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Kruck
10-05-2009, 08:31 PM
I love the game been playing just over a week, however i have to say im running out of quests... I have done all proving grounds available and all other quests except blood bowl, (Im on 7 gems)

All my skills are between 76 and 82 and no great ways of building XP, sure theres the multiplayer events and the repeatable scenarios but after a few runs its all the same.

I suggest repeatable random quests, things like Hunt down warbands, bandit camps that can randomly appear at locations no named bosses so they can repeat again and again. Just as an alternative way to build xp.

Maybe even random wanted posters, hunt down x a bit like phantom assas quest but individuals

Maybe the chance to get AT's or good loot exploring the realms at random.

When it comes to AT, I would like to see more available in game, i did subscribe with 80 tokens and have contributed for another 90 and have pretty good kit, but I wouldnt mind some of the nice items from Tallys, and while i dont mind donating to a certain extent, i cant afford to donate at that level.

I think some of the better magical items you find but dont use should be sellable to Tallys for AT, with option to buy back of course.

Just my thoughts anyhow, i must admit i will have a lot more free tokens when i can trade in my shield and start using the Ice shield. ....( MANY ice troll runs to go yet)

thingirl
10-05-2009, 08:52 PM
OK, first welcome to the forum and game Kruck. Second, how many skills do you have? Also, explore around a bit and you'll probably find stuff. Have you done Runeskin yet? Here's the link to the quest list (http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Quest_List) on http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Sryth_Wiki. As for finding ATs while exploring the relms, that will never happen, unless it's part of a one time event. And can you post a link to your character's profile?

wetheril
10-05-2009, 09:01 PM
Hi Kruck, and welcome!

I suggest repeatable random quests, things like Hunt down warbands, bandit camps that can randomly appear at locations no named bosses so they can repeat again and again. Just as an alternative way to build xp.

There is something like what you described in, "Explore the Realms at Random". You can run across bandit camps, goblin camps, shadow paths, haunted towers, and crypts. Granted, a run through Tarn generally nets you more exp, but I find that "explore the realm" helps break up the monotony a bit.

When it comes to AT, I would like to see more available in game, i did subscribe with 80 tokens and have contributed for another 90 and have pretty good kit, but I wouldnt mind some of the nice items from Tallys, and while i dont mind donating to a certain extent, i cant afford to donate at that level.

I think some of the better magical items you find but dont use should be sellable to Tallys for AT, with option to buy back of course.

Just my thoughts anyhow, i must admit i will have a lot more free tokens when i can trade in my shield and start using the Ice shield. ....( MANY ice troll runs to go yet)

While I find this idea to be very attractive, I am not sure if I'm wholly in support of it. There are many of us who cannot afford to donate, or haven't played long enough to get ATs during special limited-time events. However, I also see the need to reward high donators for giving so much to supporting the game.

I understand how you feel about the ATs, but you can get a sizeable number from the game just as an AG player at the moment. Also, I hope you didn't miss out on the ATs from Adventurer's Appreciation month--that is an extra 24. Also, with Halloween coming up, it might be time for another generous round of AT giveaways. :)

Edit: Not counting the limited time events, you should technically be able to get 271 ATs left over after paying for everything "essential" (residence, quickstone, zumryn's, solundar's, tzal toalth gems, adventurer's collective, etc.)

Joddelle
10-05-2009, 09:40 PM
Welcome to the game! I like some of your ideas, most of them in fact. wetheril expressed my concerns about the AT rather admirably, though easter eggs giving a single AT at extreme odds would give out some nice 'yippie!' moments.

Kruck
10-05-2009, 09:54 PM
http://www.sryth.com/ci.php?f_c=pcp.inc&f_i=15b65adxce1f3ae4d

I think thats my profile.

I am pretty sure I have done most things, have my quickstone, have my castle.

I have 18 skills and 11 powers

I think i have most AT's avail in game, i dont mean masses of AT's, i had a play in tallys u need about 4k AT's to get all best kit there. I was thinking maybe anotehr 100 in game.

I managed to do PG I to V on first attempt so got nice AT bonuses from them... PG VI annoyed me with 3 bad rolls in a row giving me a failed attempt then the same again AARG..

I searched WIKI to find what im missing and Im on 6th day in row seeing crimson rider to get access to Ice troll, im watching the egg every day for the last upgrade to one of my weapons.. And im getting frustrated getting to level 35 of ogre challenge so many times without ever getting level skip so Im only on 7 gems...

Oldschool
10-05-2009, 09:59 PM
Welcome to the forum Kruck.

As has already been mentioned the Explore the realms at random offers some variety along the lines of what you mentioned. Also the have a random encounter here options available in some areas as well as the explorable areas bear mentioning especially since they also have some unique one time encounters. However, from an xp standpoint these are more limited than the grinding options especially since there are more high xp options with the added replayable aspect of the Battlegrounds.

However, those rare glowing gem fragment encounters are very lucrative.

thingirl
10-05-2009, 10:06 PM
I just looked at your profile. And you said you've been playing for a week?!?!?!?!?!?!?

wetheril
10-05-2009, 10:11 PM
Very impressive for only one week!

And im getting frustrated getting to level 35 of ogre challenge so many times without ever getting level skip so Im only on 7 gems...

It takes some people weeks, even months to finish the Bowl of Blood. It took me about a week to get the 10 jewels, and I was complaining at the time. ;) The fastest anybody has ever completed the Bowl of Blood was 4 days, IIRC, and that was smv1973. You seem pretty close to beating that record!

thingirl
10-05-2009, 10:13 PM
You did it in a week? I'm not saying how long it took me. *Crosses arms and stares at people with better luck than her*

wetheril
10-05-2009, 10:19 PM
You did it in a week? I'm not saying how long it took me. *Crosses arms and stares at people with better luck than her*

Yes, it ended up taking a week. I complained about not getting any gems on the first 2 days. After that, I got about 2 gems a day, and completed the Bowl in a Week. :cool:

thingirl
10-05-2009, 10:20 PM
I'd repp you, but You have given out too much Reputation in the last 24 hours, try again later.

Kruck
10-05-2009, 10:39 PM
Well I played another character for a few days before realising i had messed a lot of things up, and rerolled a new character that I have played for about 8 or 9 days.

Part of reason for restart was reading skills guild in help forum and also most of my stats were very low..

I must confess also to looking at other players kit in certain locations, then thinking WOW, and looking on WIKI to see how i get it, which opened up a few more quest lines.

What other items can you get that boost MR / SP , I have...

Upgraded my shimering Long sword in Tarn , and then somewhere else
Got a perm +1 MR in tarn too
Have Phantom Weapn (lev 4) +4mr / +4sp
Have Phantom Armor (lev 4) +4mr / +4sp
Have Goblin Block +5mr / +5sp
Wisp of Black Mist +2mr

Also what usable Items are there out there (in combat items)

I Have

Wanderers Bell (4 Charges)
Wand of Dragonfire
Finger of Dread
Quickstone
Demonscouge (Tho what it does in combat i dont know)

Oh and is there any item to replensish NV ?

I wouldnt mind seeing A really good set of armor available in game that maybe youhave to get crafted for a modest AT fee and Cash fee maybe 30 AT and 100k gold for each piece.. somethin along the lines of the nightsong armor with maybe MR on it, pretty good armor but not quite up to tallys wares. I added the huge cash part cuz at moment i dont spend cash nor do i bother looting most things now, its a pain selling everything, this would make me need to grind for cash too... just a thought... but maybe have each peice of armor require a scale that can only be obtained from certain really rare explore the realms monsters.. I could take months to encounter the monster enuf times to get all the scales not to mention the cash and AT needed... But would give something to aim for..

OOh upgrades to castle too.. tho im sure thats in pipeline somewhere..

thingirl
10-05-2009, 10:49 PM
Reading that block of text with no capitalization or good punctuation made my head hurt (And before any one else starts bashing him over it, you have to go through Ms. 5 repp power first.)

Let's see for MR/SP, there's the BoB. Go to the Old North Wood and explore until you find a Moss Covered Idol. Fight the beasty 7 times (I assume you did 7 goblins, and that would be where you got the other SSL upgrade) You'll get a perm +2/+2.

For items, there is the WB, the WoD, the FoD, the QS, and Blessings of Protection (found in the Cathedral in Tallinus).

Lastly, no, there isn't an item that replenishes your NVR.

Kruck
10-05-2009, 10:49 PM
Ahh on bowl of blood..

I did mess up once and forgot to click on red door...

And on one run I had 3, 2nd portals in a row, but the 3rd 2nd portal didnt give me option of the red door when i got to the end.. So i wonder if theres a limit of 2 per run.. I started Bowl of blood day b4 yesterday.. by sound of it ive been lucky then... tho i think my luck ran out today...

Tho I was very lucky with Tallys 3 Bags too it took me about an hour to get all 3, i read somewhere on forum that its taken some ppl days to get them... So maybe the last few gems will take me a month to get now my lucks ran out lol

And in reply to Thingirl... Oops yeah I noticed that too after I posted it... I was kinda watching the gadget show on TV at same time and only just found the edit button..

Im new forgive me :P

zmflavius
10-05-2009, 10:53 PM
Well I played another character for a few days before realising i had messed a lot of things up, and rerolled a new character that I have played for about 8 or 9 days.

Part of reason for restart was reading skills guild in help forum and also most of my stats were very low..

I must confess also to looking at other players kit in certain locations, then thinking WOW, and looking on WIKI to see how i get it, which opened up a few more quest lines.

What other items can you get that boost MR / SP , I have...

Upgraded my shimering Long sword in Tarn , and then somewhere else
Got a perm +1 MR in tarn too
Have Phantom Weapn (lev 4) +4mr / +4sp
Have Phantom Armor (lev 4) +4mr / +4sp
Have Goblin Block +5mr / +5sp
Wisp of Black Mist +2mr

Also what usable Items are there out there (in combat items)

I Have

Wanderers Bell (4 Charges)
Wand of Dragonfire
Finger of Dread
Quickstone
Demonscouge (Tho what it does in combat i dont know)

Oh and is there any item to replensish NV ?

I wouldnt mind seeing A really good set of armor available in game that maybe youhave to get crafted for a modest AT fee and Cash fee maybe 30 AT and 100k gold for each piece.. somethin along the lines of the nightsong armor with maybe MR on it, pretty good armor but not quite up to tallys wares. I added the huge cash part cuz at moment i dont spend cash nor do i bother looting most things now, its a pain selling everything, this would make me need to grind for cash too... just a thought... but maybe have each peice of armor require a scale that can only be obtained from certain really rare explore the realms monsters.. I could take months to encounter the monster enuf times to get all the scales not to mention the cash and AT needed... But would give something to aim for..

OOh upgrades to castle too.. tho im sure thats in pipeline somewhere..

Your item and upgrade list look's pretty complete.

The Demonscourge is a minor combat weapon which has a one-hit kill effect on Runeskin when used against him.

Nightsong + MR = Tallys's wares. There are only a few pieces of armor which are like that but don't belong to Tallys and they come from A Haunting in Durnsig.

MONTHS for a random encounter? That would be a very rare monster indeed.

However, I really doubt something like that would ever be implemented. As mentioned before, the GM's main stream of income comes not from actual memberships, but from donations. For example, the Ice Shield practically broke the shield's section of the game because only one shield in the game available forever that is better than it exists, the coiled serpent shield, which only donators carry. The reason for this is that the only commodity invested in the Ice Shield is time. Some of the most expensive Tallys items in the game are armor pieces, and for that part of the game to be broken as well with a set of armor that is only a few MR and SP away from the top-notch gear but much less expensive would probably crash the GM's income.

This game is in fact his job, you know.

edit: on the bowl of blood...
No, there is no limit on the number of gems you can get each run, but people like Thordon and Bounty Hunter who can make it to lvl 60+ obviously have a much higher chance of getting gems than normal non-donators.

Kruck
10-05-2009, 11:07 PM
You make a valid point, maybe make the AT to craft them then the same as an equivilent item at tallys but give them unique abilities...
Something like..

The chest gives REGEN say 1SP every round of combat (not enuf to unbalance the game but maybe let you survive one more hit.. )

Or the gloves adding +1 to Thievery while worn.

Bonuses so you still have to contribute but , I guess i would have to say im a bit of a purist.. so while i could get almost as good at tallys for the same price i would put into the quest to get the extra bonus's..

wetheril
10-05-2009, 11:15 PM
Your post reminds me of a previous discussion on the old forum (http://shadowwolf47.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=talk&thread=4912&page=2) about player-unique weapons.

Granted we have a "customizable" weapon/armor system involving icons and imbuable weapons/armor, but there's much left to be desired from the current system.

/necropost ;)

taproot97
10-06-2009, 04:23 PM
how much do you play in a day ??
i have about 1 -1.5 hours everyday

Kruck
10-06-2009, 06:05 PM
Well I completed Blood bowl today took me 4 days to get the 10 gems.

Im am also up to one complete run of ice troll now. (MANY more to go)

I also got Ghor-Tiln's Eye today.

My wife died from a brain tumour 3 months ago 3 weeks after being given 9 - 12 months to live. I had taken a years unpaid leave from work so at the moment i can jump on computer every 3 hours when quests cool down.

At moment i play quite a lot, moreso when the kids are at nursery and school.

The game provides a nice escape.

I dont think I will be playing as much now though, logging on every day to do a few tarn runs for xp, clear out ice troll. Its ashame the Proving grounds are not replayable, i really enjoyed them.

Havoc
10-06-2009, 07:14 PM
I'm really sorry to hear about your loss, and glad to hear that the game gives you an escape.

You might want to create a new character if you want to replay the Proving Grounds, and try out options you might have left out earlier.

Young Ned
10-10-2009, 09:33 AM
Welcome to the forum. I'm so sorry for your tragic loss, Kruck. I can't imagine how hard that must be for both you and your kids.