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Joddelle

10-03-2009, 12:57 AM

Because an update this big deserves an announcement, but mostly I feel like bragging about it...

I spent most of the day today doing PG II:The Perilous Streets (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Proving_Grounds_II:_The_Perilous_Streets), and updated all the rewards and difficulties in the Wiki.

By the way, the toughest guy is in the last scenario, and is 9+ at 70 MR, with 85 SP. Though there are lots of combats with 9+ at 65 MR and higher SP than that scattered through the story.

thingirl

10-03-2009, 01:00 AM

Nice and very repp worthy.

EDIT: You have given out too much Reputation in the last 24 hours, try again later.

wetheril

10-03-2009, 01:13 AM

Very impressive, and definitely worthy of a rep when I am next able.

Oldschool

10-03-2009, 02:16 AM

Hmmmm, I'm starting to discern a pattern here......

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Joddelle again.

Lol.... repped after I spread some around.

EDIT: That didn't take long. Also that puts you at a very deserved 300 Joddelle.

Joddelle

10-03-2009, 03:37 AM

EDIT: That didn't take long. Also that puts you at a very deserved 300 Joddelle.
Yay Me! *clap-clap*

And I put you over 200 as thanks.

thingirl

10-03-2009, 01:37 PM

I'm still waiting on the stupid 24 hours.

Young Ned

10-04-2009, 11:41 AM

Sweet. Thanks, Joddelle, and repped. :cool:

Hastifer

10-05-2009, 06:42 PM

That general overview in your OP above is just what Simeon wanted to hear! Thanks!

Joddelle

10-06-2009, 06:34 AM

Updated all the rewards and difficulties for
The Giants, Part I: A Solemn Decree (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Quest:The_Giants,_Part_I:_A_Solemn_Decree)

wetheril

10-06-2009, 07:43 AM

wetheril

10-07-2009, 01:34 AM

I thought I'd add what I'd been working on all evening to this thread as well.

To-Hit Values of the Ogre Lords (In The Lords of Ogredom):

After concluding the 9+ values of 4 of the Ogre Lords, I constructed a table of their 9+ to-hit values based on an observed pattern. The table is not officially incorporated into the page yet, because it is untested. Please see the talk page (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Quest_talk:The_Lords_of_Ogredom#Combat_Values_for_ the_Ogre_Lords) for the table and the discussion.

I just want to give a public "thank you" to everybody who helped test the MR values of the Ogre Lords. The confirmed data from the talk section has now been updated on the Wiki Page (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Quest:The_Lords_of_Ogredom#Ogre_Lords.27_Stats).

Young Ned

10-08-2009, 01:33 AM

Nicely done, Wetheril & Co. Have a rep. :cool:

Hastifer

10-08-2009, 09:08 PM

Proving Grounds III:Shadow Over Stonegate (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Proving_Grounds_III:_Shadow_Over_Stonegate)

The above has been updated with to hit information vs the recommended MR (or close to it) for most battles. Most are 3+ or 4+ but there are some surprise 6+ and 12+ enemies in there.

Also, some encounters were missing (mostly insignificant ones), but they are in there now.

Finally, the xp awards differed in some cases, I suspect due to Power usage by the original testers. (I kept both values, and represented them as a range.)

My only regret is not getting the checks for the graveyard.

Why did I do this? Simeon needed some more SP. He got +12 extra out of it.

wetheril

10-08-2009, 09:19 PM

I noticed all the "edits" you were doing with PG III earlier. ;) Just want to say good job, and I'd rep you if I hadn't already done so. :)

Joddelle

10-08-2009, 10:22 PM

Proving Grounds III:Shadow Over Stonegate (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Proving_Grounds_III:_Shadow_Over_Stonegate)
Cool - This one was next on my list.

Hastifer

10-09-2009, 12:53 PM

I noticed all the "edits" you were doing with PG III earlier. ;) Just want to say good job, and I'd rep you if I hadn't already done so. :)
Thanks!

Cool - This one was next on my list.

I thought of that after I did it... hey if you want to find all the 9+ values ... :)

I saw you started on Solundor's, too. (A real good start)

wetheril

10-10-2009, 01:16 AM

I'm proud to announce that the wiki page for "The Eye that Binds (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Quest:The_Eye_That_Binds)" is now (more or less) complete.

The text directions and maps have been added, all the 9+ MR values and SPs of set encounters are there, and determining the difficulty of the labyrinth skeletons has been an exhaustive effort that took me a good part of this morning and afternoon.

Oldschool

10-10-2009, 01:21 AM

Repped for your hard work. I'm sure Scarbrow is glad to have one of the "A" team players for the "Wiki Monkeys" back. ;)

Although I've done some contributing on the wiki it has to date been easy and simple stuff so for now I'll stay on the sidelines warming the bench. ;)

thingirl

10-10-2009, 01:23 AM

Although I've done some contributing on the wiki it has to date been easy and simple stuff so for now I'll stay on the sidelines warming the bench. ;)

Me too, on both counts :). And repped, Wetheril.

Joddelle

10-10-2009, 02:13 AM

I'm proud to announce that the wiki page for "The Eye that Binds (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Quest:The_Eye_That_Binds)" is now (more or less) complete.

Nice job! Repped.

Scarbrow

10-11-2009, 07:17 PM

Well, I'm certainly more than satisfied with everybody's efforts.

You all have been making our wiki a far better place, and it keeps improving. I've handed out some repps around here to my dear colleagues for that. And just because you're not the most active user doesn't mean you're of no use. Oldschool, in particular, makes it better for everybody by tending to the game updates, that otherwise depend on my copious free time. And that means I can dedicate to devise even more complicated templates.

Like the one I came here to announce! After dozens of hours of solid effort, Template:Foe (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Foe) is at last complete. Please go to the wiki to test it, and consider using it on your daily work. I hope it will be of much use.

EDIT: Oh, and I almost forgot! Scout1df, bad boy, come off your behind and start wikiediting again now!

Oldschool

10-11-2009, 07:45 PM

Thanks, eventually I'm going to get in there and do some more involved editing/contributing.

EDIT: Since I've recycled since your latest post/tip in the "Onlyinclude Tag Error" thread you're worthy of another rep once I spread some around.

thingirl

10-11-2009, 07:57 PM

I know it's just a (fictional) example, but why is the GM scaled 7+ and not 18+?

Oldschool

10-11-2009, 08:03 PM

Did you notice this out of the description, "changes the game as he wishes"?

I'm guessing that initial MR is just to tease us into thinking we mere mortals have a chance. ;)

Also nice "proof" that it is indeed a 'joke monster' Scarbrow. :D

wetheril

10-11-2009, 08:10 PM

Like the one I came here to announce! After dozens of hours of solid effort, Template:Foe (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Foe) is at last complete. Please go to the wiki to test it, and consider using it on your daily work. I hope it will be of much use.

*grins* I saw all the "testing" you were doing yesterday. Well-done and repped! Well, I'm off to test it out. ;)

thingirl

10-11-2009, 08:17 PM

Don't do the Murk page. Scarbrow has already done some, and I'm doing the rest of them. (I like having an example in front of me when I'm learning.)

wetheril

10-11-2009, 08:30 PM

Don't do the Murk page. Scarbrow has already done some, and I'm doing the rest of them. (I like having an example in front of me when I'm learning.)

Don't worry Thingirl. The Murk is all yours. :)

thingirl

10-11-2009, 08:32 PM

I actually saved right as you posted that. And I left the ones that were just names as just names. If it would be useful to change those (and/or put green colors on all of them) just say.

wetheril

10-11-2009, 10:13 PM

I have to say: I am absolutely loving the new Foe:Template. It makes calculating 9+ MRs so much easier!

Joddelle

10-12-2009, 12:35 AM

wetheril

10-12-2009, 01:11 AM

Underfoot (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Quest:Underfoot) has been added to the Wiki. It utilizes Scarbrow's new Foe:Template.

Scarbrow

10-12-2009, 05:09 PM

Very nice template - Since I'm working on it anyway I went ahead and updated the Ring of Illusion (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/RoI) with the foe template. I have to say I'm not a fan of the background highlighting for normal monsters, but otherwise I like it a lot!

I could add another option to color to remove all background altogether, but I quite like the little extra highlight it gives to battles. And the default color is very soft. Opinions anyone?

thingirl

10-12-2009, 05:15 PM

I like it. In fact, I think it draws attention to the enemies, which is good, because I often times look at a page just for the foe info.

Scarbrow

10-13-2009, 10:26 PM

There's a new template on the block: Template:HeadingLevel (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Template:HeadingLevel). A simple way to be able to do again what we lost when we started using Item and Quest pages: adding automatic invisible headings so the item or quest will show in TOC

It's simple, but I hope you'll like it. Especially Joddelle and Wetheril, who had both asked for something similar.

wetheril

10-13-2009, 10:37 PM

Joddelle

10-14-2009, 03:43 AM

Very nice! Stand repped again.

Oldschool

10-14-2009, 06:34 AM

And again - 1 more to hit 100.

Joddelle

10-17-2009, 01:42 AM

Proving Grounds V: The Silver Crest (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Proving_Grounds_V:_The_Silver_Crest) is updated with the Foe Template and difficulty by scenario.

wetheril

10-17-2009, 01:53 AM

Proving Grounds V: The Silver Crest (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Proving_Grounds_V:_The_Silver_Crest) is updated with the Foe Template and difficulty by scenario.

Nice work. :) I noticed you working on it earlier today. The MR values for the first few scenarios have been helpful!

Joddelle

10-17-2009, 08:53 PM

Yeah, that was actually why I did PG_V before some of the others. Getting those first 7 AT is pretty easy at around 80 MR, which is nice to know :)

Also: I've updated all the Saarngard Isle quests up to the Joust. I'm starting on the Joust now.

cddanforth

10-18-2009, 05:56 PM

I like it. In fact, I think it draws attention to the enemies, which is good, because I often times look at a page just for the foe info.

I totally agree. Thanks Scarbrow!!

wetheril

10-18-2009, 06:18 PM

Just thought I'd announce that Shattered Skull Part III: Blade Square (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Quest:The_Shattered_Skull_Part_III:_Blade_Square) has been updated with a detailed walkthrough, and more specific changes to the difficulty requirements.

Changes were made because the old walkthrough made it sound like you HAD to have Necromancy 70+, or you'd be forced to fight a battle you had no chance of winning. You can indeed fight the tough battle (9+ at MR 150, 300 SP), or you can simply flee without any consequences. Having that high level of Necromancy is just a nice exp perk, nothing else. :)

Joddelle

10-18-2009, 06:57 PM

Nice! I always try to have Necromancy 70 by that point, but it's great to show all the options.

wetheril

10-18-2009, 08:30 PM

Joddelle

10-18-2009, 09:45 PM

Well, I build Necro not only for that, but for Crow Hill (16 AT for an easy combat if you blast with Necro), Meglamire (another no AS&P quest, this one requiring 70 in a skill or power), and as a way to get by the few battles needing 100 MR in the first half of PG V (getting Shadowmagic in Eye of the storm). And finally, because Palemoor Isle gives you bigger bonuses to Necro (in the thousands) for higher levels.

Pretty much, after I acquire all skills and powers that cost XP to get, I pour all general into Necromancy until it's at 70.

cddanforth

10-19-2009, 06:07 PM

Yeah, I agree. Before now, I've always gotten my characters to Necromancy 70+ before doing Part III. Now that it isn't the case anymore, I actually think it's a great idea to complete the Shattered Skull series before collecting all your skills and powers. With the toughest battle in the whole saga topping off at 9+ with MR 87, it's better IMHO, to forgo the 64 exp you get to Necromancy in Part III if it means you can get up to 20 ATs early on (for finishing Part 5) to help pick up that quickstone sooner. None of the quests give AS&P exp, so I think this is a great option, especially for those of use who are trying to be "purists".

A little off topic, but is there any real reason NOT to pick up the quickstone as soon as possible? I don't mean the 90 day XP bonus, but the actual quickstone. I'm about to get one, and just wanted to make sure there isn't something I'm missing since the AT's are non refundable.
Also thanks for the update! Makes the quest much more accessible.

wetheril

10-19-2009, 06:17 PM

A little off topic, but is there any real reason NOT to pick up the quickstone as soon as possible? I don't mean the 90 day XP bonus, but the actual quickstone. I'm about to get one, and just wanted to make sure there isn't something I'm missing since the AT's are non refundable.
Also thanks for the update! Makes the quest much more accessible.

Definitely pick up the Quickstone if you have already gotten all your skills and powers, and the Creyn Blade. The only incentive for not picking it up right away is if you need the ATs to borrow equipment from Tallys a little longer, and either haven't collected all your skills and powers, or you need an extra MR/SP boost to do key quests like Runeskins. From a previous thread, you already have your Creyn blade--which is terrific. If you haven't collected all skills and powers yet, I think at this point, it's really up to you.

And you're welcome. I'm glad the re-write of the walkthrough for Shattered Skull Part III has been helpful. I was considering re-writing Shattered Skull Part IV's walkthrough, but I decided not to bother for now--it's not a very difficult quest; it's just a little convoluted. I've already been delaying working on Heir to the Flame for a while now, so I'll get around to writing that walkthrough in the next few days. :)

cddanforth

10-19-2009, 07:03 PM

Definitely pick up the Quickstone if you have already gotten all your skills and powers, and the Creyn Blade. The only incentive for not picking it up right away is if you need the ATs to borrow equipment from Tallys a little longer, and either haven't collected all your skills and powers, or you need an extra MR/SP boost to do key quests like Runeskins. From a previous thread, you already have your Creyn blade--which is terrific. If you haven't collected all skills and powers yet, I think at this point, it's really up to you.

And you're welcome. I'm glad the re-write of the walkthrough for Shattered Skull Part III has been helpful. I was considering re-writing Shattered Skull Part IV's walkthrough, but I decided not to bother for now--it's not a very difficult quest; it's just a little convoluted. I've already been delaying working on Heir to the Flame for a while now, so I'll get around to writing that walkthrough in the next few days. :)

Exactly what I was hoping to hear :D Now I can get the quickstone with a clear concience, so thanks one again Wetheril! rep inc soon as it lets me.

Joddelle

10-19-2009, 07:30 PM

When turning in Rotsbane, I usually buy the best Tallys shield I can afford at that moment. This boosts my MR enough to take on Lord Tarkhald and the Ironbone Champion behind the Silvered Door in Tarkhald crypt, for 4 AT each and a total of 8 AT.

Then while I still have the shield, I do the first half of PG_V to get 9 AT and Shadow Magic.

And then I sell the shield and buy my quickstone.

cddanforth

10-19-2009, 11:49 PM

Joddelle

10-20-2009, 01:24 AM

I added The Winds of Mount Stonejaw (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Quest:The_Winds_of_Mount_Stonejaw) to the wiki.

Enjoy.

wetheril

10-20-2009, 01:27 AM

I added The Winds of Mount Stonejaw (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Quest:The_Winds_of_Mount_Stonejaw) to the wiki.

Enjoy.

Very nice! :) Repped when I am next able.

Edit: Just a matter of opinion, but I think the prereqs. can probably be simplified a little (as most of those should be covered in "A Midnight Visitor"). Other than that, I think you did a terrific job!

Joddelle

10-20-2009, 01:36 AM

I did use the simplified version of the requirements in the questbox. I've seen the whole chain put in the body on other quests, so I thought I'd put it there.

No big deal to simplify if someone wants to.

thingirl

10-20-2009, 01:42 AM

Do I appreaite your work? Yes. Does the repp system? You have given out too much Reputation in the last 24 hours, try again later. No.

shadowblack

10-20-2009, 01:19 PM

I had a look at the Wanted Pages (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Special:WantedPages) and created some of them (though they are all redirects to pages that already exist). A few were the result of wrong links that I fixed, but the pages still show on the list. I'm not sure when they'll be removed from it.

spencer

10-20-2009, 04:56 PM

Can I ask who contributed to or authored the startup guide on the wiki? It was an incredible job and I just wanted to rep them and thank them.

Joddelle

10-20-2009, 05:03 PM

Mostly, it was Scarbrow

spencer

10-20-2009, 05:31 PM

Thanks, Jodelle, did you contribute as well?

Joddelle

10-20-2009, 05:55 PM

Thanks, Jodelle, did you contribute as well?

Only this part.

Scarbrow

10-20-2009, 08:12 PM

That "part" was in fact the heart and soul of the guide, so I still think you're too humble regarding the Startup Guide, Joddelle. There's no way I could have written that, nor the Item collection, without your hard work.

Joddelle

10-21-2009, 12:20 AM

Thank you.

Joddelle

10-22-2009, 03:39 AM

Well, after several hours of work and more than a few distractions, like adding a minor quest (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Quest:Hudlark_the_Fox) and adding some missing items, I've reduced the Items with unknown Value (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Items_with_unknown_Value) category from 100's down to less than 10, one of which seems to be an item no longer in game.

Oldschool

10-22-2009, 04:32 AM

It wasn't too long ago I took a gander at that list Jodelle. It has definitely shrunk. Repped for your hard work.

shadowblack

10-22-2009, 12:50 PM

I took care of a few more things that were on the Wanted Pages list. I'll continue once the list updates (hopefully that'll happen in a few hours) because currently it has gotten too hard to keep track on what has been taken care of.

Scarbrow

10-23-2009, 08:15 PM

I've updated Icons (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Icons), creating all individual Item pages. Anybody has more icons? Item IDs missing are 1015, 16, 18, 19, 20, 23, 24, 29, 37, 38, 41, 43, 44, 46, 49, 50, 51, 55, 59, 63 and 72.

If somebody could take this to the attention of the most veteran players, who are the greatest Icon collectors...

shadowblack

10-23-2009, 08:29 PM

I have two of those.
Item:1016 Bone Icon Of Shadow Might

* Class: Icon, Bone
* Encumbrance: 0
* Might: +4

This small, square, glowing icon, is crafted out of solid bone. It's obvious that this strange object is not of this world.

The likeness of a cloaked figure is etched onto its surface.

You may affix this Nevernal Icon to any imbuable item you may possess, to enhance the attributes of that item. Click the ITEMS button to view your inventory and then USE the desired Imbuable item.

Item:1038 Bone Icon Of Legendary Agility (Use)

* Class: Icon, Bone
* Encumbrance: 0
* Agility: +4

This small, square, glowing icon, is crafted out of solid bone. It's obvious that this strange object is not of this world.

The likeness of a leaping stag is etched onto its surface.

You may affix this Nevernal Icon to any imbuable item you may possess, to enhance the attributes of that item. Click the ITEMS button to view your inventory and then USE the desired Imbuable item.

Oldschool

10-24-2009, 04:44 AM

As expected none of the missing id's in my character inventories but you never know.

For anyone wishing to check the id #'s. Hover your cursor over the item (in storage or inventory) and the id # will show in the bottom left corner. The id number will be the last thing in the description.

shadowblack

10-24-2009, 07:41 PM

Good job on the raffle pages, Joddelle!

To help at least a little bit I provided all the info on the Epic Battle Circlets I could find (good thing Scarbrow remembered it).

Scarbrow

10-24-2009, 07:56 PM

And I just created with my handy bot all of the Item pages for all the Items I had on my list. I know I'm lacking many of the most recent ones, but the bulk of them is finally done.

For the rest of the "modern" items, our greatest hope is Joddelle's infallible and unwavering documenting method. And for the lost ones, the elders' collection of memories and the necrothreaders' efforts.

Joddelle

10-25-2009, 02:33 AM

wetheril

10-25-2009, 03:28 AM

I plowed through the Tallys' Raffles (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Tallys'_Raffles) page and I think it's done.

Some of the specific raffle pages might need some minor edits and formatting, but all the information is in the right place. And all the raffle prize items are now on pages in the Item: namespace.

Nice job on the Raffles page Joddelle, and repped!

I didn't know when Shadowblack was going to finish the walkthrough for The Creeping Wood (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Quest:The_Creeping_Wood), so I went ahead and finished it up.

shadowblack

10-25-2009, 09:06 AM

Great job, Joddelle! However, your hard work made me realize I forgot to provide the Item ids of many raffle items. I do have the Ids of most. How should I add them? Do I just move the page to a new one that has the ID in the title, and edit the itembox?

Here's the list:
Ring of Bone 1124
The Chaos Blade 1127
The Sword of Havoc 1128
The Blade of Decimation 1129
The Razeblade 1130
Avenger's Longsword 1138
Avenger's Breastplate 1139
Avenger's Shield 1140
The Crystal Chest 1150 (won by Rasengon)
Frozentoe Boots 1151
Frigid Steel Boots 1152
Icicle Cape 1153
Icelink Tabard 1154
Ironfrost 1155 (won by Gravegorel)
Serrated Ice Sword 1156
Deepwinter Mace 1157
The Snowstaff 1158
Vine-Entangled Shield 1160
Ironskull Breastplate 1161
Ironskull Helm 1162
Huntsman's Spear 1163 (Sub-Zero has it)
Frozen Goblin Axe 1164
The Crystal Fang 1165
The Heart of Winter 1166
The Frost Band 1168
Emerald Scroll Case 1169
Ruby Scroll Case 1170 (won by Gravegorel)
Garnet Scroll Case 1171
Frosted Ring of Valour Uknown ID (won by Gravegorel)
Turoxyn's Grand Ring Unknown ID (inside the Crystal Chest won by Rasengon
I'm missing the IDs of the ring that was inside the chest and of Frosted Ring of Valour.

The names mentioned are those of the characters.

Scarbrow

10-25-2009, 03:11 PM

Splendid work, you two, Shadowblack and Joddelle. I'm unable to add more reputation to you yet, but will do on the first occasion.

Since Joddelle is on usually-Scarbrow's-maniac-wiki-editing mode, I'm going to work in some other sections, like Sryth's Encyclopedia (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Sryth_Encyclopedia), to avoid edit conflicts. I'll review your changes once you've finished, but for the moment I can only say: WOW :cool::eek::eek::eek::eek::cool:

By the way, for Items we don't still have the Item IDs of, I have a proposal: Let's create the Item pages, like Joddelle's been doing, with just the Item:Name, but in the "ID =" field, let's hazard a guess on the range of Item IDs. Since the GM always adds new items with consecutive Item IDs, and that information gives us a quite precise estimation of the date they were added, having the forum with the dates of the posts and the Game Updates announcements we should be able to place items more or less in their right place. As more and more items are added, we'll end up having the right value by mere exclusion. And in that moment, we'll move them to the appropriate "Item: ID Name" page name. How do you like it?

Joddelle

10-25-2009, 05:29 PM

Here's some items to help you along with the Encyclopedia:

The format is Link|Page Title, and if there's no title, the link is broken, but still appears somewhere in-game.

Joddelle

10-25-2009, 06:11 PM

shadowblack

10-26-2009, 09:30 AM

Joddelle

10-26-2009, 03:25 PM

Joddelle‎ has added Late One Afternoon (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Quest:Late_One_Afternoon) to the wiki.

I added The Mossy Hillside (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Quest:The_Mossy_Hillside). Does anyone know the exact MR and Stamina of the enemies there?

I did this ages ago, and never added it to the wiki, though It may be on my Talk Page (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Joddelle).
{{Questbox
|HeadingLevel = 4
|Name = The Mossy Hillside
|AG = true
|Loc = [[Talinus]] - ''Adventures for This Location''
|Desc = Upon first glance the approaching rise in the forest appears to be nothing more than a steep, mossy slope, but as you near the base of the small hill you spot something that leads you to believe otherwise...
|Req = None
|Diff = <br />
*Large Water Elemental is 9+ at [[MR]] 42; 60 [[SP]]
*Gnarlsnake is 9+ at [[MR]] 30; 37 [[SP]]
|Notes = <br />
*There are two paths, going into the hut yields the [[Neck_Armour#Silver_Amulet_Half|Silver Amulet Half]] and the easier combat.
*Rewards:
**[[Neck_Armour#Silver_Amulet_Half|Silver Amulet Half]]
**[[Rings#Ring_of_Vitality|Ring of Vitality]]
*''Not listed in log''
}}

shadowblack

10-27-2009, 04:36 PM

A bit late, but thanks for the info, Joddelle. After confirming the elemental's Stamina (and accidentally discovering a couple of extra details about it) I added the Foe template to the quest page.

Joddelle

10-27-2009, 05:36 PM

Hehe - all elementals are immune to mundane weapons, if that's what you meant. I did those long before the foe template was available.

shadowblack

10-27-2009, 06:03 PM

That, and the fact that you can flee from round 2 onward. Oh, and the fact that the water elemental actually has a special attack - I had never seen it until today.

Joddelle

10-28-2009, 05:18 AM

I finished updating the difficulties for Solundor's Grand Ring of Illusion (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Quest:Solundor%27s_Grand_Ring_of_Illusion). I took a few 'hits' to Violette's record doing it, but it only cost experience and not AT's, so it's all good.

shadowblack

10-29-2009, 03:06 PM

All missing Hawk-Emblazoned items have been added to the wiki (the Boots and Sleeves were already added).

EDIT: Black Rose Breastplate (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Item:1569_Black_Rose_Breastplate) added to the wiki.

Joddelle

10-31-2009, 09:55 PM

This Quest (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Quest:The_Seven_Spheres), along with a crude walkthrough, is now on the wiki (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Quest:The_Seven_Spheres).

Also, reps to Shadowblack for getting the items up before I could! Though it was only because I did the quest first. :P

wetheril

10-31-2009, 09:58 PM

shadowblack

10-31-2009, 09:58 PM

wetheril

10-31-2009, 09:59 PM

I add the items as I get them. I haven't finished the quest yet.

By the way, I could swear that the first statue was 9+, not 11+. In fact, initially ALL statues were 9+ and turned to 11+ after I defeated the first one.

The first statue is indeed 9+ to hit. In fact, even if you didn't get the right statue, they are all initially 9+. They are 11+ onwards after you have defeated the first one.

wetheril

10-31-2009, 11:33 PM

Joddelle

10-31-2009, 11:49 PM

LOL - I was adding the text directions and when I hit submit was told they were already there.

I left yours...

wetheril

10-31-2009, 11:55 PM

LOL - I was adding the text directions and when I hit submit was told they were already there.

I left yours...

LOL! I'll leave it alone now, so if you want to make any other changes, feel free to do so. ;)

Oldschool

11-01-2009, 04:02 AM

@ Joddelle, Shadowblack and Wetheril - this round is on me. ;)

Chain repped with another round to follow when permitted for your wiki contributions.

wetheril

11-02-2009, 02:50 AM

I was wondering if anybody else is encountering the same problem, but Firefox (v 3.5.3) seems to have problems accessing Wikia. The problem started earlier this evening. I tried in Safari just now, and can get to the page. Strange.

zmflavius

11-02-2009, 02:51 AM

If by "problem", you mean that whenever you click on a link or search for something, you get a blank screen, then yes, I have that problem too. I haven't tried any other browsers yet though.

wetheril

11-02-2009, 02:53 AM

If by "problem", you mean that whenever you click on a link or search for something, you get a blank screen, then yes, I have that problem too. I haven't tried any other browsers yet though.

Yes, it is showing up as a blank screen. Same with if you tried to access the Wikia main page.

Edit: Okay, beyond the main page, other pages are not working in Safari either.

Oldschool

11-02-2009, 02:57 AM

Ditto as I was just trying to update the Game Updates. I get the main page fine but if I search it opens another tab and nothing. Also I have a couple pages saved as favorites and the same thing happens as with searching - a blank page.

Incidentally I upgraded to Firefox 3.5.4 recently.

I'm off to try IE 8 and will edit appropriately.

EDIT: Same exact thing with IE 8 whether I'm searching or clicking on anything other than the main page I get a blank page. The only difference is if I try to log in it stays on the main page and says something about errors on the page. The log in issue is also the same with Mozilla Firefox and Internet Explorer.

wetheril

11-02-2009, 02:59 AM

Ditto as I was just trying to update the Game Updates. I get the main page fine but if I search it opens another tab and nothing. Also I have a couple pages saved as favorites and the same thing happens as with searching - a blank page.

Incidentally I upgraded to Firefox 3.5.4 recently.

I'm off to try IE 8 and will edit appropriately.

*grins* Sorry to beat you to punch Oldschool, but I've already updated the Game Updates with today's updates earlier (and added links to the older updates from this month).

thingirl

11-02-2009, 03:00 AM

FF V? (2. something, I think.) doesn't work. Now, where is IE on this only piece of crap/ lifeline?

EDIT: My skills are so bad that I can't even find IE on this comp (and yes, I know it stands for internet explorer).

Oldschool

11-02-2009, 03:09 AM

Just checked some other wiki communities/pages or whatever they are called.

Some are working - so far those that have a different "look" or format than Sryth.

The ones that I try that look like Sryth's via GooglePreview are doing the same thing as Sryth's. Actually I can't even load them at all while I can load the mainpage for Sryth's.

Oldschool

11-02-2009, 03:11 AM

Thingirl if you're running a version of windows you should be able to hit click start and access Explorer from the start up menu or whatever it's called.

If not clicking start then all programs should open up the program list which should have explorer listed.

zmflavius

11-02-2009, 03:13 AM

I'm sure it's not connected to Firefox 3.5.4 (which I just got) since it seems to be a problem with safari and IE too. Has anyone tried google chrome or opera yet?

thingirl

11-02-2009, 03:14 AM

I know that much. It must be the staying up 'till "10:15" (It's 9:13, but with DST ending...) And if course it was staring me in the face. I was looking for a folder. It's an icon.

EDIT: The main page works in IE. (Lord it's confusing, IE. I'll stick with FF.) But when I search for anything ("chr" tested), it's blank. Which is better than what FF does.

Oldschool

11-02-2009, 03:20 AM

Considering it's affecting multiple browsers and other wiki pages of the same version/format I'm guessing it's on the wiki end and we'll have to wait it out.

Oldschool

11-02-2009, 03:23 AM

*grins* Sorry to beat you to punch Oldschool, but I've already updated the Game Updates with today's updates earlier (and added links to the older updates from this month).

That's ok and I figured that as I seen you had edited the updates but I wasn't 100 percent sure since I can't access anything. However, considering the timing of your edit and the announcement it seemed a safe assumption.

wetheril

11-02-2009, 03:23 AM

Thanks for checking into this Oldschool. I agree that it's likely a problem with Wikia, instead of the browsers (or with any of us individually), considering that so many of us are having problems on multiple browsers.

thingirl

11-02-2009, 03:26 AM

OK, I admit it. I broke it by not doing any editing since GO!. ;)

Oldschool

11-02-2009, 03:30 AM

Lol.... I'm just glad it happened before I got in and did any editing no matter how minor as I'd have thought :eek: what did I do - lol.

zmflavius

11-02-2009, 03:35 AM

You think Havoc or Scarbrow might know more about what to do?

wetheril

11-02-2009, 03:45 AM

You think Havoc or Scarbrow might know more about what to do?

Maybe. Scarbrow could contact Wikia's staff, but he's on hiatus right now. Perhaps Havoc might be able to shed a little insight on the problem.

Joddelle

11-02-2009, 04:51 AM

I'm getting the blank pages in firefox 3.15, and in IE 6

the this is the 'source code' of the page, and it seem that google analytics is somehow to blame

<script src="http://www.google-analytics.com/urchin.js" type="text/javascript">
</script>
<script type="text/javascript">
try {
_uacct = "UA-288915-41";
urchinTracker("/varnish/varnish-i7/503");
} catch(err) {}</script>

Oldschool

11-02-2009, 05:04 AM

Actually I'm able to access more of the wiki but still not all of it. The quest list is accessible and some things I click are others aren't. Currently it doesn't seem if there is any rhyme or reason to what can and cannot be accessed. Things seem to be coming back online in some semblance of an order though.

Havoc

11-02-2009, 06:38 AM

Everything appears to be working fine for me.

Oldschool

11-02-2009, 06:05 PM

*grins* Sorry to beat you to punch Oldschool, but I've already updated the Game Updates with today's updates earlier (and added links to the older updates from this month).

Excellent idea in adding the links. I just made an edit doing the same. However, just like the GM Correspondence thread's tables on the old forum I had no clue how to do that but was able to "crib" your work.

wetheril

11-02-2009, 06:20 PM

Excellent idea in adding the links. I just made an edit doing the same. However, just like the GM Correspondence thread's tables on the old forum I had no clue how to do that but was able to "crib" your work.

Thank you very much for moving the post(s) to the correct month. *silly grin* I had a feeling I was missing out on something last night. ;) And I like your note about the GM deleting previous announcements, since I wasn't sure what to do about it at the time.

wetheril

11-13-2009, 02:51 AM

Heir to the Flame (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Quest:Heir_to_the_Flame), as some of you noticed, was work in progress. It is mostly complete now, except for General Information, which I left blank for now until more information about the return to Castle Baleward is made available.

I also want to give a word of thanks to Jimyred, who pointed me to helpful posts on the forum, and a big thank you to all the forum members (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Quest_talk:Heir_to_the_Flame#Credits) who have contributed their observations about the quest.

Scarbrow

11-14-2009, 06:44 PM

Yes, yes, this answer is woefully late, but stil...

Just wanted to remind fellow wiki editors that contacting Wikia is something you can all do. The page is http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contact and they are usually kind and quite quick to answer. Just try to organize yourselves here so they are not flooded with many similar questions.

And about edit conflicts, a couple of reflections:

The general Wikipedia guidelines on edit conflicts (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Edit_conflict)
We have a template to indicate we're taking control of a page for a while, Template:Inuse (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Inuse), if you want to use it.
Remember to preview often while editing

wetheril

11-18-2009, 06:37 AM

Although Scarbrow has posted this announcement on the main page of the Wiki, I thought I'd post it here on the main forum to get more attention for the discussion going on in the Wiki. Please cast a vote, and participate in the discussion.

November 15 2009

There is a voting taking place at Category talk:Candidates for deletion (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Category_talk:Candidates_for_deletion). All users are encouraged to voice their opinion.

wetheril

11-21-2009, 09:16 PM

Just wanted to mention that all quests related to Castle Baleward (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Castle_Baleward) up to The Faces in the Mirror (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Quest:The_Faces_in_the_Mirror) are now up on the Wiki.

I'll likely start on "A Contest of Bows" page fairly soon to cover the first and second archery tournament.

racey

11-21-2009, 09:55 PM

PvG VI scenarios The Ghost Patrol (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Proving_Grounds_VI:_The_Alder_Throne#The_Ghost_Pat rol), A Seer in Shadow (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Proving_Grounds_VI:_The_Alder_Throne#A_Seer_in_Sha dow), and The Chasm of Time (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Proving_Grounds_VI:_The_Alder_Throne#The_Chasm_of_ Time)have been added. I had some bad luck with my secondary running The Chasm of Time so I hope when I run my primary through to be able to edit/add some better information.

MrBlack

11-22-2009, 08:24 AM

Here is something minor to add to PG:V

When you engage Traeltok the second time in The Eyes of Death you recive 396XP he has about 300 SP and is 14+ with MR of 150.

Scarbrow

11-24-2009, 04:47 AM

Here is something minor to add to PG:V

When you engage Traeltok the second time in The Eyes of Death you recive 396XP he has about 300 SP and is 14+ with MR of 150.

From my notes, you only face Traeltok once in that part - and only if you choose to. The wiki (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/PG_V#The_Eyes_of_Death) lists the difficulty at 9 at MR 100. Maybe you're referring to the missing option, Traeltok (unwounded) ?

shadowblack

11-25-2009, 10:53 PM

Hastifer has added Helping Narsaryn‎‎ (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Quest:Helping_Narsaryn) to the wiki

I finished the page for the Valentine's Day 2009 Surprise (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Valentine%27s_Day_2009_Surprise) and made a few changed to the list of Old Quests (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Old_Quests)

scout1idf

11-29-2009, 07:42 AM

I found something on the old forum that I didn't find on the Wiki.

An old one time adventure, Midnight Adventure (http://shadowwolf47.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=srythhelp&action=display&thread=1575), that isn't in the game anymore that some of the old timers (Havoc posted in the thread) might have details on.....

Maybe it's something that the GM would reinstate??

shadowblack

11-29-2009, 11:44 AM

Judgung by what Havic has said in that thread, the Midnight Adventure is just another name for Gralgarak's Tomb quest.

A few posts below there's this:
The 'Midnight Adventure' was a one-time adventure that was available to all those that managed to find its location within an hour of midnight (Sryth Server time) on a pre-specified date.
--------------------
It's still there ;D (Admiring my new emerald bracelet and other new armor) And is it tough!

Email from our wonderful GM:

"Your mention of the midnight adventure (and requests from many players) reminded me to make it available for those who had not yet played it.
You should now be able to access the adventure. If you've conquered the shade goblins in Westwold you will be able to access the adventure by "mingling" in the Stoneback Tavern in Hawklor.

scout1idf

11-29-2009, 04:57 PM

Ok, thanks.....

Oldschool

11-30-2009, 02:27 AM

Either way NICE necrothreading there Scout. :)

racey

12-03-2009, 01:05 AM

Proving Grounds VI - The Chasm of Time, Part 2 (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Proving_Grounds_VI:_The_Alder_Throne#The_Chasm_of_ Time.2C_Part_2) has been added.

MrBlack

12-04-2009, 03:58 AM

From my notes, you only face Traeltok once in that part - and only if you choose to. The wiki (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/PG_V#The_Eyes_of_Death) lists the difficulty at 9 at MR 100. Maybe you're referring to the missing option, Traeltok (unwounded) ?

I was, sorry about not clearing that up sooner :o

racey

12-04-2009, 06:09 PM

Proving Grounds VI- The Chasm of Time, Part 3 (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Proving_Grounds_VI:_The_Alder_Throne#The_Chasm_of_ Time.2C_Part_3) has been added.

shadowblack

12-04-2009, 06:22 PM

Which character did you use when playing the scenario? I'm asking because of this:
Bonuses: Archery (+35- Item:1677 Grand Ashen Bow), Woodsmanship (+20), Agility (+10)

If the character had 100 Archery, then the Archery bonus is Archery x0.25 +10 from the Ashen Bow. If the character had 80 instead, then it is Archery x0.25 +15 from the Ashen Bow
If Woodsmanship was 80, then the Woddsmanship bonus is Woodsmanship x0.25
And Agility bonus is Agility x0.5

Are my guesses correct?

racey

12-04-2009, 07:16 PM

I believe that you are correct. I used my secondary to get the information. His archery level is 87, Woodsmanship is level 81 and Agility is 20.

shadowblack

12-04-2009, 07:31 PM

Before doing anything:
Ctrl+F5

This is how I got of my "you have a new message" after dismissing it - I was just seeing a cashed page.

shadowblack

12-08-2009, 12:40 PM

I added Bone Icon Of The Stag (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Item:1051_Bone_Icon_Of_The_Stag) to the wiki. Without thinking I also added the unidentified version, though I'm not sure if that was really necessary...

Scarbrow

12-08-2009, 01:48 PM

Why not? The only reason the current Icons do not have their Unidentified versions up is I still haven't felt like doing it ;)

shadowblack

12-08-2009, 02:02 PM

Ah, good. Too bad I'm out of unidentified icons, but if I get some that are not on the wiki I'll add them.

Scarbrow

12-09-2009, 03:03 PM

You don't need to acquire new icons, Shadowblack.

As you may have noticed, the Unidentified version has the same Item ID + 1000 and the description is also the same. In short, you can deduce the Unidentified version by looking at the Identified one.

racey

12-09-2009, 03:44 PM

The quest The Horsemen (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Quest:The_Horsemen) has been added. Thanks Wetheril for the help.

Oldschool

12-16-2009, 12:19 AM

Not an update but I thought a little acknowledgement was in order.

From the wiki, "2,600 articles on this wiki".....

Kudos to all the wiki editors. As a very minor cog in the wiki wheel I fully appreciate the hard work of all the contributors - particularly the heavy lifters.

racey

12-19-2009, 05:47 PM

The Chasm of Time, Part 4 (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Proving_Grounds_VI:_The_Alder_Throne#The_Chasm_of_ Time.2C_Part_4) has been added.

wetheril

12-25-2009, 08:28 PM

I've already posted updates of some these in the relevant threads, but I decided, to make it easier to find, here are some key recent updates including links to updates that weren't announced on the Wiki updates thread before:

1. The new Glowing Goblin Winter 2009 Installment - The Broken Hole (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Glowing_Goblin#The_Broken_Hole_-_Winter_2009_Installment).
2. The Obelisk of Winter (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Quest:The_Obelisk_of_Winter) quest page.
3. Scarbrow's Template:ItemName (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Template:ItemName) and Template:ItemID (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Template:ItemID). Of these two templates, I find myself using ItemName a lot! It really saves time having to look up the Item ID of the item in question, when making an item link. Thanks for making those templates and many more to improve editing life, Scarbrow!
4. Spar with Barynbor (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Quest:Spar_with_Barynbor) - it'll need another update now with Oldschool's alts joining the leaderboard.
5. And from a while back: A Contest of Bows (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Quest:A_Contest_of_Bows) covering both the first and second archery tournament.

Oldschool

12-25-2009, 08:42 PM

Nice work Wetheril.

May wanna hold off on the Barynbor update as Esoteric's win isn't showing since Virago's went up. It was at first as I copied/pasted it in "Shameless Bragging". I've logged off cleaned my browser, cache, etc... and relogged with different characters and it's not showing now. Btw, I've notified the GM.

shadowblack

12-31-2009, 11:47 PM

I have updated Explore the realms at random - Hostile Encounters (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Explore_the_realms_at_random#Hostile_Encounters) with the data about some enemies. There's still a lot to add, though.

shadowblack

01-01-2010, 07:25 PM

I have updated The Bog Giant (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Quest:The_Bog_Giant), but see the talk page (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Quest_talk:The_Bog_Giant).

FINISHED!!! All the foe data I had about enemies encountered when exploring the realms at random (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Explore_the_realms_at_random) is now on the wiki. Yay!

Oldschool

01-05-2010, 12:23 AM

Just updated the 'shroom spoiler info on the Fogbough page under Tangled Maze of Thorny Vines.

http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Quest:EXPLORING_Fogbough_Outer_Wood#A_Tangled_Maze _of_Thorny_Vines

Well edited not updated is more like it. Anyhow, I deleted the possible benefits/results of eating green mushrooms and put them under the MR category as all I've gotten from them for quite some time are MR boosts.

shadowblack

01-05-2010, 03:45 PM

Another (small) update to exploring the realms at random (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Explore_the_realms_at_random) - more foe data added.

shadowblack

01-09-2010, 07:30 PM

Final (for the moment) update to exploring the realms at random (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Explore_the_realms_at_random) - more foe data added. Also, I added three more Unidentified Wood Icons and I made a few updates to The Secret of Stoneback Hill (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Quest:The_Secret_of_Stoneback_Hill) (though there are still a few things missing)

shadowblack

01-16-2010, 05:11 PM

It took me a while, but I added all 18 Shadowfire weapons to the wiki.

shadowblack

01-18-2010, 08:53 PM

I made a few small changes to the Trithik Random Encounters (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Trithik#Random_Encounters), and along with it came a few more small changes - one missing item added to the wiki, the places to obtain two items have been updated, and the walkthrough for Dusk Dragon Egg (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Quest:Dusk_Dragon_Egg) was changed a little.

racey

01-22-2010, 06:03 PM

The Chasm of Time, Part 5: Four Against The World (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Proving_Grounds_VI:_The_Alder_Throne#The_Chasm_of_ Time.2C_Part_5:_Four_Against_The_World)has been added.

shadowblack

01-23-2010, 12:30 PM

The Horsemen (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Quest:The_Horsemen) has been updated.

shadowblack

01-24-2010, 05:07 PM

A Village Deserted (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Quest:A_Village_Deserted) has been added to the wiki.

shadowblack

01-28-2010, 12:16 PM

The walkthrough for The Lone Rider (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Quest:The_Lone_Rider) has been updated and now shows all possible paths and outcomes.

Scarbrow

01-28-2010, 02:57 PM

excellent work, shadowblack - there are some of them I had never thought possible. You definitely beat me in the grounds of thoroughness.

shadowblack

01-28-2010, 05:21 PM

Thanks, Scarbrow. I really didn't expect that there would be so many things to investigate in one of the oldest and easiest adventures in the game.

By the way, I made some additions to Sryth Encyclopedia (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Sryth_Encyclopedia). Could you check for mistakes, and also that all items are in alphabetical order? Some were not, to my surprise.

Or better yet, check the attached file and see if everything in it is on the wiki.

P.S.: It's a .doc inside a .rar, but it has been renamed as a .zip because this forum does not allow the upload of .rar files.

Scarbrow

02-04-2010, 08:39 PM

Thanks, Scarbrow. Could you check for mistakes, and also that all items are in alphabetical order? Some were not, to my surprise.

Wow, there was a whole load of terms I didn't had. It's done, I have also ensured the alphabetical sorting.

Or better yet, check the attached file and see if everything in it is on the wiki.

I've also added everything on the file. By the way, you have several duplicated entries, not exhaustively: Trithik, Shadow Path, Takabak, Palo, Charna, Sebaldin, Srythak, Hook-fiend...

Special thanks for the Igranolt (http://www.sryth.com/ci.php?f_c=showinfo.inc&f_infoid=igranolt) reference. Now I'll remember it every time I find a small red gem shard when exploring at random. How did you found it?

And lastly, I've been able to find all of the references in the Reference System but the "Milestone Combat Contest Prizes" one. What is the name of the node?

shadowblack

02-04-2010, 08:54 PM

I was adding info to that file without checking if the info was already there, based only on my memories about what I had added previously, so it's not surprising there are some duplicates.

Looking at the info for the Milestone Combat Contest Prizes I found this link: http://www.sryth.com/ci.php?f_c=showinfo.inc&f_infoid=contestprizes

Luckily the link was in the text itself so I didn't have to guess.

I need to check my other files for info entries since at some point I stopped using a separate file for them and started adding them to the regular ones.

Oldschool

02-04-2010, 09:28 PM

W:eek:W...... Nice work guys and thanks for the links Shadowblack.

Iirc the Milestone Combat Contest was for explore the realms at random encounters and the winner was the one who won the specific numbered encounter - which if I recall wasn't known at the time of the contest.

Also a few of those prizes seem to have found their way into Tallys.

Well I can't stand it so I'm off to necrothread......

EDIT: From the Adventurers Tokens page of the wiki,

There was a race to the five millionth combat fought. Those who guessed the milestone number (5 million) or who had fought 100 combats that day would win a silver boost pack, which included 8 Adv Tokens. Those who were one of the ten people who fought a battle before the milestone received a gold boost pack, which included 16 Adv Tokens. The person who fought the milestone combat (Maghnosius) won a platinum boost pack, which included 24 Adv Tokens.

Also according to the thread the winner got to choose from a list of prizes in addition to the above.

Edit2: Seems I've not only necrothreaded and necrotreaded but posted there as well (note the next to last post). I knew I'd heard or read about this before. Again here's the link. For "newer" folks to view this thread on the old forum you'll have to register on that forum.

http://shadowwolf47.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=talk&thread=665&page=1

I'm creating another thread with a poll for discussions relating to the contest. Here's the link, http://www.srythforum.com/showthread.php?t=754

shadowblack

02-04-2010, 09:38 PM

I added three more things to the encyclopedia, including the info for the Milestone combat contest.

By the way, it wasn't limited to exploring the realm at random - ANY combat counted, as long as you won (if you fled or died it did not count - I specifically asked the GM about that). I wasn't AG at the time and thus did not have access to Explore the Realms at Random (back then that was AG only) so I used Trithik random encounters (since I had no adventures left).

Scarbrow

02-05-2010, 08:52 PM

Time to brag... :D

The new template Check (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Check) is ready. I expect it will be (almost) as useful as the old Template Foe has been.

shadowblack

02-12-2010, 06:08 PM

The River Pirates (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Quest:The_river_pirates) walkthrough has been added (previously there was no walkthrough).

racey

02-20-2010, 05:17 PM

The scenario The Alder Throne, Part 1 (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Proving_Grounds_VI:_The_Alder_Throne#The_Alder_Thr one.2C_Part_1) has been added.

Oldschool

02-20-2010, 05:29 PM

Thanks Racey as it seems that it's wrapping up I will probably be taking advantage of that though not at first.

My plan (if I can stick to it) is to run my alts through first before committing Hawk to it. I don't figure on looking at the thread or wiki page on my first run for spoiler purposes. The hard decision will be to pick which alt to be the guinea pig.

Scarbrow

02-23-2010, 06:39 AM

Young Ned

02-23-2010, 09:17 PM

I have published in the wiki the spreadsheet I've been using to make the maps. I've improved it a lot and I expect it will be useful for all wiki editors. More info (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Sryth_Wiki:Maps_spreadsheet)

I looked at some of the maps you've created that way... very nice! I've used Excel to create several maps in the wiki (see, for example, the maps in The Dungeons of Saarngard (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Quest%3AThe_Dungeons_of_Saarngard) and The Dragon Statue (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Quest:The_Dragon_Statue)), but your format is cleaner than mine. And I'm sure the macros will save a lot of time; I had to do all the formatting manually in mine.

Unfortunately, my current computer doesn't have Excel, only the OpenOffice equivalent, and that doesn't handle Excel macros well at all -- I haven't yet found a spreadsheet with macros that it CAN process, actually. So I probably won't be able to use your spreadsheet to clean up the maps I've created, until such time as I can get my desktop machine working again... which probably won't be any time soon. :(

I still have the original spreadsheets for those maps, though, so I could email them to anyone who wants to use Scarbrow's spreadsheet to clean them up.

shadowblack

02-26-2010, 12:00 AM

Ornate Granite Ring (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Item:1184_Ornate_Granite_Ring) has been added to the wiki. It appears to be another unknown raffle prize from the Treasures of the Ice Lord (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Tallys%27_Raffles/Treasures_of_the_Ice_Lord). It is currently owned by a character named Trogg, but there are several such characters, so the exact owner is unknown (he was no longer online when I checked his character through There are other adventurers in this location... in Trithik).

EDIT: Found the owner: Trogg is from the adventurer roster of ShadowDragon (http://www.sryth.com/p/?1afb0exce26cece)

Scarbrow

02-26-2010, 05:26 AM

EDIT: Found the owner: Trogg is from the adventurer roster of ShadowDragon (http://www.sryth.com/p/?1afb0exce26cece)

Then he's Trogg, the legend!. One of the finalist of the Festival of Blades!. Oh, how I wish we could contact him to bring him here...

zmflavius

02-26-2010, 01:21 PM

Then he's Trogg, the legend!. One of the finalist of the Festival of Blades!. Oh, how I wish we could contact him to bring him here...

I vaguely recall seeing a shadowdragon on the old forum. Vaguely...

Email:elementalultima@hotmail.com
AIM: elementalblades0 (aim:goim?screenname=elementalblades0&message=Hello)
YIM: bladestorm360
MSN: kicrush@hotmail.com

Courtesy of the old forum member list. Assuming shadowdragon on the old forum = Trogg.

thingirl

03-06-2010, 11:53 PM

I said this already, but it bears mentioning again, as it is the first quest I added to the wiki. The Crumbling Tower (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Quest:The_Crumbling_Tower) is now up :)

Also going with a person's first quest is all the mistakes she makes. Please fix those.

shadowblack

03-12-2010, 06:21 PM

I finally got off my lazy... er, I mean I finally stopped being lazy and added April Fools 2009 event (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Old_Quests#April_Fools_2009_event) to the wiki. I added it to the Old Quests page instead of making it into its own page, and created a redirect for it, just in case.

EDIT: Also, the three (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Item:1749_Iron-Studded_Sorcerer%27s_Sash) new (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Item:1750_Emerald-Studded_Sorcerer%27s_Sash) sashes (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Item:1748_Ruby-Studded_Sorcerer%27s_Sash) now available at Tallys' have been added to the wiki.

racey

03-14-2010, 03:09 PM

The Alder Throne, Part 2 (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Proving_Grounds_VI:_The_Alder_Throne#The_Alder_Thr one.2C_Part_2) has been added.

shadowblack

03-19-2010, 09:09 AM

I have added Goblin Fang Ring (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Item:1642_Goblin_Fang_Ring) to the wiki.

Thingirl has added some info on A Dark Prelude (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Quest:A_Dark_Prelude) (the rest will be added later).

thingirl

03-19-2010, 02:54 PM

I just added The Razing of Kolnia (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Quest:The_Razing_of_Kolnia)

The formatter still hates me though :(.

shadowblack

03-19-2010, 03:08 PM

I did a few edits and also removed the rewards from the Walkthrough section.

thingirl

03-19-2010, 03:18 PM

Thanks, Shadowblack.

Also, the next adventure is NOT North of the Village. It's this (http://www.srythforum.com/showthread.php?t=714). What should we call it? I vote for something like "On the Road to Hawklor". That's because it is accessed by entering Hawklor by horse/foot, and the events happen on the road.

shadowblack

03-19-2010, 03:23 PM

"On the Road to Hawklor" seems fine to me.

thingirl

03-19-2010, 05:08 PM

OK, It's (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Quest:On_the_Road_to_Hawklor) up. Stupid formatter still hates me as far as I can tell.

shadowblack

03-19-2010, 05:20 PM

This time there wasn't much to fix. :)

thingirl

03-19-2010, 10:19 PM

North of the Village (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Quest:North_of_the_Village) has been added.

EDIT: And so has A Brief Encounter (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Quest:A_Brief_Encounter).

shadowblack

03-20-2010, 10:47 AM

Good job. I made a few minor changes here and there. :)

thingirl

03-20-2010, 06:40 PM

A Marked Champion (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Quest:A_Marked_Champion), The Wagon (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Quest:The_Wagon), Alls's Well that Ends... (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Quest:All%27s_Well_that_Ends...), and Dawn in Hawklor (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Quest:Dawn_in_Hawklor) are now up.

thingirl

03-21-2010, 07:31 PM

The Trail of The Hawk (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Quest:The_Trail_of_The_Hawk) and Item 1751 Tattered Scrap of Paper (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Item:1751_Tattered_Scrap_Of_Paper) are up.

Oldschool

03-21-2010, 09:56 PM

Kudos and associated reps to Thingirl for her wiki work.

thingirl

03-24-2010, 02:36 PM

Thanks, Oldschool.

-------

A Rough Spot (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Quest:A_Rough_Spot) is up. And unrealated to that, Urumyr's return (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Zumryn%27s_battlegrounds#Visit_a_sprawling_maze_of _tents_to_the_northwest_.28AG.29) and the item (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Item:1752_Cloth_Map_Fragment) he gives you are up.

Scarbrow

03-24-2010, 03:00 PM

Yeah, reps from me too, Thingirl, you're making a great job out there. I won't check them until I've played them, but I see Shadowblack is supervising, so they should be perfectly OK.

My present playing and editing hiatus is nearing its end. I'll soon come back in full might.

shadowblack

03-24-2010, 03:19 PM

Bone Icon of Deadly Flame (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Item:1055_Bone_Icon_Of_Deadly_Flame) (and its Unidentified version (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Item:2055_Unidentified_Bone_Icon)) have been added to the wiki.

racey

04-11-2010, 06:44 PM

The Alder Throne, Part 3 (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Proving_Grounds_VI:_The_Alder_Throne#The_Alder_Thr one.2C_Part_3) has been added.

I apologize in advance for the map that is displayed as it is the best I could come up with due to several reasons (all of them too long/boring to explain).

shadowblack

04-20-2010, 12:41 PM

The wiki pages for the following items have been added/updated:
Mossy Tabard
Oaken Scale Tabard
Blazing Fire Shield
Cloak of Shivers
Black Rose Breastplate
Bejeweled Mask of Deception
Bone Mask of Deception
Swordmaster's Chain Cloak
Iron Mask of Deception

thingirl

05-11-2010, 01:48 AM

There's a new event in Hawklor, and It's up (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Quest:Somewhere_on_the_road_to_Hawklor).

Oldschool

05-14-2010, 04:14 AM

Just a "new" edited post (old one deleted) since everything's been confirmed.

Thanks to everyone for the info particularly Glowworm.

-Type|-BM Value|-Item ID
Common|-2|-1763
Uncommon|-4|-1764
Rare|-6|-1765
Very Rare|-8|-1766
Extremely Rare|-12|-1767
Renowned|-16|-1768
Legendary|-24|-1769
Mythical |-32|-1770

Looks like they can and have been drops wherever random items can be loot - whether it be replayable or single run stuff.

The Aldvarian Artifact thread, http://www.srythforum.com/showthread.php?t=980

And thanks again to Scout as well - tables are easier on the eyes.

thingirl

05-18-2010, 07:58 PM

Snake

05-18-2010, 08:05 PM

SSL is now sellable. I found out when I went to Mirgspill after changing my 7 Goblins bonous to Gorapthor's Avenger. See attached screenshot. I have updated this on the wiki.

Question: are any of the other SS or Iakors' weapons sellable now and what is there value?

Yes. I have Iakor's Cape and here it is.

lakor's Cape value: 38,000

Also TG how did you get that A very Hungry Worm weapon.

thingirl

05-18-2010, 08:09 PM

Yes. I have Iakor's Cape and here it is.

Thanks for checking on that. However, I asked about the weapons because up until now, the weapons have been unsellable, whereas the armor has been sellable.

Also TG how did you get that A very Hungry Worm weapon.

It's my Imbuable sword. :)

Snake

05-18-2010, 08:34 PM

It's my Imbuable sword. :)

Thanks. I never knew that you could name your Imbuable items.

thingirl

05-18-2010, 08:49 PM

Yeah, you can. Just click the USE button in any SAFE spot. Then click on name this weapon.

zmflavius

05-18-2010, 08:54 PM

I need to get an imbuable weapon...

Snake

05-18-2010, 08:57 PM

I did. I changed my sword to this.

Sword Of Serpents (Use)

* Class: Weapon, Slashing
* Encumbrance: 8
* Quality: Imbuable
* Power: Deadly Flame
* Melee Rating: +4
- - - - - -
Affixed Nevernal Icons:
* Bone Icon of Deadly Flame

I have more icons but none of them are bone like this one and I'm only adding it with bone icons. The name is from my character Snake.

thingirl

05-18-2010, 09:03 PM

Cool, Snake.

Does anyone have any info in the other SS weapons sellable status?

Lyrehc

05-18-2010, 09:03 PM

I have always found that I can sell my Shimmering/Iakor's weapons as long as they aren't the ones with the bonus from 7 goblins.

ETA - there have been times that I've had that bonus assigned to Trielra's Staff, and when that has happened I could sell my other weapons.

thingirl

05-18-2010, 09:06 PM

Oh, duh. I'm dumb.:o No, not dumb, just slow.

But still, we shouldn't assume that all the SS weapons have the same value...

Oldschool

05-19-2010, 12:01 AM

I have more icons but none of them are bone like this one and I'm only adding it with bone icons. The name is from my character Snake.

Snake don't know if you know this but you can remove icons from weapons or armour for that matter. See Lothren in Talinus and I think it's 64 xp per icon removed. It's in the wiki btw.

thingirl

05-19-2010, 12:04 AM

64 XP per item (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Lothren).

Oldschool

05-19-2010, 12:10 AM

The discussion about selling Iakor/SS weapons reminded me about this,

On the topic of Mezaryl, I went to her before I had Tzal-Toalth, and let her look at my items. I had one of the items that i could later trade for the gem for Tzal-Toalth, (I think it was Wraithking's Sceptre) and she offered to buy it from me for gold and ATs (I think 16 ATs) I didn't do it, because there was an option to use Diplomacy 70+ to ask for more money, and mine wasn't that high at the time. I went back when it was, but I had Tzal-Toalth, and the option to sell was no longer available, just trade for the gem. Has anyone else seen this?

Scarbrow

05-21-2010, 05:27 PM

I'm changing the names of the recently-added Aldvarian artifacts to all words capitalized as seen on How_to_document_Items_and_Quests#Item_page_name_co nventions (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/How_to_document_Items_and_Quests#Item_page_name_co nventions).

I'm quite sure we had a discussion time ago about why it should be this way, but I'm unable to find it (and I've searched). The only reference I found was this one (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Item_talk%3A211_Emerald_Bracelet). Does any wiki editor remember more about it?

shadowblack

05-21-2010, 05:33 PM

The reason was that this is the way the names are displayed when viewing the item info. HOWEVER the names for the Aldvarian Artifacts are displayed in the game the same way they written are on the wiki. My guess for that is that "(uncommon)" starts with a "(" which is the same when capitallized, with the "u" counting as a second letter and thus not capitalized. This results in weird-looking names such as "Aldvarian Artifact (very Rare)‎‎".

thingirl

05-21-2010, 05:40 PM

Or, think about it this way. The items are "Aldvarian Artifact" followed by a value indication the condition and how many BMs they are worth.

Also, they are listed as "Aldvarian Artifact (value)" when picking them up, on the inventory list, when putting them in and taking them out of storage at you residance, at Trynd Keep and Durnsig, and when selling stuff. No where is it listed as "Aldvarian Artifact (Value)".

Scarbrow

05-21-2010, 07:07 PM

I supposed that was why they were written that way, but what I meant was to remember the details of why did we established that policy, apart from items which show differently on several screens (although I think that is reason enough to have a clear-cut policy on wiki item names, even if the GM is usually less strict with that).

We already have a lot of items (in particular, items with lowercase prepositions like "Blade of the Fox" we've rewritten as "Blade Of The Fox", so changing Aldvarian Artifacts to match this was a matter of keeping consistency among all the names.

Arakin

05-22-2010, 02:36 PM

But still, we shouldn't assume that all the SS weapons have the same value...

Hi there, Thingirl. I have the Shimmering Silver Spear, and it did become sellable (for 109,000 gold too) after I switched the +2 MR bonus to my new default weapon.

thingirl

05-22-2010, 03:00 PM

Thanks.

Scarbrow

05-25-2010, 01:42 AM

Not really an update, but I found a site you can view stats about other sites. I ran it on our wiki (http://www.quantcast.com/sryth.wikia.com) and the result is surprising. I really didn't expected an average of 40k page views a month!

Curiously, the rough estimate for sryth.com (http://www.quantcast.com/sryth.com) is even a little bit lower, until some moment on 2010 when traffic started to flow in a lot. Maybe that's the reason for the new server?

Young Ned

05-25-2010, 06:16 AM

Oldschool

05-25-2010, 12:14 PM

Good point Young Ned about the spiders as we seem to have a fair amount of them on the forum - mostly indexing things it seems.

And I really need to cut down on my coffee intake it seems 'cause when I read "anomalous spikes" I thought.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaoXWcXg-mA

Young Ned

05-25-2010, 09:03 PM

Only you, Oldschool... :rolleyes: :)

Oldschool

05-25-2010, 11:14 PM

Well even for a "Spike" he fits the adjective. ;)

spencer

05-27-2010, 01:36 AM

Minor editing to Saarn Howl, the second PG VI adventure. I added what happens if you let Owl take the first watch on the ship.

shadowblack

06-06-2010, 10:49 AM

I've created a wiki page for A Dark Cave (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/A_Dark_Cave). Since this encounter is available in several locations I figured it is best to give it its own page and link it from other pages.

shadowblack

06-08-2010, 01:56 PM

Rokmokkara's Bejeweled Belt (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Item:1778_Rokmokkara%27s_Bejeweled_Belt) has been added to the wiki (at last).

shadowblack

06-12-2010, 09:37 AM

The Old North Wood (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Old_North_Wood) page has been updated following the recent area update

Lyrehc

06-13-2010, 08:27 PM

Both sites seem to show a huge spike around February, which doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Was that around the time we started seeing a large number of "guests" (spider bots) here at the forum? Maybe the spiders followed links from here to the wiki and sryth.com and it was their traffic that caused the anomalous spikes?

I joined Sryth in February. I don't know if the GM was doing so before but that's when I started seeing ads on FB. If the marketing increased it would make sense that forum traffic would increase too.

Scarbrow

06-16-2010, 12:27 AM

After some time of unavailability when it's been read-only, the Sryth wiki is up for editing again.

shadowblack

06-16-2010, 03:58 PM

The wiki page (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Ulgror) about Ulgror has been created, though some details have not been added yet.

EDIT: Ulgror has been added to the Replayablelist template as well.

shadowblack

06-26-2010, 07:06 PM

The wiki page about Phak-Rur (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Phak-Rur) has been created (although there's not much to add yet).

shadowblack

07-16-2010, 07:57 PM

The five (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Item:1793_Winteriron_Mask) new (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Item:1794_Winteriron_Gauntlets) limited-time (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Item:1795_Winteriron_Sleeves) winteriron (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Item:1796_Winteriron_Greaves) items (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Item:1797_Winteriron_Shield) have been added to the wiki.

Arakin

07-30-2010, 05:21 PM

Hi. The quest page for this adventure, which I've taken the liberty of calling "The Circle of the Wolf", has been added to the wiki here (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Quest:The_Circle_of_the_Wolf).

Still missing from the quest page are info on the Wolf's MR at lower levels, specials and anti-magic (which I didn't think to take note of before, though Shadowblack likely has this covered) and the "tips" section.

shadowblack

07-30-2010, 06:16 PM

Looking at the available info it seems like the wolf's MR increases by 15 points with each level.

kzero

08-01-2010, 06:05 AM

Nice work on the new page and all the updates you've done to the wiki, Arakin (MM)!

shadowblack

08-07-2010, 12:33 PM

Arakin

08-11-2010, 09:26 AM

The page for the Bloodrune Collection raffle (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Battle_Marker_Raffles/Bloodrune_Collection) has been created. All that's left is to create the item pages (which I can't do right now).

Hi. Thanks for starting the page, Shadowblack. I've added the item pages. The itemboxes can be seen at a glance here (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Battle_Marker_Raffles/Bloodrune_Collection#Prizes).

shadowblack

08-11-2010, 09:36 AM

Thanks for creating the item pages, Arakin!

Scarbrow

08-11-2010, 09:25 PM

I've added the long-lost unique items from Blacklake Keep (Festival of Blades). My public thanks to Shadowdragon (Trogg) for his help on this matter.

Oldschool

08-11-2010, 10:55 PM

Kudos to all as he runs off to snoop look at Trogg's stuff. ;)

shadowblack

08-19-2010, 06:24 PM

I made a few edits to Quest List (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Quest_List) and a few location pages. Now most quests (including the new ones) are automatically transcluded on Quest List. Some are still missing, though, for various reasons.

Scarbrow

08-21-2010, 11:29 PM

I've added a certain amount of new items from the Bloodrune Collection. Any help in completing it would be much appreciated, I don't have more time today.

I've also noticed the Item IDs of level 5 Bloodrune Items do not match the ones which were raffled. I've sent a report to the GM to clear this, and I would advice not to duplicate entries until we get a confirmation. Instead, note down the new ID on the preceeding Level 5 item.

Update: The GM answered:
[...]Yes, the items from the raffle have different ID number than those
currently in the trading post as the raffle items aren't eligible to be
returned to the trading post, etc. Apart from the different ID number,
the items are identical with regard to stats and bonuses.[...]

So we have confirmation we'll need to fill the new ID pages. And that the items won from the raffle are not eligible to give a huge AT bonus, which is of course a good thing, since free ATs are always more valuable than any single object you can buy with them.

Scarbrow

12-10-2010, 08:09 PM

I have finally completed uploading the Bloodrune Collection (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Bloodrune_Collection). I've only taken 3 months to do it. Should give you and idea of the size of my backlog of pending tasks (and not just in the wiki).

Tetracapillactomist

12-13-2010, 10:33 AM

Talk about dedication! I wonder how you manage, all things considered - life, templates, data, organizing, communicating, playing... last I glanced, you wiki-edit count was nearing 6,000 (am I right?); that alone sends my mind into a vertigo-induced freefall.:)

Mind, I haven't been looking at statistics on the wiki, and obviously others - possibly (probably) many others - are owed everlasting gratitude by players of Sryth for all their work; not flattering: without the wiki, I'd be doomed to endless disappointing discoveries, surprises, frustration and - ultimately - restarts or even quitting (?), while trying to capitalize on the rewards, since in many cases there are no "do-overs", nor multiple saves.

I love to experiment, but various constraints can make that highly "unprofitable", dearly paid and frustrating, maybe infuriating... Any, who peruse the wiki without appreciating the work and the people behind it, may well be inconsequential fools not worth considering.

(Exception from this last remark is automatically granted those reckless and real adventurers who jump into the abyss unseen, come what may. Of course, that might easily turn into an expensive path, and such reckless adventurers may well have to follow texlaw's suggestion and improve their status in life just to be able to donate prodigiously...;))

I'd been lost and "up Hades's creek without a wiki" [sic] :rolleyes:, were it not for the wiki - a most special laurel goes to the co-operative effort of Joddelle's and yours, Scarbrow, for the Character Startup Guide.

Two, three hundred additional reps might be considered insufficient for all the work, including the "managing" of lesser wiki demons (insignificant imps? - this one is directed solely at myself! Unless anyone wants to share the charge...:D), like myself...

I'll supply one rep right now, if allowed (I should still have some room to manoeuvre...), and should probably set to check the contributors' list and likewise reward all others as well...

Thank you all.

Oldschool

12-13-2010, 01:44 PM

A big ole DITTO re: the sentiments expressed TC.

For without the wiki many folks including yours truly would've seen a learning curve much like http://www.gottabemobile.com/wp-content/uploads/learning_curve4.jpg

With that said I'm now seeing You have given out too much Reputation in the last 24 hours, try again later. so the rest will have to wait till I recharge.

Scarbrow

12-13-2010, 09:42 PM

Flattery... I have a weak spot for that . Who hasn't?

Answering your first question, I manage my time by means of extreme multitasking. I can do three, even four things at a time in Real Life. In front of a computer, I can do a dozen or more. It all depends on the concentration needed. I also free time from traditional occupations: I concentrate housekeeping tasks on a single day, often I sleep as little as I'm able, I eat quickly, I cook simple recipes. I walk fast, I commute on the fastest routes, and I read books on my way (I can't stop reading). But above all, I don't watch TV. At all. I read newspapers online. And I can use the net at work, so I do it as much as I can while adequately covering my post (again, more multitasking). I spend a quite large portion of my Internet time on Sryth. And about playing... I haven't played almost any new adventure from the beginning of 2009, saved the temporary ones. The wiki has absorbed all my energy.

But don't think I live a life of self-sacrifice. I enjoy metagaming as much as actual playing, maybe even more. And I have accomplished several large metagaming projects, many of them related to programming in some way or another (the combat mechanics investigation, the parsing and convert of the whole old forum, the (failed) attempt to create a Tallys auto-optimizer (I have a prototype which can equip you decently, but an expert player can still do better by hand), the Character creation investigation, and of course the wiki migration, upgrade and maintenance, plus the templates and more). Some of these projects are not complete. Some of them are still in progress. The bad part about the multitasking is that often a project will languish for months at a time until I pick it again. I have literally dozens of such projects, both in and out of Sryth. The good part is that by doing this, I'm never in the position to say "I have nothing to do", although a few times I find myself wondering "What do I do from all these options?", or even "I don't feel like doing any of these things", although the latter is a rare event, and most often it just indicates that I'm tired.

So that's the secret behind my huge edit count: I enjoy editing and documenting (a part of metagaming) so I do it much, so I spend a lot of time, and I don't stop to do it, day by day. Shadowblack and me (and Oldschool to a certain extent) are the only editors (that I can remind now) who keep contributing steadily, although we have benefited from a lot of small contributions and several high-profile creativity ourbursts in the past who have greatly helped what the Sryth Wiki is now. Havoc, Joddelle, K!Zero, Young Ned, Hastifer, Wetheril, Octarinemage come to mind right now. Mercury McKinnon has been pretty active lately. And now you, Tetracapillactomist. Hope it lasts and you don't burn out.

However, I have a secret pride: For all my edits, I could have a lot, lot more. And my secret pride is: whenever possible, I try to do all edits to a page at once. Yes, even for large pages. Even for the Quest List or the Proving Grounds. For each five, ten or twenty edits you log to a long Proving Grounds review, I log one or two. And even with that, I'm close to 6,000 edits. We have so little editing activity, that I almost never find myself on an editing conflict. Although a lot of the edits come from the complex templates, when I have no other option than save to let changes propagate to other pages. And of course, creating between 1,500 and 2,000 item pages myself helped a lot, even if all the loot was created with a second account labeled as bot (doesn't show in Recent Changes). I'm everywhere (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Editcount/Scarbrow)! :cool:

On other news, we finally have the updated database dump (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Statistics). 150 MB of uncompressed XML with all page revisions. 20 Mb compressed. I just have to receive an answer from Shoutwiki and another one from the GM, and the migration can begin.

Yeah, the Wiki Updates thread is my personal bragging playground :p

Young Ned

12-13-2010, 10:07 PM

Your working style actually sounds kind of like the GM's -- he, too, has lots of unfinished projects in progress at any given time. ;)

At any rate, you've done a ton of work on the wiki, far more than anyone else I know. Far more than I have, certainly; I haven't had time for much of anything wiki-related since around the time it moved from PBwiki to Wikia. Thanks for all you do!

Tetracapillactomist

12-19-2010, 10:42 PM

Flattery... I have a weak spot for that . Who hasn't?

Short reply: "I beg your pardon!?" ;)

That's the answer you would've got, Scarbrow, had you not implicitly questioned my motives... :D

As you did, however... here's a slight elaboration:

It wasn't flattery ('sucking up' for fun and profit makes my skin crawl and my body shudder - without a hint of exaggeration!)... My thinking was: who would have done the work, if not you? Would the wiki be as useful and usable as it is? Who'd step in, were you to say one day: "I had my fill"?

This, for the record, is Oxford's short definition of flattery or [to] flatter: "praise that is not sincere, especially in order to obtain something from somebody". Other ones are: "exaggerated or insincere praise", "undue compliment; overpraise, esp. for gain or advantage", "inspire [a person] with hope, esp. unduly", etc.

Rather I and my post didn't come across that way. :)
(There are other, more subtle and gentler meanings, but the overriding adjectives trumping all others are "undue", undeserved, exaggerated...)

As I'm sure both Young Ned and Oldschool would attest, there is nothing about the praise that's "undue".

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@all (everybody): as far as "reps" go (regardless of their real or perceived worth), I took a practical approach: numbers, probability (without the formulae, only by 'winging it') and a dollop of conjecture (without dragging out the formulae, that was unavoidable...):

-users receive reps based on content posted on the forum;

-they average anywhere from ~0.1 (all the way up) to ~0.8 reps (this latter ratio of 19 reps to 23 posts belongs to Zen And Tonic, incidentally), with most commonly encountered ratios in the 0.2 to 0.4 range (I have no time right now to do a proper "survey", so I took about 26 random samples from among users whose rep count is greater than 10, with preference given to totals of at least 20 - Z&T remained only to provide the upper limit);

-in order for you to be awarded the number of reps you arguably deserve for your body of work represented by the wiki as a whole, you'd have to post bragging messages after each edit worth mentioning - notice too that I didn't post a single such message, which should tell you what I myself think of my wiki edits :)[shrug] (with the singular exception of the post related to Varkyn's Ring, which was a minuscule edit, but carried the GM's message, and that too was posted only at your request - with me being shy and all:))... I can tell who the real maven is;);

-being cautiously conservative (i.e., negative:)), let's round downward - to 5,000 edits; keeping in mind that users have posted relatively modest additions, while Scarbrow counts entire pages as a single edit, that really is a conservative estimate, even if we include the edits he did announce...

-all that's left to do, is to multiply the provisional estimates: for 5,000 edits posted, the multiplier's the only debatable variable; to put it simply: how many reps per 100 posts? There are some dozen ways to calculate averages, the formulae of which would be a surefire way to send some running and render others comatose (if I haven't already achieved that...:o).

In the end, it's easier if I show three figures based on factual, simple averages (among the 26 users I checked):

averages|-min.|Scarbrow's own|-max.
rep/post |-0.081|-0.474|-0.826
total reps|-405|-2,370|-4,130

(Even the minimal ratio is 100-200 reps higher than the 200-300 I suggested!)

I rest my case. ;)

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Shadowblack and me (and Oldschool to a certain extent) are the only editors (that I can remind now) who keep contributing steadily, although we have benefited from a lot of small contributions and several high-profile creativity ourbursts in the past who have greatly helped what the Sryth Wiki is now. Havoc, Joddelle, K!Zero, Young Ned, Hastifer, Wetheril, Octarinemage come to mind right now. Mercury McKinnon has been pretty active lately. And now you, Tetracapillactomist. Hope it lasts and you don't burn out.

However, I have a secret pride: For all my edits, I could have a lot, lot more. And my secret pride is: whenever possible, I try to do all edits to a page at once. Yes, even for large pages. Even for the Quest List or the Proving Grounds. For each five, ten or twenty edits you log to a long Proving Grounds review, I log one or two.

Somehow, that secret wasn't able to hide from me.:p:rolleyes:

But I wouldn't dream suggesting that we're in the same league - nor even in the same neighbourhood'

Concerning my wiki edits, the "motto" of the project (and of Wikipedia and all wiki-related branches and progenitors in general) sticks in mind:

"Be bold!" - and I interpreted it this way: if you have potentially helpful information, verified data, facts, explanations or clarifications: enter them! It's so easy, so 'direct', so straightforward - no applications needed, no waiting for approvals, no triplicates, no endless debates... you know something - share it;

in fact I started adding some time before registering - after registering, I noticed the edit counter, and the fact that it kept track and displayed the number of my edits in a great big font size at the top of my "Talk" page initially annoyed me (as if nagging me by stating "too much!", "too little!", "do more!", "do less!"), so I decided to ignore it and tried to counteract it by marking every edit as "minor" whenever I remembered, regardless of its extent - but that goes against global wiki policy, so I ceased doing it;

now it's become the leading edit counter in spite of me, hence the 'governing' wiki of my unified account. It is also the first game-related wiki I ever used (or even visited) - a status it still holds.

The main thing, as far as my thoughts progressed on the subject, is that the information be as precise, complete and helpful to somebody craving needing, craving it, as is possible - and the wiki is ideal for such a purpose: all centralized, easily accessible, easily located collection of facts and relevant, often essential information;

I figured that any shred of additional data would be most needed and helpful there, so that became my initial focus - but initially I wasn't recording the events, so I had to enter them on the spot, documenting my progress while playing the game for the first time - a bit tricky...

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Hm - what you say about your MO also holds true for me, by and large (in some ways surprisingly so - I have flags flying all over the place; when things lag in one area (and my interest with it), when one flag is 'half-masted', I go and raise another.

I do watch television - used to be hooked on all things automotive (F1, BTCC, DTM, TOCA, AUS-V8, special events like Targa New Zealand, the Goodwood Festivals and Revivals, Mille Miglia, etc.); although "watching" doesn't describe it well, as such things were mostly in the background. I gave up that package - these days I tend to have TV 5 in the background...

I sometimes wonder what is meant by boredom or sighs accompanied by claims of having nothing to do - but that's a potential dissertation, not a post... whether boredom is just a temporary bout of depression... but these things are complex and dependent on so many factors (cultural, socio-economic, environmental, psychological), that I rather not get bogged down in it now, as I'm not in the right mind-set to have an insight on the subject...

After all, I'm trying - and ought to - keep this post short...:eek::D
Did you say something?...

P.S.
@Scar (again...): It's ultimately up to you, Scarbrow, but considering the excruciating aspects of this post, I suggest that next time you (and all others, for that matter) graciously accept my sincere and (sometimes?) pragmatic compliments, accolades, and praises - without calling them flattery and me, a flatterer... ;)

(Footnote: credit for my little grid is due all those who have done the research and contributed by posting their questions or results on tables, namely: scout1idf, Havoc, Joddelle, Young Ned, thingirl and Elrond; I apologize if there were others, but they were the posters whose contribution helped me - most especially scout's. Thank you.)

Voilà, chères mesdames, mesdemoiselles et chers messieurs, c'est tout! :p Fin de ce petit message... enfin!:D

Happy or Merry Christmas, Feliz Navidad, Joyeux Noël, Boldog Karácsonyi Ünnepeket, etc., etc.

Oldschool

12-20-2010, 12:40 AM

As I'm sure both Young Ned and Oldschool would attest, there is nothing about the praise that's "undue".

Big resounding ditto.

(Footnote: credit for my little grid is due all those who have done the research and contributed by posting their questions or results on tables, namely: scout1idf, Havoc, Joddelle, Young Ned, thingirl and Elrond; I apologize if there were others, but they were the posters whose contribution helped me - mosy especially scout's. Thank you.)

Long posts and learning table making from others particularly Scout (http://www.srythforum.com/showthread.php?p=21821&postcount=37). I'm having one of those deja vu moments again. ;)

Scarbrow

12-20-2010, 07:36 AM

I'm afraid it's me who must beg your pardon, Tetracapillactomist. While my mastery of English is already reasonable, I still fail to grasp some of the nuances. I thought "flattery" to mean "great compliments and congratulations", as in "imitation is the sincerest form of flattery", not undue/undeserved. No offense meant, of course, and in the future I will (more or less try to) graciously accept any kind of compliments, accolades, and praises. Who am I kidding? I love them

Thank you everybody for your support. You know you rock, don't you? :)

Young Ned

12-21-2010, 01:36 AM

I thought "flattery" to mean "great compliments and congratulations", as in "imitation is the sincerest form of flattery", not undue/undeserved.

I think what you may have missed is that the phrase "imitation is the sincerest form of flattery" implies that all the other forms of flattery are less sincere and therefore less deserved or undeserved... so we tend to view flattery in general as insincere and undeserved. Deserved compliments and congratulations are usually called "praise".

Tetracapillactomist

12-21-2010, 01:41 AM

[...] in the future I will (more or less try to) graciously accept any kind of compliments, accolades, and praises.

You better! ;)

[...]Thank you everybody for your support. You know you rock, don't you? :)

Right... now let's "get with" the donations, shall we!...

Ten dollars will net you sixteen secret Wiki Tips (WTs) from Wallys's, the anarchist wiki maven's lair!

Also... There's a funny story hidden in those words: "rock" and...

...as I was typing "I beg your pardon!?" - was suddenly reminded of an (often heard...) anecdote about Iggy Pop, who was confronted by a journalist about him wearing "a lady's dress", to which he responded:

"I beg your pardon! This is a man's dress!"
(this may be closer to paraphrasing, rather than quoting, but that's the gist of it)

Well, my netbook's all bunged up and refuses to boot, (I'm sitting at a desktop) so this will be a "micro-post" (...all's relative), because I'm expecting a replacement any minute now.
My last backup was only days ago, but I'll still be losing enough... I blame the moon... I like the moon, but I'll blame it still... my router quit this same day...

Superstition suddenly seems relatively rational to me.
(Alright, just in case: ;))

shadowblack

02-07-2011, 11:58 AM

As mentioned here (http://www.srythforum.com/showthread.php?p=49249#post49249) the adventure An Unwelcome Encroachment (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Quest:An_Unwelcome_Encroachment) has been added to the wiki.

shadowblack

02-08-2011, 09:12 AM

The Enchanted Plumes have been added to the wiki:
Enchanted Plume (I) (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Item:12001_Enchanted_Plume_(I))
Enchanted Plume (II) (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Item:12002_Enchanted_Plume_(II))
Enchanted Plume (III) (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Item:12003_Enchanted_Plume_(III))
Enchanted Plume (IV) (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Item:12004_Enchanted_Plume_(IV))
Enchanted Plume (V) (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Item:12005_Enchanted_Plume_(V))

Scarbrow

02-08-2011, 05:43 PM

Thanks and repped, Shadowblack.

A strange selection for Item Id range, isn't it? I wonder if the GM is preparing a new range for this purpose, items available just temporarily.

EDIT: I've made a new general page for all Raffles (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Raffles) and another one for the special no-cost ones (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/AG Raffles) (Winteriron and Plumes).

shadowblack

02-12-2011, 08:32 PM

The Creepy Old Man (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Quest:The_Creepy_Old_Man) has been added to the wiki.

shadowblack

05-23-2011, 08:06 PM

Looks like this poor thread has been all but forgotten...

Anyway, I added a few items to the wiki:
Cat's Eye Amulet (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Item:12007_Cat%27s_Eye_Amulet)
Black-Winged Battleplate (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Item:12045_Black-Winged_Battleplate)
Black-Winged Helm (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Item:12046_Black-Winged_Helm)
Black-Winged Boots (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Item:12047_Black-Winged_Boots)
Black-Winged Sleeves (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Item:12048_Black-Winged_Sleeves)
Black-Winged Greaves (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Item:12049_Black-Winged_Greaves)

*goes back to the shadows*

Scarbrow

05-24-2011, 03:09 PM

Duly repped, Shadowblack. I have neglected my duties for too long.

Oldschool

05-24-2011, 03:15 PM

Well it might help if the wiki had a little more help. Not pointing fingers as much as I'm looking in the mirror. :o

Kudos to all the wiki editors.

Edit: In fact I noticed new update announcements just now so I'm off to get the May Updates in the wiki caught up.

Edit2: Caught up - for now.

shadowblack

09-08-2011, 10:57 PM

I've added several items found in the early levels of the Mad that were missing from the wiki. I've also made some changes to the walkthroughs for levels 2 to 9 (hopefully the changes are an improvement over what was there).

shadowblack

09-10-2011, 02:50 PM

The Claw Of Kardsen (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Item:12141_The_Claw_Of_Kardsen) and the 5 Shadowstings have been added to the wiki.

shadowblack

09-22-2011, 08:57 PM

I've added all items I have on the first 23 levels of the Mad (at least those that were not on the wiki). I've also updated the walkthrough for A Mysterious Location (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Quest:A_Mysterious_Location). The walkthroughs for levels 19 and deeper of the Mad will be updated later.

I have also added all Well of Blades Raffles (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Well_of_Blades_Raffles)

Scarbrow has added a bit more to Ancient History (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Ancient_History) and has began work on A Cave on the Moor (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Quest:A_Cave_on_the_Moor).