Daylight Saving... Again

[Badstench]

My work has suppliers from America, and one supplier sent us some calendars for 2010.

I noted that daylight saving finished in the US a week or so ago, meaning that you're entering Spring and longer afternoons/ evenings.

It also reminded me that our daylight saving will come to a close soon, which proves New Zealand entering the colder months. Indeed, this very morning (March 18) I woke to a distinct chill in the air. It was the first time I've had to don a sweater for my walk to the bus.

But more importantly, as America springs forward and New Zealand falls back, this has a direct influence on my Sryth gaming and forum timing. It actually brings us 2 hours closer! This means I see more people gaming at shifted times and have to adjust my knowledge of game update time.

It also means you will start to see an increased presence from me.

I mention that last bit as a warning to Spencer... I'm gunning to reclaim my lost position on the Champion boards.

Muahahahaha!

[Lightwielder]

Yep, us Americans change the world, Badstench. Actually, today was the first day in the longest time where my jacket was not necessary, even at night. Getting warmer for us.

[Oldschool]

I'd like to see them stay with one time period but I understand the premised behind Daylight Savings so I can bear with it. I'm definitely ok with it since it also heralds the approach of Spring. Especially after this winter. Since ALL the snow in my "viewing area" (from my residence) finally melted a week or so ago. Although I'm in southern West Virginia (gotta remember not to use those postal abbreviations :rolleyes:) I'm in an area that sees a lot of snow for the region. Still we had more this year then in recent memory. We had a big storm (2 foot plus overnight) a week or so prior to Christmas. And except for one three or four day period the ground stayed buried, not covered, until a couple weeks ago as did most of my fence along my driveway. Almost looking forward to cutting grass.

[zmflavius]

Yep, us Americans change the world, Badstench. Actually, today was the first day in the longest time where my jacket was not necessary, even at night. Getting warmer for us.

Ah...that reminds me...

http://snopes.com/humor/letters/daylight.asp

[spencer]

My work has suppliers from America, and one supplier sent us some calendars for 2010.

I noted that daylight saving finished in the US a week or so ago, meaning that you're entering Spring and longer afternoons/ evenings.

It also reminded me that our daylight saving will come to a close soon, which proves New Zealand entering the colder months. Indeed, this very morning (March 18) I woke to a distinct chill in the air. It was the first time I've had to don a sweater for my walk to the bus.

But more importantly, as America springs forward and New Zealand falls back, this has a direct influence on my Sryth gaming and forum timing. It actually brings us 2 hours closer! This means I see more people gaming at shifted times and have to adjust my knowledge of game update time.

It also means you will start to see an increased presence from me.

I mention that last bit as a warning to Spencer... I'm gunning to reclaim my lost position on the Champion boards.

Muahahahaha!


I look forward to it and relish the competition!! It does seem that both of us are chasing MrCrowley at the moment, however.

[texlaw1992]

We're still wearing coats in Texas - probably been in the '50s all week with the wind blowing.

I know 50s are nothing for those in the northeast and midwest, but here it's cold. Still, rather run the heat then the ac, since the weather by mid-April or so will be scorching.

[thingirl]

I'm wearing short sleeves and the AC is blowing right in my face. Ahh, I love warm. It's 66 degrees outside. :):):)

[Oldschool]

Well as the end of Daylight Saving Time and the start of Standard Time is approaching (Nov 7th here in the US I think without looking) I thought this deserved a bump.

Fairly recently Daylight savings was extended on both ends here in the US. I still would rather they left it alone but I'm definitely glad they extended it past Halloween. It always peeved me in the past that Daylight savings would end prior to Halloween making it get dark an hour earlier when kids were out on the streets trick or treating.

I know Taleria is in Hawaii that uses Standard time year round. I'm wondering what other members may be in other areas that stay with one or the other year round.

[Young Ned]

I know Arizona doesn't do Daylight Savings Time, but I don't know if anyone here is from Arizona.

[texlaw1992]

Well, only two things come from Arizona ...

[Young Ned]

Well, only two things come from Arizona ...

Kingdom of Loathing (http://www.kingdomofloathing.com) and...?

[Dariel]

Kingdom of Loathing (http://www.kingdomofloathing.com) and...?
http://www.caribbeanproducers.com/files/imagecache/product_main/files/beverage_images/Juices-Arizona-Watermelon-Tea.gif

:D

[Oldschool]

I thought he was talking about her (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6erjP98F1w) and this. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gAdh26bZN4) ;)

[texlaw1992]

You guys nailed it - NOT (lol).

[Badstench]

Oldschool asked:
I know Taleria is in Hawaii that uses Standard time year round. I'm wondering what other members may be in other areas that stay with one or the other year round.
It's all about global location. The countries/states that have adopted daylight saving are generally located within a specific area either side of the tropical latitudes.

The seasons are not so pronounced in equatorial countries, nor is the lengthening or shortening of the day. The same can be said of the polar regions, both north and south.

Whereas many of us on this forum experience seasons as spring, summer, winter, autumn (fall), other places experience wet and dry seasons, or dark and light seasons.

Equador, for example, has no need to institute daylight saving because it lies on the equator and has pretty much the same number of daylight hours no matter what time of year it is. Conversely, Antarctica is shrouded in daylight or night for six months continuously. Shifting the time an hour backwards or forwards means diddly in these places.

New Zealand has a marked difference to the number of daylight hours between the seasons, dependant on the turning of the globe in ralation to its orbit around Sol, our host star.

But there's another reason why some countries will adopt daylight saving, usually pin-pointed to economics. You will find that many countries who rely heavily on tourism for their economy have embraced daylight saving.

Again, I can only use New Zealand as an example ('cos that's where I live). Tourism is the third most productive source of income for us. The second is agriculture and the first is dairy. We are not rich in fossil fuels or minerals, but we are over-abundant in natural beauty (the correlation should be obvious, but the NZ tourism board isn't paying me, so I won't get into that discussion.)

Sheep and cows don't care what time it is, but they are affected by the Humans who shift their clocks forwards and backwards. Farmers hate daylight saving! They hate it because their cows and sheep still need to be milked or shawn or fed by the rising and falling of the sun. The cows and sheep don't suffer by human idiosyncracies, but the farmers do.

Personally, I'm a 'winter person'. Given that I surf, you'd think I would look forward to summer, but the truth is opposite. The best and biggest waves occur by the whims of weather systems, and the nastier weather systems create better waves.

Okay, waves are actually formed by the confluence of water depth and surface land. did you know that what we percieve as a wave breaking on the shore is actually the culmination of water movement? A breaking wave is the death of the actual wave.

If you've seen movies like Poseidon, you might say the ship was overturned by a wave. That wasn't a wave. It was ocean turbulence constructed by certain conditions.

Tidal effects, sub-thermal activity, atmospheric conditions and density... these all contribute to the forming of a wave and turbulence.

Umm... I've got a bit side-tracked here.

Daylight saving. I've already stated my point. :o

For more on the construction and surfability of wave formations, please contact your nearest governmental department in the Ministry of Boring Shit

[Taleria]

I love that time never changes for me. But it's a hassle in spring and summer when the Mainland is 3-6 hours ahead. It actually does make a difference if you ever have to call somewhere there.

What's the point of Daylight Saving, anyway? Seems to me all it does is cause more accidents because people are losing sleep.

[Badstench]

Thankyou Taleria. You proved my point.

[Taleria]

Um...I'm not following. You mean to say, you dislike Daylight Saving? I think I lost your thread in all the words. :confused:

[Badstench]

No... I love daylight saving. The extra hour allows me to go for longer walks after work, which you would appreciate if you knew where I live... five minutes has me strolling down the waterfront past a yacht marina toward the city.

I've forgotten what my point was, except to say that I still get 8 hours sleep... I'm a grumpy brat if I don't get my regular hours in slumber-land. Same if I don't have a shower in the morning. Every day starts fresh and new and smelling like soap and deoderant.

[texlaw1992]

Then maybe you need to consider changing your screen name (lol).

[spencer]

I have not read the whole thread, so if already posted, my apologies. My mom used to tell me that DST was instituted to help the farmers. If the sun is up an hour "earlier" then I guess more can get done during the day,.

[Oldschool]

Friendly reminder.....

Spring forward for most of us in the U.S. and Canada. Iirc Arizona and Hawaii do not observe it in the U.S..

For most of us it's 2 a.m. local time on Sunday 3-13-2011.

Irrc for other countries it's later as it used to be here before they changed it to earlier in the spring later in the fall under an Energy Act in '07 (I think).

And I'm not completely sure (I'm betting forum members from other countries are though) but I think GMT time is GMT -4 once it switches at it is now GMT -5.

Anyone remember if it affects our timers if they're already ticking? IF so it should shorten 'em all an hour. :) Same with the mp resets - anyone remember.

[Badstench]

New Zealand extended daylight saving one hour to both ends of the spectrum. We fall back next week.

The weather remains warm and summery in Auckland, though the street-sweepers have been noticed more often. I was woken up a few days ago... it was 3am, and for the first time in a log time, I was cold.

Time to sleep with the windows closed, methinks.

Dust off the long sleeves,
And iron out the jeans
Get ready the jacket
And anything by means to stay warm.

Open the wardrobe where woolen things wait.
Release the polyprops to breathe.
Put away the kayak and pull out the skis.
The northerly's changing to a southerly breeze.

The hard rain has gone, and with it, the thunder.
The clouds have turned white here in Down-Under.
Do you know what that means?
I need new clothes; I don't fit in my jeans anymore.

[Oldschool]

The Trick or Treat discussion got me thinking about the impending time change. It used to change in the fall going back an hour (fall back/spring forward :)) before Halloween which never made any sense to me since it got dark an hour "earlier" during Trick or Treat so I like that it changes after Halloween.

Anyhoo.... I thought it was next week (next Sunday here) so I googled it to make sure - it is btw. But I stumbled on this article where they're considering moving it back and keeping it "back" permanently in the UK.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2054668/Daylight-savings-2011-Clocks-forward-hour-good--Scotland-agrees.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

[Doolipalally]

Yeah, I was reading about that on the BBC here (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-15490249). I get the feeling it's not that popular an idea in Scotland.

Over here, President Medvedev has decided that Moscow ought to be one time zone further east, to make it easier to do business with the rest of Russia, so the clocks aren't going back from summer time at all. I think this means if I leave the house at 10am in the winter it'll still be dark. It definitely means that I'm now 4 hours ahead of friends and family in the UK instead of 3.

[Young Ned]

Everybody keeps messing around with the time zones, as if they just can't be satisfied with the one they're in.

To eliminate all those problems, I think we should have just one time zone for the entire planet... "Earth Standard Time". Imagine how much THAT would make people complain!

Yeah, sure, that means some folks would have to work their entire 9-to-5 day jobs in pitch darkness, but come on, you whiners! Think how easy it would be to call your relatives on the opposite end of the continent and KNOW that you're not going to wake them up because you forgot to adjust for the time difference! Because there is no time difference anymore! Wouldn't that be worth a little darkness? :D