’ve donated, rather than only rewarding people who donate a lot all at once?

What I mean is, let’s say someone could donate, say, $10/month. However, they are deterred from doing so by the observation that they’ll get a better rate of ATs if they save up for ten months and then donate $100 all at once, or better yet if they wait twenty months and donate $200. However, I would think the GM would just as soon get that extra $10/month, instead. For one thing, it’s money now as opposed to money later, and for another, the person could decide to quit the game at any point during that period, and then they end up donating zero.

So I guess I’m wondering why you couldn’t get 16 ATs per $10 for the first $40 worth of donations, and then start getting 18 after that, and so on, if the game tracked your total ongoing donations. That way, people who could only donate a little at a time could still eventually work their way up to the more rewarding rate of exchange.

What do you guys think, or do I need to shut up?

[Joddelle]

That is certainly something the GM could track per account (even allowing the progression when you assign the AT's to different characters). And actually it might increase total revenue, as people would feel better about doing a second, third, etc. donation.

Sort of a relief for some of their buyer's remorse. It's a good idea and pretty easy to implement. Of course the only person's opinion that matters on this subject is the GM. I'd send him the suggestion through the in-game suggestion/bug reporter. Who knows? Maybe he'll do it!

[zmflavius]

That’s awesome, thanks for pointing that out.

Quick noobish question about donations, please feel free to tell me to go away if this is stupid:

In terms of the ATs per dollar exchange rates, is there a reason the game couldn’t track ongoing donations and start giving you a better rate based on the total amount you’ve donated, rather than only rewarding people who donate a lot all at once?

What I mean is, let’s say someone could donate, say, $10/month. However, they are deterred from doing so by the observation that they’ll get a better rate of ATs if they save up for ten months and then donate $100 all at once, or better yet if they wait twenty months and donate $200. However, I would think the GM would just as soon get that extra $10/month, instead. For one thing, it’s money now as opposed to money later, and for another, the person could decide to quit the game at any point during that period, and then they end up donating zero.

So I guess I’m wondering why you couldn’t get 16 ATs per $10 for the first $40 worth of donations, and then start getting 18 after that, and so on, if the game tracked your total ongoing donations. That way, people who could only donate a little at a time could still eventually work their way up to the more rewarding rate of exchange.

What do you guys think, or do I need to shut up?

I know for a fact that the Gm tracks ATs donated so far (during a Christmas a while back, he gave rewards based on that), but apart from that time, there is nothing extra for donating more.

[smv1973]

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[wetheril]

Thank you for posting details, Jodelle and smv1973. I have repped you for your suggestion, Zedalion, as I think it's a great suggestion. It would ultimately depend on what the GM thinks, but I like it a lot. :)

[Daffanka]

Man, and I renewed just two weeks ago. Oh well. :(

e: And I actually spent $30 on ATs just two days ago. I wonder if I can email the GM about it and get another 32?

[Joddelle]

Man, and I renewed just two weeks ago. Oh well. :(

e: And I actually spent $30 on ATs just two days ago. I wonder if I can email the GM about it and get another 32?

I'd bet money that you can - the GM is very decent that way.

[Daffanka]

Well I went for it. Let's hope I get slightly richer.

[thingirl]

I think dad renewed in april. Nex time, maybe I'll buy ATs by giving dad the extra money + Alanne's $5.

[scout1idf]

From May 2009's Questions for the GM.....

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Scout1idf was wondering if the donation system could be modified.

For example:

I only use gift cards for on-line purchases and I usually run into the problem of having not quite enough left on the card.

($10.00 for donation and only $7.83 left on the card.)

Would it be possible to make donations in $1.00 increments with a $5.00 minimum?

Something like:



$20.00=32 AT's (*std. donation and AT reward)
$19.00=30 AT's
$18.00=28 AT's
$17.00=26 AT's
$16.00=25 AT's
$15.00=24 AT's
$14.00=22 AT's
$13.00=20 AT's
$12.00=18 AT's
$11.00=17 AT's
$10.00=16 AT's(*std. donation and AT reward)
$9.00=14 AT's
$8.00=12 AT's
$7.00=10 AT's
$6.00=9 AT's
$5.00=8 AT's



This might make it easier for some to donate as well.

I don't know how PayPal's system works so I don't know if this would be a problem to set up or not.

I do have to wonder if donations would increase (total $$$) with this type of flexibility.

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Since we never received answers to those questions, I was thinking about sending this suggestion again. I still think having other options when it comes to donating, would generate more money for the GM.

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As for the new renew system,

Sryth™ Adventurers Guild
3 Month Subscription $9.95


Sryth™ Adventurers Guild
12 Month Subscription $19.95


Sryth™ Adventurers Guild
12 Month Subscription
+ 40 Adventurer Tokens * $34.95


Sryth™ Adventurers Guild
12 Month Subscription
+ 80 Adventurer Tokens * $49.95



* Bonus Adventurer Tokens are awarded to a single character of your choice. You may receive your subscription bonus by visiting the "windowless building with a blue door" in Hawklor, Talinus, or Trithik.

I was wondering if that was 40/80 AT's in addition to the regular amount of AT's you receive or just the 40/80 AT's?

[psychoadept]

As for the new renew system,

I was wondering if that was 40/80 AT's in addition to the regular amount of AT's you receive or just the 40/80 AT's?


Do we normally get ATs for renewing?

[zmflavius]

I was wondering if that was 40/80 AT's in addition to the regular amount of AT's you receive or just the 40/80 AT's?


Do we normally get ATs for renewing?

No.

Not 'til now.

[psychoadept]

No.

Not 'til now.

That's what I thought...

[Elrond]

Dang! I renewed for 3 years at the beginning of the year! Oh well!

[thingirl]

You can renew for 3 years?

And my other question is: What if you don't want to buy the 40 ATs? Can you still renew for $20 and get 0 ATs?

[smv1973]

You can renew for 3 years?

And my other question is: What if you don't want to buy the 40 ATs? Can you still renew for $20 and get 0 ATs?

Yes you can still renew for the normal price with no AT.

[zmflavius]

And yes, you can renew for three years by renewing for 1 year 3 times in a row.

[scout1idf]

As for the new renew system,

I was wondering if that was 40/80 AT's in addition to the regular amount of AT's you receive or just the 40/80 AT's?

Do we normally get ATs for renewing?
No.

Not 'til now.
That's what I thought...

Sorry, I was lost in my own little world. ***Walks off muttering to himself.....***

[psychoadept]

Sorry, I was lost in my own little world. ***Walks off muttering to himself.....***

I figured you were thinking of the bonus pack you get when you first go AG or something...

[Daffanka]

Awesome, the GM agreed to add 32 tokens to my account. :D

[Joddelle]

Congrats and hugs! I was pretty sure he would. I'm glad you asked.

[spencer]

Awesome, the GM agreed to add 32 tokens to my account. :D

I have found that the GM is more than fair in these types of situations. I tried to make a donation with a $ 100 gift card last week and I think because Paypal charges one dollar, I could not receive the maximum benefit in AT you get for $100. I wrote the GM to inquire if it was his account that caused the $1 charge. He stated it was not but he gave me 20 AT/$10 instead of the 18 that I would have earned with a "regular" $90 dollar donation.

Now reading back over this I see it is confusing, but I don't know how to say it better, so I will just leave it.

[thingirl]

I get it. You thought you paid $100 when the transaction registered at $99. So you emailed the GM and he gave you the amount for $100 instead of $90.

[spencer]

I get it. You thought you paid $100 when the transaction registered at $99. So you emailed the GM and he gave you the amount for $100 instead of $90.

No, that is not right, I knew it was confusing. For a donation of $90, you get 18 AT/$10, or 162 AT. For $100, you get 20 AT/$10, or 200 AT. The GM generously gave me 180 AT, ($90 at 20 AT/$10), instead of 162 AT. I tried to get the 20 AT rate, but because of paypal, I was one dollar short. Clear as mud, now?

[wetheril]

No, that is not right, I knew it was confusing. For a donation of $90, you get 18 AT/$10, or 162 AT. For $100, you get 20 AT/$10, or 200 AT. The GM generously gave me 180 AT, ($90 at 20 AT/$10), instead of 162 AT. I tried to get the 20 AT rate, but because of paypal, I was one dollar short. Clear as mud, now?

That's not the first time I've heard of Paypal doing that. But I get what you're saying. GM can't give you $100 worth of ATs (due to Paypal charge), but he was kind enough to get you $90 worth at the preferred rate (20 AT/$10) instead of the usual $90 rate.

Btw, is your Paypal account verified by any chance? I'm not sure if having a verified account makes a difference (mine is, and I don't seem to have that problem).

[smv1973]

That's not the first time I've heard of Paypal doing that. But I get what you're saying. GM can't give you $100 worth of ATs (due to Paypal charge), but he was kind enough to get you $90 worth at the preferred rate (20 AT/$10) instead of the usual $90 rate.

Btw, is your Paypal account verified by any chance? I'm not sure if having a verified account makes a difference (mine is, and I don't seem to have that problem).

I think he may of been using a pre-paid Visa or Mastercard. A lot of players use them.

[Young Ned]

I think he may of been using a pre-paid Visa or Mastercard. A lot of players use them.

Yes, he said it was a "$100 gift card" in his original post.

[Elrond]

For the record, the GM is extremely generous with his AT exchange rate. The higher you go, the bigger the rate. I made a considerable contribution in April ($600 +). I got a tremendous rate that was higher than what was registered in the donation page.

[thingirl]

Oh man, I would pick the top donator to pick a fight with, wouldn't I. If we ever get PvP battles, I know the first person that Alanne is gonna get her **** whooped by.

[Elrond]

Oh man, I would pick the top donator to pick a fight with, wouldn't I. If we ever get PvP battles, I know the first person that Alanne is gonna get her **** whooped by.

I wish I was top donor. But I know for a fact that a player donated at least $US 1500 to Sryth a couple of years ago. That is more than I've contributed to the game since I became AG in 2007. It might not be far-fetched to say that I'm in the top 20 donors to the game though!

[Daffanka]

Damn. I usually just sent off $10 a month to support the game (despite exchange rates) but donating $1500 would give you about 3600 ATs if I have the exchange rates down.

Damn.

[smv1973]

The option for a 3 month membership is now gone.


Sryth™ Adventurers Guild
12 Month Membership $19.95


Sryth™ Adventurers Guild
12 Month Membership
+ 40 Adventurer Tokens * $34.95


Sryth™ Adventurers Guild
12 Month Membership
+ 80 Adventurer Tokens * $49.95

[Oldschool]

Coulda posted this under "Milestones" or "Don't you *love* it when" but......

There are 372 days left on your subscription. :D

Has it been nearly a year already.

[Oldschool]

This is in regards to my previous post (not the one referencing my status) which has been deleted for any that may have seen it.

Apparently PayPal does NOT have a surcharge on certain business transactions on the buyer such as with Sryth donations unlike I previously posted. One dollar will be "taken" from your account/prepaid card but it will be "returned". I'm not sure that it is actually swapped around or done strictly "on paper". I believe it is done just to verify the account. This dollar fee does not go in limbo (at least in my case) and shouldn't affect your funds when donating/renewing.

Could someone more familiar with PayPal set the record straight. I think I have it correct - the operative word being think.

Keep in mind however that some (maybe all) prepaid cards have to be registered for certain purchases such as any done online.

[smv1973]

If you go to pay for a membership or make a donation you don't have to have a PayPal account. There is a section on the screen that says this (see just below).


Don't have a PayPal account?
Use your credit card or bank account (where available). Continue


If you click on the continue link it will take you to a screen for you to enter all your info and card info. If you pay this way with a prepaid credit card there will be no surcharge put on the card. I have used a $100 pre-paid card this way and was able to charge all $100 at once.



Wal-Mart has a pre-paid credit card that you can buy and you are able to put the amount of money on it that you want. It's kind of like a gift card with no set value on it. Also you can reload money on the card. If you want to keep the card active there is a $3 fee per month.

[Oldschool]

Thanks, SMV. Initially I thought their was a surcharge involved until I double-checked the data. I thought I had it right the second :rolleyes: time but I wanted to make sure.

Repped for your rapid reply.

EDIT:

Also I've joined the ranks of (he looks around impishly to see if Young Ned is "listening" :p ) donators, albeit a fledgling one, taking advantage of the very generous renewal "bonus" as well as a regular one. After all, I just had to clear out that remaining prepaid balance left over after the renewal. :)

[smv1973]

This is in regards to my previous post (not the one referencing my status) which has been deleted for any that may have seen it.

Apparently PayPal does NOT have a surcharge on certain business transactions on the buyer such as with Sryth donations unlike I previously posted. One dollar will be "taken" from your account/prepaid card but it will be "returned". I'm not sure that it is actually swapped around or done strictly "on paper". I believe it is done just to verify the account. This dollar fee does not go in limbo (at least in my case) and shouldn't affect your funds when donating/renewing.

Could someone more familiar with PayPal set the record straight. I think I have it correct - the operative word being think.

Keep in mind however that some (maybe all) prepaid cards have to be registered for certain purchases such as any done online.

If you add a pre-paid credit card to your PayPal account most times they take a $1 to check to see that the card is active. PayPal does credit that $1 back to your card but it takes like 7-10 days. If you want to avoid that see my other post.

http://www.srythforum.com/showpost.php?p=10631&postcount=36

[spencer]

That is very good information...I had a gift for $100 and could not get the $100 to credit...so now I will use the credit card option. Reps to both of you

[psychoadept]

This is in regards to my previous post (not the one referencing my status) which has been deleted for any that may have seen it.

Apparently PayPal does NOT have a surcharge on certain business transactions on the buyer such as with Sryth donations unlike I previously posted. One dollar will be "taken" from your account/prepaid card but it will be "returned". I'm not sure that it is actually swapped around or done strictly "on paper". I believe it is done just to verify the account. This dollar fee does not go in limbo (at least in my case) and shouldn't affect your funds when donating/renewing.

Could someone more familiar with PayPal set the record straight. I think I have it correct - the operative word being think.

Keep in mind however that some (maybe all) prepaid cards have to be registered for certain purchases such as any done online.

My experience, based on transactions done with my mom and a few others, is that paypal takes a cut if you pay with a credit card or tell it you're paying for goods and services. But this comes out of the payee's funds, not the payer's. Whenever PayPal has needed to verify an account for me, it's put a few cents on my account rather than taking it off, as I recall. Edit: but it does appear that they charge/refund a card to confirm it. That makes sense.

[Oldschool]

A bit early but what the heck...... :D


Subscription Status: Expires 10/7/11
There are 425 days left on your subscription.
Once again I took advantage of the nice renewal bonus ATs. I wanted all of them to go to Hawk so I went "Behind the Blue Door" with him and hit "Redeem Bonus ATs" and they all went to him.

I know that ATs from donations can now be split amongst multiple characters but it seems that if you get bonus ATs via the renewal bonus they may not be dividable.

[texlaw1992]

I did that when I bought my SSD. Now I'm renewed through 9/2011 (hmm, renewed through 9/11. maybe that's not so good, lol).

[Young Ned]

I did that when I bought my SSD. Now I'm renewed through 9/2011 (hmm, renewed through 9/11. maybe that's not so good, lol).

As long as it's not through 9/11/11 you should be okay. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v735/Old_Ned/icon_cool.gif

[kzero]

I know that ATs from donations can now be split amongst multiple characters but it seems that if you get bonus ATs via the renewal bonus they may not be dividable.


I renewed earlier this yea and just sent the GM an email asking him to split the bonus ATs evenly for my 4 characters. He was able to accomodate.

[Oldschool]

Thanks for confirming that kzero and the reminder that the GM is normally very accommodating on such requests.

[Oldschool]

Woot woot.......

Account Status: ..........expires in 396 days..........


..........and that's just from a renwal standpoint. The lucrative bonus AT package, plus the 16 extra AT's and the chance to double them add several more woot woots.

And I was torn between doubling my renewal bonus or making a separate side donation.

I don't know how many times I've been a few (or even one) short for a piece or a configuration/kit, but it's happened more than once. So in the end cash in hand and AT numbers won out since a flat out donation instead of a renewal netted me 10 more ATs despite the lucrative cost per AT value of the renewal bonus.

My early B'day present. :)

[Oldschool]

And re: renewing.

I just used a prepaid Visa from Wal-mart with no problem through PayPal and that was without registering with PayPal. However, besides it being activated at the register I registered it online which according to the card is a requirement for online purchases. I'm guessing other prepaid cards are the same or similar.

Also note how you register it insofar as your address as it indicates it may need to match exactly. I don't think it asked for a name, but if so I'd make sure it matched exactly as well.

[Tetracapillactomist]

Well then, congrats on that renewal and donation, OS, and an early Happy Birthday to you.

:)

And good luck - as to all that Visa-Walmart stuff: haven't a clue. :)

[scout1idf]

When I donated the other day, my Visa Vanilla worked just fine, so I'm guessing that trying to use it on-line the same day it is purchased can cause some problems.

The card I used had been activated for a couple of weeks and went straight through.....

As for renewal, I may still use 'snail mail' in support of my brother's job.

[Tetracapillactomist]

Damn. I usually just sent off $10 a month to support the game (despite exchange rates) but donating $1500 would give you about 3600 ATs if I have the exchange rates down.

Damn.

Just read through this thread and spotted that, so for the sake of correct figures: a $1,500 donation would net you 4,800 AT if applying the top advertised exchange rate (which is 1,600 for $500).

But, as Elrond mentioned before that:

For the record, the GM is extremely generous with his AT exchange rate. The higher you go, the bigger the rate. I made a considerable contribution in April ($600 +). I got a tremendous rate that was higher than what was registered in the donation page.

[billydakid]

If anyone donates that much at once they're high lol

[Tetracapillactomist]

Um... maybe, Billy. Never been, don't know. I do like mushrooms, but never managed to get high off shiitake... :(

Wish I read Elrond's post a long time ago though... I would have considered it - might as well lump it.

I mean, what if $1,000 gets you the double of $500 (as it might... should? - whatever), or 64 (!) ATs to the $10?... $2,000 at 128 ATs (!?!) per $10?!? (Never even asked... meh, whatever. As you said: must be high... But what's done is done.)

[billydakid]

If ya can afford go for it. I got other things to spend a thouasand bucks on like tvs and computers lol.

[Tetracapillactomist]

Not to mention shiitake... That stuff doesn't grow on trees... :) Well, sometimes the mushies can take a back seat, and once you got enough desktops, a laptop, a few netbooks, meh... TV can be OK, but kinda addictive to just stare at it till you fall asleep... "look at me, I'm so pretty!" - "go away, want to play some Sryth" - "no, look, I gots an RGBY screen!" - "oh, hey, that *is* kinda pretty" - "yeah... come closer... play with my colour schemes..." :)

Eh, now I'm wiped. Anyway, think about it, Billy: at $4,000 it might be 256 ATs per $10! ;) 102,400 ATs! ;)