The Ruined City of Tarn

[smv1973]

Link to the old forum.

http://shadowwolf47.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=talk&action=display&thread=4819

[psychoadept]

The new forum looks awesome!

I was just thinking: maybe the replayable scenarios deserve a sub-forum of their own, too?

[zmflavius]

Good idea, can anyone who's a thane create a sub-forum for that and move this thread there?

[Oldschool]

I agree - good idea. Unfortunately that's an admin only function - kinda like Thanes wielding NR. ;)

[smv1973]

This thread has been moved to the Replayable Scenarios section.

[psychoadept]

Who do I thank for making the replayables subforum?

[Joddelle]

Who do I thank for making the replayables subforum?
You can thank Havoc

[Disco Soup]

Looking for help finding "The Eye That Binds".

[zmflavius]

Looking for help finding "The Eye That Binds".

Do you have all four bone amulet fragments yet?

[thingirl]

If you don't, the're on the stone slab in lower Tarn, they appear randomly I can't seam to get them. And just to be clear, you do show them to Tallys right?

[zmflavius]

Yes, then you need to go to Trithik to start the quest. It's not very hard, but it is amazingly long and annoying.

[thingirl]

Thanks, I guessed because of the Graffiti. Repped!

[thingirl]

I thought someone might want the texts for the lower level when you use Fortification, Elementalism, or Shadow Magic on the fire. I put them in spoiler codes to save space.

Fortification
Your use of Fortification has succeeded...
XP +16 You've been awarded a total of 16 Experience...
16 xp applied to Fortification...

You summon your power of fortification and without delay a barrier of green sparkles surrounds you. The flames wash harmlessly over your magical shield.

The fire retreats, leaving only a thin, rapidly-dissipating cloud of smoke in its wake.

When at last you feel it's safe to continue, you once again resume your movement along the passage.

Elementalism
Your use of Elementalism has succeeded...
XP +16 You've been awarded a total of 16 Experience...
16 xp applied to Elementalism...

You channel your power of elementalism and focus it on the flames now rapidly convergin on you from both sides. Almost immediately, the fire retreats, leaving only a thin, rapidly-dissipating cloud of smoke in its wake.

When at last you feel it's safe to continue, you once again resume your movement along the passage.

Shadow Magic
Your use of Shadow Magic has succeeded...
XP +16 You've been awarded a total of 16 Experience...
16 xp applied to Shadow Magic...

You call upon your power of shadow magic and watch as several broad bands of gloom peel away from the floor and instantly form a protective arc over you. The flames wash harmlessly over the barrier created by the shadows.

The fire retreats, leaving only a thin, rapidly-dissipating cloud of smoke in its wake.

When at last you feel it's safe to continue, you once again resume your movement along the passage.

[Oldschool]

Thingirl I'm not positive you get all of them from where you mentioned.

You get one from the snail that's at the end of the corridor. I'm pretty sure it's an automatic drop. If you're getting stymied on number four and haven't gotten that one maybe that'll help.

[thingirl]

Oh yeah, I forgot about that one. Acually, that was my first one, and now I'm going on a Tarn run in hopes of getting my 4th shard. Repped for remembering that.

EDIT: YESSSSS!!! I have ALL 4 shards! only, it's late, and I'm out of QS heals, so I'll have to wait until tomorrow to do the quest.

[scout1idf]

Thingirl I'm not positive you get all of them from where you mentioned.

You get one from the snail that's at the end of the corridor. I'm pretty sure it's an automatic drop. If you're getting stymied on number four and haven't gotten that one maybe that'll help.

Ulric got all 4 of his from the stone slab. It took a while to kill the snail.

[Disco Soup]

I have three. One from the Snail and two from the slab. Last run didn't give any, though.

[thingirl]

Like I said before, it's random.

And my strategy for most fear checks is to retreat to a SAFE place and save before doing the checks.

[Hastifer]

Thrice now I've had the randomly occurring Halgiroms appear when I was stepping into a "fixed" Halgirom's square.

Once on street level, twice below.

The first two times I didn't realize it, and went to either the chest or the door, and was one victory short.

I had to go back to the "fixed" Halgiroms' locations and to figure out which one I'd "missed" (even though I knew I'd fought them).

For street level it was the southwest, underground it was the silver.


The third time I caught the bugger sneaking up on me -- silver halgirom's square again, too:

So I went east, fought the first fixed halgirom, then went to the silver one. When I moved into its square, I encountered a random halgirom. I fought it, went north one square, then back south, and silver was there waiting.


Isn't that wonderful?

[thingirl]

Thats wierd, did you sent a bug report to the GM?

[Hastifer]

Not yet -- extra combat xp never hurt me (but I guess the combat part could kill lesser mortals if it were to happen to them) ;)

So I will send one next time it happens (I have this idea that it is more "thorough" if I submit when it happens, like there's a log or something...)...

Ok, so I'm odd.

[thingirl]

Your not odd, you just have some interesting ideas. And, who knows, I kind of agree with you about the log thing.

[Oldschool]

Not yet -- extra combat xp never hurt me (but I guess the combat part could kill lesser mortals if it were to happen to them) ;)

So I will send one next time it happens (I have this idea that it is more "thorough" if I submit when it happens, like there's a log or something...)...

Ok, so I'm odd.

Actually you're right. Not when it happens as much as where. When you do a report from in game it lists the section you are in when you make the report which is the numbers in the top center of the game screen if I'm not mistaken.

[Havoc]

XP +512 You've been awarded a total of 512 Experience...
1,088 xp applied to general...

XP +128 You've been awarded 128 Experience...
128 xp applied to All Skills and Powers...

XP +1,088 You've been awarded a total of 1,088 Experience...
1,088 xp applied to general...

Has this happened to anyone before?

[shadowblack]

Yes, it happens at random, regardless of the reward you get. I even sent a bug report to the GM once. Maybe you should too, as a reminder.

[psychoadept]

Has this happened to anyone before?

Does it actually give you 1088 or does it just say it does?

[Lightwielder]

Ugh, I hate it when I'm in the mood for the Ruined City of Tarn, and the Lockout Timer needs, like, 9 minutes before it will let me in. I arrived barely too early, and it then becomes an agonizing 9 minutes.

Has this happened to anyone before?
No, I've never noticed it. Now that you mention it, I'll keep an eye out for it.

[Disco Soup]

To save time, for my last two runs I didn't clear any buildings. Is this necessary to get bone amulet fragments? I only need one more.

[psychoadept]

No, you can still get the fragments. That's how I did it.

[Disco Soup]

So, right after you responded, I did it again and it worked. I have updated the wiki with info on the new adventure, but it's in need of formatting.

[Disco Soup]

An update, which may be old news to many here. I've already received three Blue Stone Orbs from finishing the city and have placed them in the idol's eyes. On my last run, however, I received another. Looks like that bonus is available again.

[shadowblack]

You thought you can get only 3 orbs, and once you use them at the idol you will no longer get any orbs? If so, you were wrong. Very, very wrong. That bonus was not a one-time thing from the very beginning.

[Disco Soup]

Yes. I was very, very, very wrong.

[thingirl]

Does anyone have any Ideas/ proof/ speculations about where the reward is set?

From another thread:
Suggustions: When you...
Kill the spider
Clear the last building (not likely)
Spin the wheel (also not likely)
Some time in lower Tarn (not at the beginning, could have changed).

I know it's not conisistently any of those. I've tested them all and the XP award has never varied.

The lower Tarn thing is simply impossible, since you can get the award without going there.

I've done ONE building, retreated to Trithik, and come back to finish Tarn, and quit without saving when I got the XP. For me - this always give me the same award until I click on through the XP and do the city fresh three hours later.

[Oldschool]

Has anyone looked at the possibility of the number of enemies being tied to rewards? Either as a whole, average per building or some other ratio?

[Joddelle]

You can skip all the buildings and still get one of the better awards. But I guess that all the buildings could have had 6 monsters each, laying in wait for an adventurer that never arrives...

[Oldschool]

Hmmm, interesting unless I've mis-read your post. I've ran it quite a few times by just getting the keys and spinning the arch (mostly with secondaries) and have always gotten the same minimum xp. In fact I've even done a random amount of buildings several times during some of those runs and still got the same minimum xp.

[Joddelle]

There's several posts in the old forum where people that skipped the buildings got high rewards. Personally, I always do all the fights unless I'm testing.

And do you get the actual minimum (32 to AS&P) or the vastly most common (64 AS&P) award?

[Oldschool]

The 32 variety - dang Sryth randomness. ;) Repped for the info by the way.

[shadowblack]

I was under the impression that to get more than 32 to all you need to clear a certain number of buildings. At least I read something like that in the old forum...

[Joddelle]

That may be the case now. It probably is the way it is now. It makes the most sense. Though I know it wasn't always that way. The GM makes changes to this stuff all the time after first introducing them.

This makes it really hard to reverse-engineer.
Remember the days when Multi-players gave rewards in multiples of 32? And where the max was over 2000xp?

[thingirl]

My first reward was 16 to As&P.

[spencer]

Is it just me or are the blue orbs getting harder to attain? I decided to quit re-spinning and have gone through about eight times since then and got no orbs. Then, today, I respun twice (total of three trips) and no orb. Anybody else finding it more difficult?

[Doolipalally]

I quit respinning a while back (through laziness) and since then it's seemed to vary. I went through an orbless patch a few days ago, but since then it's picked up again (crosses fingers and hopes to avoid jinxing self...).

[smv1973]

I also find the orbs are hard to get at times. I still do re-spins but I left Tarn with no orb a few times. I left after I did 4 or 5 re-spins.

[thingirl]

I don't do re-spins. At least, not since lower Tarn went live.

[Elrond]

I haven't had an orb in about 10 Tarn runs; and I don't do respins.

[Chareos]

I don't do the respins and picked up an orb on my last run. I hadn't had one in ages before that. I wonder how long it will take to get the next two? :-)

[Maskull]

Anyone know how much of the Tarn underground is done? The bonuses through the door are very sweet, but what else is done? I met a ghost who told me some interesting things before the old guy chased her off. He keeps telling me he'll meet me further below and I'm tired of his lies. Or am I missing something? The wiki needs updating about it too. And when will Urktuln be assuaged. What ring? The odd, old fella no doubt has it.

Also, I get a blue orb on average about once every 3 runs with no respin.

[thingirl]

Thank you for reminding me o all the loose ends in Tarn. No, you're no missing anything, that stuff hasn't been implemented yet.

There is currently only 1 lower level of Tarn, although the game says that there will be at least one more. Yes the reward are good, but for now nothing is/ can be done.

As for the ring: It is on Tarn-Hurn's finger. If you have encountered the Snake (or was it the Rat), and then spun the wheel, it will say that the ring is on one of his fingers.

And I wish I had your orb luck.

[Maskull]

Since I haven't noticed anyone mentioning this about the lady ghost down below in Tarn, I thought I would.

One square east then 2 squares south of the entrance, you will meet a ghost who will tell you about her entrapment down further below by the Tarn-Hurn. After she fades, the image of the Tarn-Hurn will appear. If you attack the image (12+) and succeed, you will get +1 to your MR permanently. This will only be available once.
Also:
Kill the three glowing halgorims (not the random ones) to get past the door to the southeast to get a nice +384 XP to general and +64 XP to all skills and powers. This is available every time you run through Tarn.

[spencer]

I got my first orb in some time, this morning, without a re-spin. Maybe this is a new trend :)

[Maskull]

I hope so. After having said I get them usually around every third run (which was the case last week), now I haven't had one in the last 5 runs. Wah...

[Maskull]

Does anyone know the exact circumstances and rewards for the defeating the snail at the end of the passageway are, so I can add them to the wiki? I vaguely remember since I simply zipped through the 5 checks, having failed only one for some minor damage, and killing the snail my first time through - thank the All-Father for Gating and the QS. I neglected to write down the particulars as it was all new to me at the time.

[Oldschool]

It's on the second run and if I'm not mistaken you get an automatic bone fragment drop for defeating it. Although you can avoid the snail and still collect all the fragments you need from the slab.

Done a little necrothreading, hope this helps.


From the old forum:

Shadowblack wrote,

[/URL]The checks are 5, with a difficulty increase of 4: 54, 58, 62, 66 and 70. Once you pass them all you can go to the end of the passage as many times as you like without worry.

The snail was 4+ for me. Is it scaled? I got the feeling it's not...

No orb again, but considering the bonus after killing the d**n thing I don't mind...

Hopefully it won't be long before we get the other two fragments.

By the way, the end text is now different, since we can go to the first of the lower levels:
Well done, Shadowblack! Your successful and complete exploration of the upper sections of Tarn, and the first of its lower levels, is a feat worthy of a master adventurer. You will soon be able to delve further into the lower reaches of the ruined city, where you will do battle with the Tarn-Hurn and his deadly minions...

Oh, in case anyone is wondering, the end reward is the same as before. Which is not really surprising, since we get a separate reward for completing the first of the lower levels.

Also I am pretty confident some members probably have more data documented such as the bonus parameters for the checks.

Good luck and thanks for all the wiki work - repped.

EDIT: Manually pasted quote as link misdirected
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(http://shadowwolf47.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=talk&action=display&thread=4819#83038)

[Maskull]

A lot of that certainly helps. Thanks, Oldschool.

[Oldschool]

A lot of that certainly helps. Thanks, Oldschool.


You're welcome, hopefully someone will have more info and will post.

Also I just created a thread in 'Help' and made it sticky to help with requests such as these.

http://www.srythforum.com/showthread.php?t=239

[zmflavius]

Killing the snail earns 8 ATs and a pile of good loot.

[Joddelle]

I have a theory about when the Tarn XP is calculated. It is as soon as you enter the city. But if it takes you more than three hours to complete, then it recalcs when you return.

I'd previously never been able to get a result different than my intitial award on restarts, but ended up sitting in Tarn 'idle' for half a day yesterday because I left without finishing the city (something I'd never done before)

When I returned, returned to the sheltered hollow and saved, then went in to complete I got a 32 to AS&P and no Blue stone. I was screwed on the 32 (I thought) but I decided to keep trying for the stone. My next attempt gave me 64 AS&P, and the time after that gave 256! I decided that was good enough and didn't keep trying for the stone orb.

Anyway - the thing different (for me) was that I completed that run more than three hours after I finished it.

[smv1973]

You hear something rattling about amongst your possessions.


Well done, Thordon! Your successful and complete exploration of the upper sections of Tarn, and the first of its lower levels, is a feat worthy of a master adventurer. You will soon be able to delve further into the lower reaches of the ruined city, where you will do battle with the Tarn-Hurn and his deadly minions...

XP +1,024 You've been awarded a total of 1,024 Experience...
1,024 xp applied to general...

XP +256 You've been awarded 256 Experience...
256 xp applied to All Skills and Powers...

XP +1,088 You've been awarded a total of 1,088 Experience...
1,088 xp applied to general...


It has been a long time since I got this reward.

[shadowblack]

I just had my end reward change. I started my Tarn run around 2 hours ago and the first time I finished Tarn I got the 384/64 one without an orb, so I quick without saving. The next two times I got 768/192 with no orb, and then - finally - 768/192 with an orb.

To be exact started around 15:00 local time, had to leave for a bit, and then came back. I finished it around 16:50. So maybe the end reward changes every hour (not likely) or every two hours (a lot more likely), with the possibility of getting the same reward several times in a row. Or maybe it is just a glitch.

[billydakid]

It's cool that it can change like that but then again if i do a tarn run like normal and don't wait an hour or 2 I will get more tarn runs in and there fore more points even though i got the 384 the first time

[thingirl]

Yeah, but if your just a few minutes from a reward change and you got a rely low reward, it might pay to wait a few minutes. Not trying to knock you dow or anything.

[shadowblack]

There's also the other version: a big reward changing to a smaller one...

[thingirl]

Yeah, but if you get the minium reward the first time...

[shadowblack]

Yeah, but if you get the minium reward the first time...
...you may get the minimum reward the next time too.

[thingirl]

Stop raining on my parade. :p

[billydakid]

plus you have to know the exact time changes to. heck you could wait all day lol then you lose tarn runs.

[thingirl]

To is a preposition "I'm going to beet up on Xarakk"
Too means also "plus you have to know the exact time changes too"

[Doolipalally]

To is a preposition "I'm going to beet up on Xarakk"
Too means also "plus you have to know the exact time changes too"

Thingirl, does this mean I'm allowed to correct your spelling now? (cracks knuckles and grins evilly...) ;)

'Beeting up on Xarakk': choosing the toughest root vegetables you can find and hurling them at him.

[thingirl]

Yes, PLEASE! I'm at the mercy of spell check, and that doesn't catch homophones. On another note: Gateing (69) is my only power below 70.

[Elrond]

Yes, PLEASE! .... Gateing (69) is ....

Were you teasing Dooli with that? :rolleyes:

[thingirl]

Now, my spelling is horrable.

[Elrond]

So, now you're teasing me! Lol .... :)

[thingirl]

Yes, yes I am.

Oh, and I just finished a Tarn run, including lower Tarn. When I fought the colored Halgiroms, they gave me 80, 72, and 76 combat XP, in that order (R,G,S). The random ones kept their values.

[shadowblack]

You do know that the values for the colored ones have always been 72, 76 and 80 (randomly selected, with 72 being the most common), right? And that the exp for the random ones has always been 36, 38 or 40 (again, the lowest is the most common), right?

[thingirl]

Umm... :embarrassed: I thought (and thought I observed) 36, 38, and 40 for the colored ones. Now, in my defense, I knew that the random ones were 36, 38, and 40.

Maybe I was thinking of upper Tarn, where the they were the random ones 36, 38, and 40 and the ones in buildings were 24, 26, and 28. Until they changed to the 24 set for random and 8 for buildings.

[smv1973]

Umm... :embarrassed: I thought (and thought I observed) 36, 38, and 40 for the colored ones. Now, in my defense, I knew that the random ones were 36, 38, and 40.

Maybe I was thinking of upper Tarn, where the they were the random ones 36, 38, and 40 and the ones in buildings were 24, 26, and 28. Until they changed to the 24 set for random and 8 for buildings.

I get the same exp as you did for the colored ones. I used to get the exp that Shadowblack listed. I saw the change shortly after my Weaponry sub skill got up to level 94 I think it was.

[thingirl]

Weaponry = 83
Slashing= 82

I don't think skill levels have anything to do with it.

[smv1973]

Weaponry = 83
Slashing= 82

I don't think skill levels have anything to do with it.

I also got different rewards based on what my MR was at when I did it. I know I start getting the lower exp as soon as my Weaponry Staves got to level 94. I think there like the wolfkin that you run into on the way to fight the big bad wolf. When my weaponry & weaponry sub skill were lower than level 84 I would get like 17 or 18 exp for them. Now I get 9 exp for them.

[shadowblack]

I think it has more to do with Stamina and MR than with skills. I get 72+ exp for the colored Halgiroms despite having skills in the 90s (Weaponry is 100, Stabbing is 94, Bashing is 98, and Slashing is 100).

[thingirl]

It goes up with each wolfkin. But, I suppose that it could be that it's harder to get XP when you're at a higher level. I dunno, ask Havoc or somebody else with high skill levels.

My MR was 165 (with SSL) and I think I was at SP 191. If I wasn't, I was at 187.

[smv1973]

I think it has more to do with Stamina and MR than with skills. I get 72+ exp for the colored Halgiroms despite having skills in the 90s (Weaponry is 100, Stabbing is 94, Bashing is 98, and Slashing is 100).

What is your MR at when you go through so I can try it my next time through.

[smv1973]

It goes up with each wolfkin. But, I suppose that it could be that it's harder to get XP when you're at a higher level. I dunno, ask Havoc or somebody else with high skill levels.

My MR was 165 (with SSL) and I think I was at SP 191. If I wasn't, I was at 187.

I have a couple of characters that have stats close to yours in their weaponry and they still get the higher rewards from the the wolfkin.

[thingirl]

Hmm... I wonder if the decrease in intentional.

[shadowblack]

What is your MR at when you go through so I can try it my next time through.
Depending on the weapon I use my MR is 140 (Quickstab Dagger) or 148 (Demonscourge) or 163 (SSL). Stamina is 186 with the first 2 and 191 with SSL.

As for the Wolfkin:
Combat Experience for Black Striped Wolfkin
Initially (MR 144 and Stamina 177) I was getting 17-18 combat exp for the Black Striped Wolfkin. After I won a bracelet from that raffle my MR increased to 147 (later 148) and my Stamina increased to 186. At that time the combat exp for that particular enemy was reduced to 9.
The combat exp for the first 2 Wolfkin has always been 9 for me. The last one still gives me 17-18 combat exp.

[thingirl]

I just ran it. My results were: 9, 9, 9, 17. MR 165, SP 187. We hould move this to the Talderous thread.

[Oldschool]

I also noticed a drop in the wolfkin combat xp since Hawk's MR/SP has risen from his latest raffle win and the boosts from the Totem Block and Bowl of Blood. Going from memory the drop was from 17 to about 9.

[Plezier]

Hmmmm so far I have not seen Wolfkin in Tarn but then I have only just reached the first lower level, twice now, made it through the stone arch to the new tunnel once and got whopped by the bug in there.

However I cannot seem to get anyway against that Stone Troll. Tried three times now and got him down to half health once before getting killed.

[Oldschool]

I just ran it. My results were: 9, 9, 9, 17. MR 165, SP 187. We hould move this to the Talderous thread.

Hmmm... good point whether it is [s]hould or [c]ould - sorry couldn't resist.

Hmmmm so far I have not seen Wolfkin in Tarn but then I have only just reached the first lower level, twice now, made it through the stone arch to the new tunnel once and got whopped by the bug in there.

However I cannot seem to get anyway against that Stone Troll. Tried three times now and got him down to half health once before getting killed.

Apologies Plezier as there are no wolfkin, at least as of yet, in Tarn. Those posts are in reference to the wolfkins one encounters while going to fight Redborn in the Sageholt mp.

[Plezier]

Oh OK me understand now :D

Does anyone ever take on that Huge Stone troll in Tarn?


I don't see it mentioned :confused: I did finally manage to kill the demon and now wear the Ring ... Band Of Gruljasa . :D It's amazing how just a small increase in MR helps in these things :D.

[psychoadept]

Oh OK me understand now :D

Does anyone ever take on that Huge Stone troll in Tarn?


Some people have killed Urktuln, but it's TOUGH. Xaran died several times before I finally managed to take him out. I forget, do you have the Wand of Dragonfire yet? That'll help.

[shadowblack]

Wand of Dragonfire + Finger of Dread + 3 Blessings + Quickstone 20s + some luck. The goblin is also pretty tough if you intend to fight him for the combat expafter you get the 4 ATs from him

[thingirl]

Don't forget Troll-bont, it's special aginst trolls is better that SSL. And did you encounter the Demoness more than once?

[psychoadept]

Don't forget Troll-bont, it's special aginst trolls is better that SSL.

Oh, yeah. That's how I did it! LOL, I'd completely forgotten.

[Plezier]

Doh :o !!! me never thought about that thing and I even have skill level 71 with the Troll Bont too :D.

Yep I has the Dragon Fire Wand :D it works well on the Frozen Ogre in the Ice Cave ;) and I also have the finger of dread but don't have my Troll Bont so will ahve to wait until my next Tarn run :(.

Have not seen the Demoness since I killed her and got the Ring.

[billydakid]

I tried the troll bont when I did that part wasn't as effective as you may think. I have good troll bont skils over eighty.

[shadowblack]

I too had no luck with the Troll Bont, so I resorted to Wand and Finger.

P.S.: The denoness is a one-time thing - once you kill her she stays dead.

[Plezier]

Ahhh it seems that I cannot find the really good Troll Bont only the Well Crafted one and not Jirig Ayroth's one which is magical. I remember being given it but seem to have misplaced it and have checked all three locations, Dursnig, Trithik and my castle but to no avail :(.

Brought the three blessings some time ago but only used it once so far but popped back to get a top up anyway :D.

Man I am peeved about misplacing that Troll bont as it had far better MR bounes than the WC one found in my storage :o.

Oh Thingirl .................. I finally broke down and brought that Unmatched Plate Belt you sugested ;)

Now it's off to Tarn to try and repair the Bone amulet I acquired in 4 bits :p tried in a safe place but it does not seem to want to re-join itself so perhaps I need to place it on the slab where I found it. Will see in a while once I get to that point.

[zmflavius]

Ahhh it seems that I cannot find the really good Troll Bont only the Well Crafted one and not Jirig Ayroth's one which is magical. I remember being given it but seem to have misplaced it and have checked all three locations, Dursnig, Trithik and my castle but to no avail :(.

Brought the three blessings some time ago but only used it once so far but popped back to get a top up anyway :D.

Man I am peeved about misplacing that Troll bont as it had far better MR bounes than the WC one found in my storage :o.

Oh Thingirl .................. I finally broke down and brought that Unmatched Plate Belt you sugested ;)

Now it's off to Tarn to try and repair the Bone amulet I acquired in 4 bits :p tried in a safe place but it does not seem to want to re-join itself so perhaps I need to place it on the slab where I found it. Will see in a while once I get to that point.

visit Tallys

[thingirl]

When someone says visit Tallys, I think of the Trading Post. Zm means visit Tallys' Cottage. Then go to Trithik and look under Adventuers for this location.

[Plezier]

Thanks to all for your tips and pointers :D. I did start the Eye that Binds but had to abandon it as I was running out of time :( will get back to it later but have not got the time right now. Still need to get more XP's to increase my Fortification stat to level 70 and as I have two levels to go Tarn is a better option right now.

Will get back to it once I get back as have to pop into the village and post office there.

[Plezier]

Well I finally defeated the "Unmarred huge Halgirom " and got this as a reward:-

XP +2,048 You've been awarded a total of 2,048 Experience...
2,048 xp applied to general...

XP +384 You've been awarded 384 Experience...
384 xp applied to All Skills and Powers...

Yep me is a happy chappie at this moment. :D

[thingirl]

"Happy chapie"? I guess I'm just too American to understan Brittish slang. I know what it means. Oh ,and I almost forgot: Yay, Plizer!

[zmflavius]

"Happy chapie"? I guess I'm just too American to understan Bittish slang. I know what it means. Oh ,and I almost forgot: Yay, Plizer!

Bittish-People from small islands.

[thingirl]

I'm staring at you right now in a way you don't want to know. Maybe Alanne and Myrenne don't truse Ln and will try to kill her. Or not, she adds power to the team.

[zmflavius]

Jeez, it's just my warped idea of a joke.

[thingirl]

So was mine. I was more staring at the mirror, because I can't remember to read what I write.

[spencer]

"Happy chapie"? I guess I'm just too American to understan Brittish slang. I know what it means. Oh ,and I almost forgot: Yay, Plizer!

Do you, perchance, watch the Suite Life of Zach and Cody on Disney Channel? If you do, then you should know who London Tipton is and then would understand why I asked with all this "Yay" stuff going around.

[thingirl]

Yes, I do. Yayme! *claps and jumps*.

However, Suite Life isn't being produced anymore. It's now Suite Life on deck, where they, and Londen go to the boarding school on the S.S. Tiption. And Maddie isn't on anymore, which is darn, because she was one of my favorite characters.

[spencer]

Yes, I do. Yayme! *claps and jumps*.

However, Suite Life isn't being produced anymore. It's now Suite Life on deck, where they, and Londen go to the boarding school on the S.S. Tiption. And Maddie isn't on anymore, which is darn, because she was one of my favorite characters.


Hee hee, I know all about suite life :) My four year old daughter loves it and I watch it with her a lot and it is a pretty good show.

[thingirl]

Quote from the show:

Barbra is coming for a visit, while Bailie is going to wressle 'gators.
Zack: "Cody, this is your chance, you're old GF is coming and your pretend GF is leaving."

Anyway, I got killed be a halgirom because I didn't use Restro before battle. Grr.

[Plezier]

Hmmmm yep technically I AM british however in reality I am English and that's an IMPORTANT difference as you only need a british passport to be classed as British nowadays meanwhile no only was I born here the lineage can be traced back several centuries :p. It would appear that at least on Mother's side a certain ancester was a priveteer during Elizebeth 1's reign.

Priveteer was the polite name for a pirate ;)

Being male and of a certain age "Chaps and chappie" are terms used in reference to men. Happy well there's no need to expalin that one :D Of course I posted the "happy Chappie" comment several hours ago as I had some others things to do.

As for the British Isles being small .................. yep they sure are but the poeple, the natives at least, are rather beligent which is how came they ended up being in charge of half the world. Liberals ruined that :(:confused: playing minds games with the likes of Ghandi instead of just stringing him up as was done in the times shortly before.

Oh and before someone mentions the American War of Independance, one should point out that at the time the war with the French and protecting the West Indies was considered more important due to the lucrative Spice trade so only a few troops were sent to the Americas and the commanders there were more iinterested in lining their own pockets and did not report what was happening accurately to the deranged king of the time.

[thingirl]

That's YOUR excuse, Plizer. This is not the place to argue about world history.

[zmflavius]

Hmmmm yep technically I AM british however in reality I am English and that's an IMPORTANT difference as you only need a british passport to be classed as British nowadays meanwhile no only was I born here the lineage can be traced back several centuries :p. It would appear that at least on Mother's side a certain ancester was a priveteer during Elizebeth 1's reign.

Priveteer was the polite name for a pirate ;)

Being male and of a certain age "Chaps and chappie" are terms used in reference to men. Happy well there's no need to expalin that one :D Of course I posted the "happy Chappie" comment several hours ago as I had some others things to do.

As for the British Isles being small .................. yep they sure are but the poeple, the natives at least, are rather beligent which is how came they ended up being in charge of half the world. Liberals ruined that :(:confused: playing minds games with the likes of Ghandi instead of just stringing him up as was done in the times shortly before.

Oh and before someone mentions the American War of Independance, one should point out that at the time the war with the French and protecting the West Indies was considered more important due to the lucrative Spice trade so only a few troops were sent to the Americas and the commanders there were more iinterested in lining their own pockets and did not report what was happening accurately to the deranged king of the time.

I like Britain better minus its empire, mainly because I'm Chinese, and I still have a bone to pick over Britain waging war to promote trade of opium (an ingredient in heroin).

(And a privateer is actually a pirate with a pirating license. However, the license only protects you from hanging by the country which issued the letter of marque, and then, of course you can't attack their or their allies' ships, only their enemies)

[thingirl]

And I knew about the priviteer, but I thought Ehh, close enough.

[Plezier]

Yep their "targets" of course were the Spanish ships and especially those coming from the Americas.

Ahhh history ................... yes I like it and where I live is steeped in it. In fact there were a lot of Bronze age settlements around this part of Britain :).


(And a privateer is actually a pirate with a pirating license. However, the license only protects you from hanging by the country which issued the letter of marque, and then, of course you can't attack their or their allies' ships, only their enemies)

Quite true unless that is there are no witnesses to you attacking an allied vessel/settlement and yep that happened more than once no doubt :rolleyes:. Now as for the theft of Tea :eek: yes the british did that it seems and set up the tea trade/growing in India. Not surprising when you think that their is a lot of Viking in the English people ;).

Oh and it's Plezier which I understand is Afrikaans or Boer (South Africans of Dutch descent) and mean Pleasure.

[thingirl]

Sorry, for some reason, I read Plezier as Plizer.

[Elrond]

Back to Tarn, I'm doing my first run in nearly 4 weeks after getting the pouches from Fogbough. Tarn is my only grinding spot as it gives the most xp for the limited time I play the game. And I clear it out 100%, even if I have to do it over a day or 2.

[thingirl]

I can clear it out in about 30-45 mins, but weather I do clear it out is another question.

[Aracelis]

Are the massive halgirom (the one that starts out 'unmarred') and the resulting experience bonus :) a one-time thing? Or can you run into that special brand of halgirom more than once?

[Elrond]

I remember part of a discussion about lower level Halgorim's giving 72 xp. I just did that lower level and got 36 xp per Halgorim!

@ Aracelis: that unmarred Halgorim is a 1-time thingie!

[Aracelis]

@ Aracelis: that unmarred Halgorim is a 1-time thingie!

Oh well. Thanks!

I've also finally gone and faced Urktuln. Turned down his offer. We'll see how that turns out...

[Elrond]

Makes more sense (now) to just kill him. I took up his offer and am longing for those 24 AT's! Oh well! Maybe the GM will have time to follow through with Tarn loose ends soon.

[Aracelis]

Makes more sense (now) to just kill him

Yeah... I gave that a shot. A few shots. Didn't go to well.

We'll see. Refusing his offer will probably have its perks too. And between now and when the GM ties that loose end up, maybe I shall grow more powerful... and Urktuln will be the one who goes splat on the Tarn paving stones.

[spencer]

It takes me about 20 minutes to clear Tarn, if I don't get interupted or distracted.

[Elrond]

Yeah... I gave that a shot. A few shots. Didn't go to well.

We'll see. Refusing his offer will probably have its perks too. And between now and when the GM ties that loose end up, maybe I shall grow more powerful... and Urktuln will be the one who goes splat on the Tarn paving stones.

As far as I know, the Troll is 9+ to hit with MR 250.

[thingirl]

I remember part of a discussion about lower level Halgorim's giving 72 xp. I just did that lower level and got 36 xp per Halgorim!


It's MR based. I use Hale (MR 145) in Tarn when I'm not fighting undead. I didn't switch when I went to the lower level, and the first Halgirom gave me 36 XP. I switched to SSL (MR 165) and got 72 and 80 combat XP. That's the one place where you want a high MR for higher combat XP.

[Plezier]

Hmmm I stick with the SSL which gives me a lowly MR of 140 :o so the Stone Troll can wait. After he killed me twice I have steered well clear and just gone though for the XP's into the first lower level.

Edit:- Hmmm it just took 20 minutes to clear 12 of the structures and 3 guardians roaming about.

[thingirl]

To get a higher MR: raise your Weaponry and weaponry subskill (or unarmed if you fight unarmed) and visit Tallys to get some MR boosting items. Don't forget Fougbough and (once you have them) the GIS and the BoB.

[smv1973]

I remember part of a discussion about lower level Halgorim's giving 72 xp. I just did that lower level and got 36 xp per Halgorim!

@ Aracelis: that unmarred Halgorim is a 1-time thingie!

If I drop my MR to 198-199 & my SP to 229-231 I get the higher rewards from the colored Halgorim's on the lower level.

[thingirl]

So it seems like there's a range of MRs for the good XP. I think I think it's 150-200, because with Hale my MR is 145 and I got the low rewards. Smv/ Thordon' MR with the Axe is 232 (wow) and he gets the low rewards. If he lowers his MR to 199, he gets the high rewards.

@Smv, can you get your MR to exactly 200?

[shadowblack]

I just got a 72 XP reward with MR 145 and Stamina 196. In fact, I've gotten the 72/76/80 rewards with MR of 140 and Stamina 186. So your guess about the range is definitely wrong.

[smv1973]

So it seems like there's a range of MRs for the good XP. I think I think it's 150-200, because with Hale my MR is 145 and I got the low rewards. Smv/ Thordon' MR with the Axe is 232 (wow) and he gets the low rewards. If he lowers his MR to 199, he gets the high rewards.

@Smv, can you get your MR to exactly 200?

Yes I can but I have to do a lot of changes.

[thingirl]

@ Smv: If it's not worth it, don't bother.
@ Shadow: I got the 36/38/40 set with MR 145. Maybe it's a combo of MR and SP (186 W/ Hale, 187 normal).

[spencer]

With MR 200 and SP 188 I just got 80/72/72.

[thingirl]

I'm not good at math. Someone who is good might want to collect MR/SP/combatXP data and crunch some numbers.

[smv1973]

@ Smv: If it's not worth it, don't bother.
@ Shadow: I got the 36/38/40 set with MR 145. Maybe it's a combo of MR and SP (186 W/ Hale, 187 normal).

I get the higher rewards now that I know what I have to change to get it and I only have to change a few things. I think it is well worth it to get the higher exp.

[Joddelle]

On the lower level Halgorim - are you talking the three 'set' guys, or the 4-5 wandering ones, or both? Because for me, the three 'set' (red/green/silver) have always given the 72/76/80 award, while the random ones have giiven 36/40/44.

[smv1973]

On the lower level Halgorim - are you talking the three 'set' guys, or the 4-5 wandering ones, or both? Because for me, the three 'set' (red/green/silver) have always given the 72/76/80 award, while the random ones have giiven 36/40/44.

The set ones.

[scout1idf]

It takes me about 20 minutes to clear Tarn, if I don't get interupted or distracted.


I actually just ran Tarn for the first time in about 2 months. Still only about 20 minutes (top and bottom combined).

I'm trying to work myself out of my grind burn out......

[Plezier]

Damn ............. something must be wrong this end then :( that is apart from having too low MR and SP :o as the top section of Tarn even using the quick combat takes around 30 minute to clear the 17 structures. OK our ISP connection is not the fastest nor is this computer :(

I will not be able to spend the time I was in game due to other commitments so Plezier's development will slow down some now.

[Joddelle]

Top level Tarn takes me 12-15 minutes if I don't get interupted.
I go straight west, clearing up and down as I go, then north up the west side for an angled piece and circle back east for the 2 northern buildings.

After clearing the last northern building, I "quickly retreat" to the entrance and head west to the fountain, heal, and continue to the western wall and south down for another building and another angled piece. Then I loop around to the far SW for the set Halgorim and another building and the last angled piece.

Then back to kill the spider and get the gear, then though the arch, collecting my skill in Powers, to clear the SE leg, the back up past the arch to get that line of 5 buildings in a row just south of the entrance.

Whew! All that in about 15 minutes.

[thingirl]

On the lower level Halgorim - are you talking the three 'set' guys, or the 4-5 wandering ones, or both? Because for me, the three 'set' (red/green/silver) have always given the 72/76/80 award, while the random ones have giiven 36/40/44.

The set ones gave me 36/30/44, but then I increased my MR with the BoB and they gave me 72/76/80. The random ones (lower) always give me 36/30/44.

[thingirl]

Oh, it's late at night. I killed the 3 halgies and the spider. Then I retreated and saved, only to find I forgot the gear. I spell worse late at night too.

[Elrond]

... I spell worse late at night too.

And you double post too. But since it is late at night; you've been forgiven ;)

[thingirl]

Come on. There was more than 12 hours between posts. If it was less than 1 hour, I would have edited it.

[Elrond]

Come on. There was more than 12 hours between posts. If it was less than 1 hour, I would have edited it.

Not everyone is up to your speed in following the forum. Most of us have a forum short-term memory of 24 hours. But my guess is that your forum short-term memory is 24 minutes. Your contribution to the forum is truly impressive (99% of the time) ;) .

[thingirl]

No, 2 minutes :):p;) Actually 2 minutes is about right. And in the upper right corner (above the name and Avatar and if the person is online or not), there is a "time stamp" that tells you the time it was posted in the time zone that you said you're in. This option can be found on the user CP.

[billydakid]

New content at tarn I believe. attempt to grasp the iron latch but your hand is swiftly repelled by a powerful and invisible force emanating from the carved stone door

[thingirl]

Did you defeat all 3 colored Halgiroms? It doesn't open if you haven't defeated all 3.

[billydakid]

Nevermind duh on me I forgot to kill a glowy guy lol.

[Joddelle]

At exactly 200 MR the glowing red halgirom gives 36,etc combat xp, and the other two give 72,etc combat xp

[shadowblack]

At exactly 200 MR the glowing red halgirom gives 36,etc combat xp, and the other two give 72,etc combat xp
With MR 152 and Stamina 209 that same Halgiroim gave me 40 exp while the other two gave me the standard 72 exp.

[thingirl]

I guess that the red one is easier, so it gives less combat XP.

[Joddelle]

ah ha! The red one gave me 38 at 197 MR and 202 SP
so I quit and went in with 192 MR/197 SP (removed Band Of Gruljasa) and it gave 72 again.
194 MR/200 SP gave 36 xp

So it seems that 200 or more SP triggers the reduction for the red halgirom.

[thingirl]

The fact that you have 200+ SP is just awesome.

[Ka keng]

Can someone remind me how to get the troll?I dont want to have to read all 42 pages again.

[psychoadept]

Can someone remind me how to get the troll?I dont want to have to read all 42 pages again.

I think you just have to play through enough times, finishing all the events as they come along.

BTW, if you go into User CP -> Edit Details, you can increase the number of posts per page so that there aren't so many pages.

[scout1idf]

................BTW, if you go into User CP -> Edit Details, you can increase the number of posts per page so that there aren't so many pages.

Yea, this is post #160 and it's at the bottom of page 4 for me....

[thingirl]

How many posts are you displaying per page? 161 (post number in this thread) is on the top of pg. 17 with the forum default. But still, all 161 posts is a lot.

[scout1idf]

How many posts are you displaying perp page? 161 (post number in this thread) is on the bottom of pg. 16 with the forum defult. But still, all 161 posts is a lot.

I've got mine set to 40 posts per page.

[thingirl]

That's wierd. When I hit submit, it showed up on the bottom of page 16, but now it's on the top of 17.

[Elrond]

That's wierd. When I hit submit, it showed up on the bottom of page 16, but now it's on the top of 17.

the new page doesn't start empty. So, the last post of the previous page is always the first of the new one!

[thingirl]

I know. But when I hit submit, my post was showing on page 16. Then Scout posted and my post "jumped" to page 17.

[Silk]

Haven't played steadily in a while. Is it possible to get to a 2nd lower level in Tarn yet? All i get right now is the Tarn Hurd (sp?) telling me he'll see me below. If it is possible, do I need to do anything or is it visit-based?

[Doolipalally]

Haven't played steadily in a while. Is it possible to get to a 2nd lower level in Tarn yet? All i get right now is the Tarn Hurd (sp?) telling me he'll see me below. If it is possible, do I need to do anything or is it visit-based?

It's not available yet.

[spencer]

As far as I know, the first lower level is all that is currently available.

Edit: gazumped by Dooli :)

[thingirl]

There are at least 3 Tarn levels: Upper Tarn (with all the buildings), Lower Level 1 (with the colored Halgiroms), and Lower Level 2 (not yet available). I say at least, because there could also be a lower level 3 some time in the future. But not likely.

[wetheril]

I agree that a 3rd level (lower level 2) is likely to appear in the future.

(I only just caught up to all the latest Tarn developments yesterday--defeated the snail and the image of Tarn Hurn, as well as finished The Eye that Binds. Nice developments!)

[Silk]

Don't know if this has been addressed, but in my run through Tarn today, all of the crumbled houses had either 3 or 4 monsters in them (either blue or grey). Made the run through much faster than having to deal with upwards of 7 in each location.

[thingirl]

It's compleatly random how many are in each building. I once had a run where all of them had 7. And 7's the max you can find. Also, they're ALL (except for the Halgiroms) either blue or grey. And Trielra's Staff makes the undead all 7 or 8+.

[spencer]

It's compleatly random how many are in each building. I once had a run where all of them had 7. And 7's the max you can find. Also, they're ALL (except for the Halgiroms) either blue or grey. And Trielra's Staff makes the undead all 7 or 8+.



Wow, every single room had seven!! How long did that take?

[thingirl]

What do you mean? it took me about 2-3 hours playing time, but I started at 8PM, so dad made me go to bed at 9, and I had to continue the next day.

[spencer]

I don't really mean anything....other than it has to take longer with seven baddies per room, than the normal average of about 4.5, that I usually get.

[Silk]

I know they were originally set up as 3-7 in each room. I guess I was indirectly questioning whether or not this had been changed.

17 trials of either 3 or 4 given the possible range is a rare occurence...

[thingirl]

Well, Tarn's resetting in a few minutes, so I'll test it too.

EDIT: I just got 7 Tarnrats on the first building.

[spencer]

I know they were originally set up as 3-7 in each room. I guess I was indirectly questioning whether or not this had been changed.

17 trials of either 3 or 4 given the possible range is a rare occurence...

I just got this in the third room that I entered:

A group of 7 glowing staggering corpses have made their lair in this decaying structure...and they don't appear to take kindly to your sudden intrusion.

[thingirl]

Go read my edit. But you coppied the text.

[spencer]

Just for fun, I counted the number of baddies in each room. I had the following:

Rooms with 3 baddies - 4
Rooms with 4 baddies - 9
Rooms with 5 baddies - 1
Rooms with 6 baddies - 1
Rooms with 7 baddies - 2

Total baddies : 73

Average : 4.3 baddies per room

OK, time for a nap...wait I am at work....dang

[Silk]

Ok - guess i just got lucky.

[thingirl]

And reminded me to do Tarn.

[Badstench]

Spencer admitted;
OK, time for a nap...wait I am at work....dang
This made me laugh out loud.

But i should also admit that I get a lot of my forum writing done at work :rolleyes:

[thingirl]

Have I mentioned that I'm supposed to be doing Homeschool from 8-1? Or 8- whenever I'm finished.

[spencer]

Have I mentioned that I'm supposed to be doing Homeschool from 8-1? Or 8- whenever I'm finished.


I was wondering why you were posting in what is supposed to be in the middle of a school day.

[thingirl]

Mom can't see the comp. and as long as I get my work done (now now, don't go asking questions)...

[Oldschool]

Mom can't see the comp. and as long as I get my work done (now now, don't go asking questions)...

Well you do get spelling instruction sometimes ;) so I guess technically one could call that school-related work. :)

[thingirl]

I get spelling related stuff ALL the time. It's rare when I write a post where there are no spelling mistakes. And I stayed up to 11PM doing Math. We got behind. And we're still not caught up.

[scout1idf]

First Tarn run in quite a while.......


You've been awarded a total of 768 Experience...
768 xp applied togeneral...


You've been awarded 192 Experience...
192 xp applied to All Skills and Powers...


You've been awarded a total of 1,088 Experience...
1,088 xp applied to general...


I'll take it. Just doing daily CHR runs doesn't build up the XP very fast!

[thingirl]

What's your count up to, anyway.

[scout1idf]

What's your count up to, anyway.


Don't know, I'll check tonight.


Edit:
here you go...... (http://srythforum.com/showpost.php?p=8848&postcount=77)

[shadowblack]

There might be a bug with the rewards at the end of Tarn:
Hi, there haven't been any changes made to the Tarn rewards. I'll have to double
check on when the reward is set as I can't recall off the top of my head when it
happens, but there definitely haven't been any changes to the reward or how/when
it gets set.

gamemaster@sryth.com

-----
Hi

What\_s going on with the rewards for completing Tarn? I thought the reward was fixed when we first enter Tarn_ but I just had it change multiple times in the span of _1 hour:
512/128
384/64
768/192
768/192
384/64
384/64
512/128
I died
I died again
384/64
384/64 _ blue stone orb

In other words the reward changed at least FIVE times before I decided I\_ve had enough. Is this some sort of glitch_ or is it intentional?

[wetheril]

There might be a bug with the rewards at the end of Tarn:
Hi, there haven't been any changes made to the Tarn rewards. I'll have to double
check on when the reward is set as I can't recall off the top of my head when it
happens, but there definitely haven't been any changes to the reward or how/when
it gets set.

gamemaster@sryth.com

-----
Hi

What\_s going on with the rewards for completing Tarn? I thought the reward was fixed when we first enter Tarn_ but I just had it change multiple times in the span of _1 hour:
512/128
384/64
768/192
768/192
384/64
384/64
512/128
I died
I died again
384/64
384/64 _ blue stone orb

In other words the reward changed at least FIVE times before I decided I\_ve had enough. Is this some sort of glitch_ or is it intentional?

Just curious--at which point were you saving/quitting?

[shadowblack]

As in most cases, I had saved after clearing all 17 buildings and after using the Gear. So I had nothing to do on the upper level and just did the lower level each time.

[thingirl]

Did you do the same order for the colored Halgiroms each time? Did you heal in the mist? What power did you use for the fire? That's all I can think of.

[wetheril]

As in most cases, I had saved after clearing all 17 buildings and after using the Gear. So I had nothing to do on the upper level and just did the lower level each time.

I haven't tried saving/quitting after the implementation of the lower level, so this is news to me. Thanks for testing this out.

[shadowblack]

Did you do the same order for the colored Halgiroms each time? Did you heal in the mist? What power did you use for the fire? That's all I can think of.
1) Not always, I think
2) No, I almost never remember that I can heal in the mist
3) Shadow Magic. Most of the time it worked, though a few times it failed.

None of the above seem to matter. Usually I get the same end reward no matter how many times I quit without saving. So this was definitely an exception.

[thingirl]

I always do red first, then usually green, then silver. And I always heal in the mist once.

[shadowblack]

I usually do red-silver-green, but sometimes I miss the red one and so kill him last.

[thingirl]

I've missed the red one once or twice.

[racey]

It's been a while...

Your eyes suddenly spring open, at almost exactly the moment the sounds of the world once again rush in to fill your ears.

You're both startled and relieved to find yourself standing just outside the tall, crumbling arch through which you entered the ruined city.

You hear something rattling about amongst your possessions.

Well done, Trent! Your successful and complete exploration of the upper sections of Tarn, and the first of its lower levels, is a feat worthy of a master adventurer. You will soon be able to delve further into the lower reaches of the ruined city, where you will do battle with the Tarn-Hurn and his deadly minions...

XP +1,024 You've been awarded a total of 1,024 Experience...
1,024 xp applied to general...

XP +256 You've been awarded 256 Experience...
256 xp applied to All Skills and Powers...

XP +1,088 You've been awarded a total of 1,088 Experience...
1,088 xp applied to general...

Thankful to have explored the upper ruins (and the first of the lower levels) of Tarn and lived to tell about it, you take a few moments to check over your equipment and get your bearings before turning and setting off on your way.

[smv1973]

Nice reward to get after all the low rewards I had been getting.


You hear something rattling about amongst your possessions.


Well done, Thordon! Your successful and complete exploration of the upper sections of Tarn, and the first of its lower levels, is a feat worthy of a master adventurer. You will soon be able to delve further into the lower reaches of the ruined city, where you will do battle with the Tarn-Hurn and his deadly minions...


XP +1,024 You've been awarded a total of 1,024 Experience...
1,024 xp applied to general...


XP +256 You've been awarded 256 Experience...
256 xp applied to All Skills and Powers...


XP +1,088 You've been awarded a total of 1,088 Experience...
1,088 xp applied to general...


Thankful to have explored the upper ruins (and the first of the lower levels) of Tarn and lived to tell about it, you take a few moments to check over your equipment and get your bearings before turning and setting off on your way.

[spencer]

Does anyone else experience the "feast or famine" syndrome as far as the blue orbs go? I had not received an orb for many days and then I just got one on each of my last three runs...methinks there is tweakage from time to time to make it more possible to get them.

[Elrond]

Not tweakage; but randomness and streakiness. I notice that my rolls are on streaks all the time. When I'm hot, I'm hot. And when I'm not, I'm colder than the coldest day of winter in the North Pole!

[Oldschool]

Not tweakage; but randomness and streakiness. I notice that my rolls are on streaks all the time. When I'm hot, I'm hot. And when I'm not, I'm colder than the coldest day of winter in the North Pole!

In other words. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RKIQuiXVrQ)

If only Big John had an "s" at the end of his name. :cool:

[thingirl]

You're addicted to Youtube. ;) Off to wikipedia.

EDIT: Oh Olodshool. If I hadn't just repped you...

But I couldn't find any mention of "big john" that looked like it was related to music.

[Oldschool]

You're addicted to Youtube. ;) Off to wikipedia.

Hmmm, that sounds familiar. However, my youtube ratio is much much less on this forum..... for now. :rolleyes::cool:

EDIT:

In the opening line he refers to Big John Tally. If it had been Big John TallyS I would have solved the age old question of if Tallys is the first or last name of the quest giving merchant. :cool:

[wetheril]

In the opening line he refers to Big John Tally. If it had been Big John TallyS I would have solved the age old question of if Tallys is the first or last name of the quest giving merchant. :cool:

I had a good laugh at this. If I didn't have a big backlog of Reps waiting, I'd give you one for that. :D

[scout1idf]

Does anyone else experience the "feast or famine" syndrome as far as the blue orbs go? I had not received an orb for many days and then I just got one on each of my last three runs...methinks there is tweakage from time to time to make it more possible to get them.

Scout hasn't had a blue orb in the last 8-10 runs. I was beginning to think that they were removed. (just finished 2nd run in 24 hrs. still no orb)

[thingirl]

Same here. Last 3-5 runs and no orb. And mast of them have been 384/64 from the end...

[scout1idf]

Same here. Last 3-5 runs and no orb. And mast of them have been 384/64 from the end...
That's what I got on my last run. Almost not worth it if you aren't going to get an orb to compensate.

[spencer]

After my brief run of three in a row, I have found no orb on the last three, though the rewards have been at least 128/512.

[thingirl]

Maybe it will improve after complainning.

[spencer]

Maybe it will improve after complainning.

It did, I got an orb on my most recent run :D

[thingirl]

My Tarn luck- After complainning that I was getting the 64 spec. reward and no orb, I gor another 64 spec, but this time with an orb. The the next 2 were 128/24 (I think it was 128, but I know it was 24) At least I got orbs with them.

[Doolipalally]

My Tarn luck- After complainning that I was getting the 64 spec. reward and no orb, I gor another 64 spec, but this time with an orb. The the next 2 were 128/24 (I think it was 128, but I know it was 24) At least I got orbs with them.

24? Do you mean 64?

[thingirl]

Maybe it wasn't 24. Actually, it may have been 32. But I remeber seeing it and saying "NO WAY!!!!!!!!! I Haven't been getting the lowest reward with the 64s?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?"

[Doolipalally]

Did you clear all the buildings?

[thingirl]

Yes. It was then end reward "Well done... For your vallient efforts... 128(?) General, 32(?) AS&P, 1024 General."

[shadowblack]

You DID NOT clear all buildings. If you had you would've gotten 1088 general experience. Since you got just 1024 you obviously missed one building, and thus you got such a low reward.

[thingirl]

Well, I didn't actually copy the text. It was probably 1088. I just typed 1024 because rewards are usually powers of 2.

And I don't follow with "You didn't clear all 17 buildings, therefore you got the minimum reward at the end." I thought the end reward was random and independent from the set values of the building bonus.

[shadowblack]

I didn't say "minimum reward", I said "low" (the reward you got may noy be the lowest possible). Because that's how it is - there are some low rewards that you get ONLY if you miss one or more buildings. If you clear all 17 buildings the min reward is 384/64. And if get one of these low rewards (by missing a building), then quit without saving and clear the rest of the buildings, the end reward increases. In my case it increased to just 384/64 (yes, I'm speaking from personal exp).

[thingirl]

Hmm. Test time. I'm gonna only get the keys and kill the spider and not to lower Tarn. I'll copy the reward and then quit and do it properly.

[thingirl]

This is probably the lowest reward possible.

Your eyes suddenly spring open, at almost exactly the moment the sounds of the world once again rush in to fill your ears.

You're both startled and relieved to find yourself standing just outside the tall, crumbling arch through which you entered the ruined city.


Well done, Alanne! Your successful and complete exploration of the upper sections of Tarn, and the first of its lower levels, is a feat worthy of a master adventurer. You will soon be able to delve further into the lower reaches of the ruined city, where you will do battle with the Tarn-Hurn and his deadly minions...

XP +256 You've been awarded a total of 256 Experience...
256 xp applied to general...

XP +32 You've been awarded 32 Experience...
32 xp applied to All Skills and Powers...

Thankful to have explored the upper ruins (and the first of the lower levels) of Tarn and lived to tell about it, you take a few moments to check over your equipment and get your bearings before turning and setting off on your way.

* Please continue...

[shadowblack]

Initially, when Tarn was first introduced, there were lower rewards, but maybe (hopefully) they have been removed. 256/32 isn't bad at all, actually...

[thingirl]

Yes, I know. My first Tarn reward ever was 32/16/544 (I think). Still, I quit.

[texlaw1992]

Hello all, new forum member here (3 weeks playing Sryth).

Question: I've cleared the top level of Tarn five times in a row, including killing the demon my first time out. The Wiki indicates Tarn should change to a new level with a troll and access to the Tarn underground. My first level has not changed - using the gear just zaps me outside, and the level remains the same next time through (no troll, no underground). Any ideas?

Thanks for any help you can provide.

[shadowblack]

I guess you haven't met the assassin yet? The troll will show on the next run after you kill the assassin. However it is possible to complete the top level without meeeting him (especially if you don;t cleat all buildings).

[zmflavius]

It usually takes 8 to 10 runs (I think). He's a goblin.

[thingirl]

Yes. On the run you encounter the Goblin assassin, you will see him stalking you. Go and clear the buildings until he shows up. Then spin. Next time you're in Tarn, the troll (I would bring my Troll-Bont) will show up. Then I think it's the run after that (maybe that run) that lower Tarn shows us. Oh, and I think that you have to clear it 9 times.

And welcome.

[zmflavius]

Yes. On the run you encounter the Goblin assassin, you will see him stalking you. Go and clear the buildings until he shows up. Then spin. Next time you're in Tarn, the troll (I would bring my Troll-Bont) will show up. Then I think it's the run after that (maybe that run) that lower Tarn shows us. Oh, and I think that you have to clear it 9 times.

And welcome.

While on one hand, many adventurers will bring a troll-bont, picking a fight with that troll is a pain in the ass, and despite having good rewards, may have consequences in the near future.

[thingirl]

Good point. Then again, who knows when the ring will actually be put in?

[texlaw1992]

Thanks for the very useful information. Ok, back to Tarn we go!

[texlaw1992]

Got the goblin assassin the very next time in Tarn - no problems now.

Question - do you get anything for killing the giant snail in Tarn below? I encountered it without any Quickstone saves and so did not fight it. I've done everything else in lower Tarn.

[wetheril]

Got the goblin assassin the very next time in Tarn - no problems now.

Question - do you get anything for killing the giant snail in Tarn below? I encountered it without any Quickstone saves and so did not fight it. I've done everything else in lower Tarn.

Yes, you do. You get:

8 ATs + exp (don't recall a specific amount)
The snail is also a one-time encounter, meaning that if you defeat it, you won't be able to fight it a second time.

[thingirl]

Also You get a bone amulet fragment. This is useful in a later adventure (The Eye that Binds) and the other 3 shards can be found, randomly, on the stone slab.

[texlaw1992]

Thanks for the info on the snail. However, you can get all four amulet fragments without fighting him (I did). However, if you try to fight him and run away (as I did - no QS heals), then the bone fragment does not show up on the tablet on that run through Tarn. So, if you want the fragment on the slab each time, do not go after the snail until you have all 4 fragments.

[Elrond]

Thanks for the info on the snail. However, you can get all four amulet fragments without fighting him (I did). However, if you try to fight him and run away (as I did - no QS heals), then the bone fragment does not show up on the tablet on that run through Tarn. So, if you want the fragment on the slab each time, do not go after the snail until you have all 4 fragments.

Hmmm... Interesting bit of information. Thanks and Repped!

[shadowblack]

Initially the fragments were random. Are you saying now they show up there on every run until you have 4?

[scout1idf]

Thanks for the info on the snail. However, you can get all four amulet fragments without fighting him (I did). However, if you try to fight him and run away (as I did - no QS heals), then the bone fragment does not show up on the tablet on that run through Tarn. So, if you want the fragment on the slab each time, do not go after the snail until you have all 4 fragments.

Hmmm... Interesting bit of information. Thanks and Repped!

Initially the fragments were random. Are you saying now they show up there on every run until you have 4?

If so, it appears that the GM makes most if not all (random) things easier for those who wait. But who wants to wait? The only drawback is the loss of XP and gold gained doing excessive runs early on.....

[wetheril]

If so, it appears that the GM makes most if not all (random) things easier for those who wait. But who wants to wait? The only drawback is the loss of XP and gold gained doing excessive runs early on.....

This seems to hold true for Clairvoyance (one of my secondaries). She found all 3 of the empty heavy bags in Fogbough Outer Woods very easily. In fact, in just 3 crypt encounters, she fought a different undead spirit, and each one dropped a bag.

...on the other hand, she's having trouble encountering the moth.

[spencer]

This seems to hold true for Clairvoyance (one of my secondaries). She found all 3 of the empty heavy bags in Fogbough Outer Woods very easily. In fact, in just 3 crypt encounters, she fought a different undead spirit, and each one dropped a bag.

...on the other hand, she's having trouble encountering the moth.


Has she checked to see if her light source is good? :D

[thingirl]

*Sigh* That is horrible. (So why am I still laughing?)

[wetheril]

Has she checked to see if her light source is good? :D

hehe...thanks for the laugh. :D

[scout1idf]

Your eyes suddenly spring open, at almost exactly the moment the sounds of the world once again rush in to fill your ears.

You're both startled and relieved to find yourself standing just outside the tall, crumbling arch through which you entered the ruined city.


Well done, SCOUT! Your successful and complete exploration of the upper sections of Tarn, and the first of its lower levels, is a feat worthy of a master adventurer. You will soon be able to delve further into the lower reaches of the ruined city, where you will do battle with the Tarn-Hurn and his deadly minions...

XP +768 You've been awarded a total of 768 Experience...
768 xp applied to general...

XP +192 You've been awarded 192 Experience...
192 xp applied to All Skills and Powers...

XP +1,088 You've been awarded a total of 1,088 Experience...
1,088 xp applied to general...

Thankful to have explored the upper ruins (and the first of the lower levels) of Tarn and lived to tell about it, you take a few moments to check over your equipment and get your bearings before turning and setting off on your way.

* Please continue...


Still no orb!! I think I'll give up on ever getting one again.....

[Elrond]

Dang! I've gotten 3 straight 384-64 rewards from Tarn! It is bad enough that I average less than 1 run daily. Now, my reward streak is "snake eyes!"

[wetheril]

After a streak of unimpressive luck the last few weeks, it's good to start the day with some great luck!

You hear something rattling about amongst your possessions.


Well done, Altaria! Your successful and complete exploration of the upper sections of Tarn, and the first of its lower levels, is a feat worthy of a master adventurer. You will soon be able to delve further into the lower reaches of the ruined city, where you will do battle with the Tarn-Hurn and his deadly minions...

XP +768 You've been awarded a total of 768 Experience...
768 xp applied to general...

XP +192 You've been awarded 192 Experience...
192 xp applied to All Skills and Powers...

XP +1,088 You've been awarded a total of 1,088 Experience...
1,088 xp applied to general...

It's the second time I got this reward TODAY. :)

[racey]

Been a while...

You hear something rattling about amongst your possessions.

Well done, Trent! Your successful and complete exploration of the upper sections of Tarn, and the first of its lower levels, is a feat worthy of a master adventurer. You will soon be able to delve further into the lower reaches of the ruined city, where you will do battle with the Tarn-Hurn and his deadly minions...

XP +1,024 You've been awarded a total of 1,024 Experience...
1,024 xp applied to general...

XP +256 You've been awarded 256 Experience...
256 xp applied to All Skills and Powers...

XP +1,088 You've been awarded a total of 1,088 Experience...
1,088 xp applied to general...

Thankful to have explored the upper ruins (and the first of the lower levels) of Tarn and lived to tell about it, you take a few moments to check over your equipment and get your bearings before turning and setting off on your way.

[scout1idf]

Your eyes suddenly spring open, at almost exactly the moment the sounds of the world once again rush in to fill your ears.

You're both startled and relieved to find yourself standing just outside the tall, crumbling arch through which you entered the ruined city.

You hear something rattling about amongst your possessions.


Well done, SCOUT! Your successful and complete exploration of the upper sections of Tarn, and the first of its lower levels, is a feat worthy of a master adventurer. You will soon be able to delve further into the lower reaches of the ruined city, where you will do battle with the Tarn-Hurn and his deadly minions...

XP +512 You've been awarded a total of 512 Experience...
512 xp applied to general...

XP +128 You've been awarded 128 Experience...
128 xp applied to All Skills and Powers...

XP +1,088 You've been awarded a total of 1,088 Experience...
1,088 xp applied to general...

Thankful to have explored the upper ruins (and the first of the lower levels) of Tarn and lived to tell about it, you take a few moments to check over your equipment and get your bearings before turning and setting off on your way.

* Please continue...

My first one in months!!!!!

[shadowblack]

Your eyes suddenly spring open, at almost exactly the moment the sounds of the world once again rush in to fill your ears.

You're both startled and relieved to find yourself standing just outside the tall, crumbling arch through which you entered the ruined city.

You hear something rattling about amongst your possessions.


Well done, Shadowblack! Your successful and complete exploration of the upper sections of Tarn, and the first of its lower levels, is a feat worthy of a master adventurer. You will soon be able to delve further into the lower reaches of the ruined city, where you will do battle with the Tarn-Hurn and his deadly minions...

XP +1,024 You've been awarded a total of 1,024 Experience...
1,024 xp applied to general...

XP +256 You've been awarded 256 Experience...
256 xp applied to All Skills and Powers...

XP +1,088 You've been awarded a total of 1,088 Experience...
1,088 xp applied to general...

Thankful to have explored the upper ruins (and the first of the lower levels) of Tarn and lived to tell about it, you take a few moments to check over your equipment and get your bearings before turning and setting off on your way.

It's been a long time...